Biggest anti-climax in my lifetime

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

Grand Mal said:

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

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So you say it is the biggest anti-climax of your lifetime, what did you expect? Pot clouds the size of Mount Saint Helen's volcano explosion rising from Canada?

Praxas said:

So you say it is the biggest anti-climax of your lifetime, what did you expect? Pot clouds the size of Mount Saint Helen's volcano explosion rising from Canada?

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Long lines from what I see on TV reports, large shortages, which will run a year or longer, shortages that is

Grand Mal said:

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

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The key to a really good climax is patience. Just give it a little time and you'll see your maple leaf replaced with a different leaf...and Oh Canada will close with "Oh Canada, we smoke a joint for thee".

Perhaps the reason why you feel its an anti-climax is because you had too much bong when you heard the news? :2razz:

Praxas said:

So you say it is the biggest anti-climax of your lifetime, what did you expect? Pot clouds the size of Mount Saint Helen's volcano explosion rising from Canada?

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Keep your snark to yourself.
It's an anticlimax because it's been talked about for weeks as if it's a sea-change in Canadian society. Today the radio and TV news and talk shows are all about the change in pot laws but, as I said in my OP, nothing much will change.

Grand Mal said:

Keep your snark to yourself.
It's an anticlimax because it's been talked about for weeks as if it's a sea-change in Canadian society. Today the radio and TV news and talk shows are all about the change in pot laws but, as I said in my OP, nothing much will change.

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No snark at all, I just asked what did YOU expect? Pot was legalized here in Nevada and besides dispensaries having some lines out in front of them for like the first couple of days, there was nothing really different. This is why I think the anti-drug folks are hilarious, they expect the world to end if a drug is legalized.

The key to a solid climax is foreplay. Lots of it. The longer you can hold off from doing the deed itself, the greater the climax

Lutherf said:

The key to a really good climax is patience.

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That's generally a female point of view

JANFU said:

Long lines from what I see on TV reports, large shortages, which will run a year or longer, shortages that is

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They were lined up here, too, but my guess is it was the novelty that brought them out. I don't see why there should be shortages- I doubt more than a couple people who didn't use before will try it now and the supply shouldn't be less. If legal outlets get too inconvenient or expensive or don't offer the best strains people will just call up the guy they've dealt with for years.

Grand Mal said:

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

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I went through this legalization stuff here in Colorado some years ago and yeah...for most people it really wasn't that big a deal.

Pot stores have sprung up. They are heavily regulated and heavily taxed. I don't know how it is now, but early on the retailers had problems with banking services. This stemmed from the fact that pot is still legal from the federal perspective. The banks didn't want to risk liability by providing bank accounts, card services, electronic transfers, etc. The stores even had to pay their employees with cash.

I commend the Canadian government for taking this step. I wish my own US government would do likewise. I still think States should decide for themselves if they want to legalize pot, but the federal government should keep their nose out of the issue.

Grand Mal said:

They were lined up here, too, but my guess is it was the novelty that brought them out. I don't see why there should be shortages- I doubt more than a couple people who didn't use before will try it now and the supply shouldn't be less. If legal outlets get too inconvenient or expensive or don't offer the best strains people will just call up the guy they've dealt with for years.

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Ran into a guy, works for one of producers. Consider time to grow, many wanting to purchase legal vice illegal, due to some contaminate their illegal products, there will be shortages due to this. Then there are the varieties they sell, which ones sell better than others, that adds to lag times as producers switch for future sales.
In all probability about 2 years before they get the market right with enough supply of varities

Lutherf said:

The key to a really good climax is patience. Just give it a little time and you'll see your maple leaf replaced with a different leaf...and Oh Canada will close with "Oh Canada, we smoke a joint for thee".

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Hahahaha I have to borrow that! hahahaha

JANFU said:

Ran into a guy, works for one of producers. Consider time to grow, many wanting to purchase legal vice illegal, due to some contaminate their illegal products, there will be shortages due to this. Then there are the varieties they sell, which ones sell better than others, that adds to lag times as producers switch for future sales.
In all probability about 2 years before they get the market right with enough supply of varities

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Oops-A-Daisy!

