Wynne's deplorable divisive comment

If you're a senior person, and if you're white - beware. Wynne has demonized you, to spread fear among Ontarians!

“If you don’t vote, then somebody who looks like me is going to vote, some senior person, older than me, some white person.”

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AGAR: Wynne demonizes old, white voters in grasp for votes | Toronto Sun



Take note: it's a blanket statement for all whites and senior folks.



I suppose she thinks it's okay for her to make a blatantly divisive, deplorable comment!
She thinks she's above everyone else - and not held to the same standard as the rest of us!



If you're white....and if you're a senior......

........and if you're any age......

.....and, of any color........

........and, if you're anyone who truly are against hypocritical politicians who has no qualms of sowing blatant divisiveness in a ruthless bid for power......

....and if you truly value fairness and equality.......


............make sure you let her know your response to that! Let's all unite on this.



Don't vote for her!

Huh. It isn't just my imagination when I wondered how come I didn't see this reported on CBC or CTV.....

Much of the elitist establishment media appears to be doing everything to avoid word spreading about Wynne’s comments, a point made in a great report by Brian Lilley:

“When Wynne said these comments the room was filled with reporters, cameras, phones with recording apps on them and yet there hasn’t been much coverage of this. That’s shameful but it is also telling that in the coming election most of the media can be expected to look the other way at Wynne’s mistakes.”

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https://www.spencerfernando.com/201...-counteract-votes-senior-person-white-person/


Why so quiet about this?

She has a point younger people need to vote more, it is the old white boomers who have no qualms about throwing the younger generation under the bus for their personal benefit.

Carjosse said:

She has a point younger people need to vote more, it is the old white boomers who have no qualms about throwing the younger generation under the bus for their personal benefit.

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Oh quit the ageist rhetoric, it’s not like Millenials have been overwhelmingly in support of neoliberal economics, at least economically young people want more of the policies shafting them, note overwhelming support for crazy Bernie

tosca1 said:

Huh. It isn't just my imagination when I wondered how come I didn't see this reported on CBC or CTV.....



https://www.spencerfernando.com/201...-counteract-votes-senior-person-white-person/


Why so quiet about this?

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Probably because the Sun is Canada's answer to Fox News, and simply given the source I'm taking this with a HUGE grain of salt. I'll check it out when I get home, but I expect I'll find different papers interpreted this very differently, based on the context they decided to take this in.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me, as Wynne has demonstrated as special level of arrogance and lack of class so many times before, and the fact that we are facing a populist nightmare in this province right now with that asshole Doug Ford rests as much on Wynne's shoulders as anyone else's if not more, in the same way that only someone as horrible as HRC could make DJT look like a good decision.

I agree with you, Tos, she's a donut. But, if all she was saying that younger people should vote, I agree with her...but as usual, a bit of class would have gone a long way towards softening this. It would appear she's trying to go the populist route, but to the left instead of the right...and Kathleen Wynn appealing to populists is like Steve Buscemi trying to be a sex symbol.

OlNate said:

Probably because the Sun is Canada's answer to Fox News, and simply given the source I'm taking this with a HUGE grain of salt. I'll check it out when I get home, but I expect I'll find different papers interpreted this very differently, based on the context they decided to take this in.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me, as Wynne has demonstrated as special level of arrogance and lack of class so many times before, and the fact that we are facing a populist nightmare in this province right now with that asshole Doug Ford rests as much on Wynne's shoulders as anyone else's if not more, in the same way that only someone as horrible as HRC could make DJT look like a good decision.

I agree with you, Tos, she's a donut. But, if all she was saying that younger people should vote, I agree with her...but as usual, a bit of class would have gone a long way towards softening this. It would appear she's trying to go the populist route, but to the left instead of the right...and Kathleen Wynn appealing to populists is like Steve Buscemi trying to be a sex symbol.

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Here's the podcast:

https://soundcloud.com/brianlilley



No. She's trying to scare young voters with white and old folks. That's very clear.

Even if it's true that young voters come out in few numbers - to suggest that there aren't any old and white folks who share the same vision as others (like young folks, or people of other colors), and vice versa, clearly divides.