Lutherf said:

The key to a really good climax is patience. Just give it a little time and you'll see your maple leaf replaced with a different leaf...and Oh Canada will close with "Oh Canada, we smoke a joint for thee".

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That may well be but I'm not the boy for just one night. :2razz:

oh it's about pot.... I read that "biggest climax of my life" carry on

So my thoughts on this are as follows...

I think it's a good thing we've done it, about time, the old regime did nothing.
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I feel like the extremely restrictive approach by some provinces and municipalities regarding consumption negates a lot of the idea of easing work load for police and the legal system in terms of prosecutions for drug possession etc.

I feel due to this approach, the amount of lawsuits that will be filed in the first few years due to fines, evictions from rental units due to consumption etc. could very well be significant, not enough to compare to the old regime but significant enough that it makes all of this posturing by the provinces pretty silly, once you open this pandoras box, to try to stuff it back in, at first glance it's not as obvious as Alcohol, which fair play, you also can't consume publicly, but how is a cop or bylaw officer at a glance gonna spot someone strolling down the street smoking a prerolled unless they're on foot and can smell it?

Simple answer is they can't and you can bet your swollen asshole these guys will find some way to make this **** odorless.

On top of that you've set the number, fine, so you can have 30 grams, welllll what if the guys got 31, you can grow four plants wellllllll what if the guys growing 5... You really gonna try and prosecute or fine at that point?

Anyway, I may be thinking about this too much but we'll see how these nuances get worked out over the next few years because for some provinces and municipalities again, they've been given broad authority to stop all public consumption and private renters have been given broad authority to stop any consumption in or around their private property, so where's anyone meant to consume in some places and is that really in the spirit of the law?

I mean Halifax recently banned smoking of any kind in public but didn't set up ANY smoking zones in all of downtown Halifax as an example so people just smoked anyway and Police did nothing, is such an ordinance worth ANYONES time or a cities or polices resources to enforce, it's ridiculous.

So anyway, that particular rant is over, we'll see what happens.
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We'll see how the rest of it goes, as it stands Retail is off to a pretty slow start in most of the country, there is nothing within 100 miles of where I live so we'll see if that picks up in the coming months.

Grand Mal said:

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

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In California what has happend according to my friends in the Sheriff's department, is that stoners are still stoning, and lots of middle class new people bought from dispensaries, but the general expected increase in users has leveled off. Many are expected to go back to whatever floated their boat before, or they are very light weekend users. It further complicated by the lack of public awareness of who is toking and who isn't.

The Sheriff's story is that the legal purchasers are drifting to illegal sellers due to lower prices, with the side effect of an up tick in other illegal drugs sold along with the weed.

So time will tell. There are no real valid statistics to really decide where market is going right now.

Bottom line: Cartel weed is selling better and they are selling more (mostly) soft drugs to their new customers, and legal weed is: crippled by high prices due to taxes and supply problems, but benefited by the ability to have a variety of known potencies and effects. I.E. Do you want to be couch locked or have giggle fits? There is weed for that.

HERA the Stars said:

oh it's about pot.... I read that "biggest climax of my life" carry on

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:lamo
Now THAT'S funny!
Thank you Hera.

Piece of advise for those of you who partake...DO NOT use your cards or the mail to buy.
If you think the American INS will not get and use those records, you're fooling yourself.

Grand Mal said:

Canada legalized pot today. Well, drastically changed the regulations, anyway. Lots of the specific rules re. distribution vary from province to province but basically you can have 30 grams (28g=1oz.) on your person, a kilogram (2.2 lb.) in your home and four plants growing (but they can't be seen from the street). I don't think anyone, police included, is going to bother with those rules. Here in BC there's lots of medical dispensaries that are supposed to close and get a different permit but most probably won't. There's lots of online sources including a government outlet that I understand charges too much.
Nothing much will change, except more people might be toking in public where smoking is allowed.

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This is a good thing, brother. And predictable for anyone not caught up in the "Reefer Madness" mindset.

The memes have been good, though....hehe...

chuckiechan said:

In California what has happend according to my friends in the Sheriff's department, is that stoners are still stoning, and lots of middle class new people bought from dispensaries, but the general expected increase in users has leveled off. Many are expected to go back to whatever floated their boat before, or they are very light weekend users. It further complicated by the lack of public awareness of who is toking and who isn't.

The Sheriff's story is that the legal purchasers are drifting to illegal sellers due to lower prices, with the side effect of an up tick in other illegal drugs sold along with the weed.

So time will tell. There are no real valid statistics to really decide where market is going right now.

Bottom line: Cartel weed is selling better and they are selling more (mostly) soft drugs to their new customers, and legal weed is: crippled by high prices due to taxes and supply problems, but benefited by the ability to have a variety of known potencies and effects. I.E. Do you want to be couch locked or have giggle fits? There is weed for that.

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They've got no one to blame but themselves. Charging prohibition prices in a non-prohibition environment is just stupid.

Regardless, it's still better than it was. During prohibition, your only option is the black market. Now some folks will buy it from the legal shops, and enjoy the things you mention, but also have the protection of not buying from the black market. Better than it was, even marginally, is still success. But prices aimed at making it unprofitable for the black market to be involved would be a much more successful decision.

OlNate said:

They've got no one to blame but themselves. Charging prohibition prices in a non-prohibition environment is just stupid.

Regardless, it's still better than it was. During prohibition, your only option is the black market. Now some folks will buy it from the legal shops, and enjoy the things you mention, but also have the protection of not buying from the black market. Better than it was, even marginally, is still success. But prices aimed at making it unprofitable for the black market to be involved would be a much more successful decision.

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I agree with you Nate, which is why I have no plans to quit visiting my 80-something year old "black market" dealer.
This elder person inherited this from her husband, who passed several years ago. It nicely supplements her retirement income, and I bring the nice lady cakes and sweets from the local bakery every time I visit. PLUS, I know what I'm getting and that its not "dusted" with something stupid. Here in Ontario The Good, people now can only buy online. Lord it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy "goodies" online.

Buzz62 said:

I agree with you Nate, which is why I have no plans to quit visiting my 80-something year old "black market" dealer.
This elder person inherited this from her husband, who passed several years ago. It nicely supplements her retirement income, and I bring the nice lady cakes and sweets from the local bakery every time I visit. PLUS, I know what I'm getting and that its not "dusted" with something stupid. Here in Ontario The Good, people now can only buy online. Lord it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy "goodies" online.

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If you want to make the drive out to the East end, some of the Native reservations are selling it. While some of the dispensaries are a little shady, The Medicine Wheel, in Roseneath, is top shelf - gorgeous building, professional staff, on site lab, single source farm and production, with a couple dozen strains, full range of "goodies". Just go north from the 401 on highway 45 (Cobourg) for about 25 minutes, you can't miss it. Last time I was in, I was the youngest person there, with a group of seniors having just arrived.

It's a gorgeous drive, and a fantastic spot to buy your product...and no harassment of any kind. Much better than buying online, IMO.

Legalization was an anti-climax indeed vis a vis stock prices for weed companies, but I've no doubt that the industry will be big business 5 years in, particularly as liberalization continues in the EU and if/when Trump is replaced with someone more reasonable and amenable to stateside weed legalization and commerce, including with international entities/investors, which is when things will get really exciting. Canada's market is on the whole small potatoes, and our internationally oriented MJ firms will be making serious dollero upon expansion to and consolidation in lucrative, vast foreign markets like Germany, California, and so on.

Overall I'm very much looking forward to making another 5x+ on my marijuana investments.

Surrealistik said:

Legalization was an anti-climax indeed vis a vis stock prices for weed companies, but I've no doubt that the industry will be big business 5 years in.

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Lack of supply and the lack of retail options are all that are holding things back at this time.

Once those two things are stabilized we'll be on a roll.