Aren't there any young voters who are conservatives? Or any old folks who are liberal-minded?
As an example, I know that some young voters are worried about unemployment. She thinks there aren't any old folks (just because they're retired) who aren't concerned about unemployment and how this will also impact them (and their children and grandchildren)? Just because they're old (and just collecting pension).....they are "out of it??"



What's color got to do with it when we're talking about the same worries that any person would be worrying about?

THE ECONOMY! Is it only white people who worry about that? Is it only white people who will cast their vote with the economy uppermost in their minds?

What about healthcare? Are white people the only ones who has healthcare as a priority in their decision??? Blacks, Latinos, Arabs.....they don't care about that?



Worrying about the deficit? Only white folks are smart enough to know that this humonguous deficit will be bad for all Ontarians? Everyone else (all non-whites), are naive enough to not get concerned about it?


Is that what she's saying? YES!


Why do you think she's gunning for old, and white folks? Because she thinks she can fool the rest - but not these two particular demographics!


If that's how she views ALL OLD and WHITE folks (lumping them all together in such a way)......then, she's not only doing dirty divisive tactics, but she's also narrow-minded!


The only ones who'd be worrying about what white folks would be voting for, will be those who have angst and racist views about white people!

Wynne is trying to make this about race - because that's the group she's trying to stoke.

tosca1 said:

Here's the podcast:

https://soundcloud.com/brianlilley


No. She's ytuing to scare young voters with white and old folks. That's very clear.

Even if it's true that young voters come out in few numbers - to suggest that there aren't any old and white folks who share the same vision as others (like young folks, or people of other colors), and vice versa, clearly divides.

Aren't there any young voters who are conservatives? Or any old folks who are liberal-minded?
If that's how she views ALL OLD and WHITE folks (lumping them all together in such a way)......then, she's not only doing dirty divisive tactics, but she's also narrow-minded!

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I will agree with you to the death on this one, Tos... As I said, I think she's trying to use left wing populism to combat right wing populism. Ontario is in for a **** show, I've got no idea who to vote for. I would have voted for Elliot, but dumbass knuckle draggers paid their 10 bucks and voted in the most divisive populist that Canada has ever seen. So, I won't be voting for him either. And, I hate Wynne... And everyone else is a throw away vote.

Might just stay home and get drunk instead.

OlNate said:

I will agree with you to the death on this one, Tos... As I said, I think she's trying to use left wing populism to combat right wing populism. Ontario is in for a **** show, I've got no idea who to vote for. I would have voted for Elliot, but dumbass knuckle draggers paid their 10 bucks and voted in the most divisive populist that Canada has ever seen. So, I won't be voting for him either. And, I hate Wynne... And everyone else is a throw away vote.

Might just stay home and get drunk instead.

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I hope you'd reconsider.

I'd rather take the chance with Ford - after all, with the kind of slump we're in - what else is there
to lose? From what pundits are saying, he's heavily supported by black folks - so he can't be that divisive.

Might as well see what he can do.

Last act of desperation. She'll be voted out in June

Carjosse said:

She has a point younger people need to vote more, it is the old white boomers who have no qualms about throwing the younger generation under the bus for their personal benefit.

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I'm curious......what particular personal benefit is that?


I suppose, old folks are all self-centered bastards who have no qualms throwing their own CHILDREN
and their GRANDCHILDREN under the bus.....for their own personal benefits!


I suppose these self-centered old bastards are just too mean having their grown-up kids still living at home....because these kids can't find any good-paying full-time employment to make it possible for them to live on their own!

tosca1 said:

I hope you'd reconsider.

I'd rather take the chance with Ford - after all, with the kind of slump we're in - what else is there
to lose? From what pundits are saying, he's heavily supported by black folks - so he can't be that divisive.

Might as well see what he can do.

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Nah, I can't... I lived in the GTA when all that stuff went down with his brother, I saw how he was as a city councilor, and I was a big CRFB 1010 listener, and heard them cackle away like a pair of school yard bullies on their program on that station... He's not a good guy, and what he will do is pretty predictable. Elliot would have been a better choice, especially for bringing on the fence liberals, sick of Wynne, over.

Anyway...doesn't matter much what I do. I don't live in the GTA anymore, and they are who always picks our premier for us, so...I could vote for Alec from Beach Combers, and it would have as much impact.

I think you're gonna get your wish no matter what...I just think we're going to be worse off with division, and that's all this man really brings to the table. He's not a policy genius, he's not a good leader, he's the ugly face of populism, and that's why he's there. To win an election. After that, I'm sure he will be handled...hopefully his handlers have better luck with him than Trump's have...

Stereotyping much?

It's a choice between bad and worse as politicos go; I think Wynne has no business leading Ontario, but Doug has even less.

As ever, I'll stick with bad over the guy whose policy amounts to reinflating the Toronto real estate bubble and tax cuts without the means of paying for them as he vaguely and ominously goes on about finding 'efficiencies' which could mean slashing just about anything or nothing, but if the NDP somehow manage to have a real shot at winning this, my vote is definitely with them.

tosca1 said:

I hope you'd reconsider.

I'd rather take the chance with Ford - after all, with the kind of slump we're in - what else is there
to lose? From what pundits are saying, he's heavily supported by black folks - so he can't be that divisive.

Might as well see what he can do.

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Doug Ford enabled his brother's worst habits when was mayor of TO. I would not trust him.

I would rather vote for the NDP then either Wynne or Ford.

Her supporters try to downplay her message. I wonder how it'll be if we re-phrase her words like this:


“If you don’t vote, then somebody like Muslims are going to vote, some black people.”



Surely, there are ways to encourage without singling out any particular group(s). Obviously, she's tapping into the negative sentiments against white people.


Bottom line: you don't stoke the embers of a race war! Period.


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Young voters turned up in unprecedented numbers in the 2015 Federal election.....so Wynne can't say that they aren't engaged.


Did it ever occur to her that she could be the main reason why youth voters turn-out is low in Ontario?


I mean.....

They most likely feel the burden of this GIGANTIC DEFICIT falling on their shoulders to carry for a very, very, very long time! They see the big burden of shouldering her spendings falling right smack on their generation - and beyond!

With no good employment, to boot! They've lost hope!

Who wouldn't be depressed by all that? And she's not done with her shopping yet! :lol:

Wynne's right about one old, white politician who needs to go!


Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, the queen of wedge-driven Liberal Party politics, wants you to hate me, and everything about me.


She talks about the importance of young people getting out to vote, but says it with a venom-edged racist message that epitomizes all that is wrong today with the party she leads.



She talks inclusiveness, and spews divisiveness.

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BONOKOSKI: Wynne’s right about one old, white politician who needs to go! | Toronto Sun





Young people, look closely at Kathleen Wynne -


Wynne earned her Teddy Award | Cornwall Standard Freeholder




She's white, and she's old.......



Boot this old, white hag out!

Pray for a hung parliament and a minority government to constrain and discipline whomever wins the next provincial election. Then Wynne will be replaced by what is hopefully a better candidate and perhaps Ford will go as well. If Ford survives then elect a the new liberal government with in a new minority government and repeat until both parties change their stripes and begin behaving responsibly.

Cheers and good luck.
Evilroddy.

Carjosse said:

She has a point younger people need to vote more, it is the old white boomers who have no qualms about throwing the younger generation under the bus for their personal benefit.

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OMG...

Ya know...a Liberal leader sticks her foot in her mouth, and you wanna deflect to the parents of these 'younger people'?
I think that its Liberal minds who concoct all this divisive horse kaka in an effort to excuse their overwhelming sense of superiority and righteousness.
The Politically Correct movement is out of control. Surprise surprise...

Surrealistik said:

It's a choice between bad and worse as politicos go; I think Wynne has no business leading Ontario, but Doug has even less.

As ever, I'll stick with bad over the guy whose policy amounts to reinflating the Toronto real estate bubble and tax cuts without the means of paying for them as he vaguely and ominously goes on about finding 'efficiencies' which could mean slashing just about anything or nothing, but if the NDP somehow manage to have a real shot at winning this, my vote is definitely with them.

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As a property owner in T.O. I hope he does reinflate the real estate bubble.

Buzz62 said:

OMG...

Ya know...a Liberal leader sticks her foot in her mouth, and you wanna deflect to the parents of these 'younger people'?
I think that its Liberal minds who concoct all this divisive horse kaka in an effort to excuse their overwhelming sense of superiority and righteousness.
The Politically Correct movement is out of control. Surprise surprise...

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Isn't this protest thread even on here because Wynne wasn't politically correct about how she referred to old people, with the complaint coming from the conservatives? Or is it only political correctness when that level of respect is asked to be shown to people who aren't old white people...

Sorry, I hate Wynne, but if I see a logic hole, I like to jump through giggling, especially if it's with friends.

OlNate said:

Isn't this protest thread even on here because Wynne wasn't politically correct about how she referred to old people, with the complaint coming from the conservatives? Or is it only political correctness when that level of respect is asked to be shown to people who aren't old white people...

Sorry, I hate Wynne, but if I see a logic hole, I like to jump through giggling, especially if it's with friends.

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Actually, no....the reason for my thread isn't because she referred to old and white folks in an "unpolitically-correct" way.

It's because her comment isn't true (the important issues are shared by people regardless of age or color).....

Vote Compass users put priority on economic issues in Ontario election
Health care, accountability also rate highly as important election issues

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Vote Compass users put priority on economic issues in Ontario election - Ontario Votes 2014 - CBC



........and most importantly, she's stoking the anger and angst against white folks.

tosca1 said:

Actually, no....the reason for my thread isn't because she referred to old and white folks in an "unpolitically-correct" way.

It's because her comment isn't true (the important issues that are important are shared by people regardless of age or color).....
........and most importantly, she's stoking the anger and angst against white folks.

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lol...mmm-hmmm... It's ok, Tos, you know I hate her too, but in this case you might be unduly concerned. It's not all white people, just old white people, and lots of people are pissed at them already.

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lol...mmm-hmmm... It's ok, Tos, you know I hate her too, but in this case you might be unduly concerned.

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Well, no it's not okay. I'm explaining the point of my OP. It's not as you claimed it to be.

It's not all white people, just old white people, and lots of people are pissed at them already.

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If that's the case......all the more reason why her comment is hateful!
Why would it be okay to add gasoline to fire?

If "a lot of people hate old white people," you're saying it's okay for a leader to declare "open season" on them?

Old white people can be brutalized in nursing homes (where many workers are non-whites), or can be disrespected on the street? That's okay, after all.....as you claim, "many hate them already?"

That's what I'm getting from your comment.

OlNate said:

Isn't this protest thread even on here because Wynne wasn't politically correct about how she referred to old people, with the complaint coming from the conservatives? Or is it only political correctness when that level of respect is asked to be shown to people who aren't old white people...

Sorry, I hate Wynne, but if I see a logic hole, I like to jump through giggling, especially if it's with friends.

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lol...touche.

No I'm just mussing that the PC movement seems to advocate for inclusion and acceptance...except when it doesn't suit them...or Wynne...
There's allot of howling about how the nationalists are this and the nationalists are that...but look at the physical evidence. It appears its these very people who feel justified in being violent and bigoted.

tosca1 said:

Well, no it's not okay. I'm explaining the point of my OP. It's not as you claimed it to be.






If that's the case......all the more reason why her comment is hateful!
Why would it be okay to add gasoline to fire?

If "a lot of people hate old white people," you're saying it's okay for a leader to declare "open season" on them?

Old white people can be brutalized in nursing homes (where many workers are non-whites), or can be disrespected on the street? That's okay, after all.....as you claim, "many hate them already?"

That's what I'm getting from your comment.

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Tosca, Tosca, you and I have been doing so good, don't get all up in my shorts now!

First of all, I said many are pissed at them, not hate them. So, if you're gonna rage on me, at least quote me correctly. Go ahead, have a quick look.

Second of all...no to everything you added to my statement. Like, all of it. I mean, saying someone is pissed at someone else doesn't even technically imply that they deserve it (that's a whole other debate), let alone all that other stuff you imagination lead you to believe I was saying. I love old people - you wanna find Conservatives without their head up their ass, you'll find the greatest concentration of them in the 65+ crowd. My grandmother is 90, is a life long white, Christian conservative, and there is no one in the whole world I'd rather talk politics with. (She cried when they announced Doug Ford was leading the Ontario PC's, by the way....this will be the first time in her life that she plans not to vote. Just an aside, pertaining to other conversations you and I have been having.)

So, no, to all that stuff you made up, and seriously, really? I guess we've gotta spend more time together, if that's how you think I think.

Anyway, I already said I think Wynne is an idiot...don't get all bent and twisted over my sparring with Buzz, it's kind of our thing sometimes.