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Duterte tells Trudeau- "Lay off!"

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/trudeau-plays-trump-foil-citing-killings-hu

Trudeau brings up human rights in the Philippines and Duterte calls it a 'personal and official insult'. This is a few days after Trudeau torpedoed Canada's participation in TPP over child labour and human rights issues.
I like it. One of the few things I liked about Harper was him saying to Putin, "I'll shake your hand but you need to get out of Ukraine."
It's called integrity.
 
Dutarte is handling the problems in The Phillipines the way Filipinos want. Western business interests turned the country into a haven for drug dealers and prostitutes and the money flowing in from those illicit activities was being used to fund terrorism. It's wonderful to watch ignorant feel good lefties whine about problems they know nothing about.
 
reinoe said:
Dutarte is handling the problems in The Phillipines the way Filipinos want. Western business interests turned the country into a haven for drug dealers and prostitutes and the money flowing in from those illicit activities was being used to fund terrorism. It's wonderful to watch ignorant feel good lefties whine about problems they know nothing about.
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Thanks for the info, self-appointed DP delegate to the Philippines!

Duterte isn’t in a position to tell Justin Trudeau DICK.
 
reinoe said:
Dutarte is handling the problems in The Phillipines the way Filipinos want. Western business interests turned the country into a haven for drug dealers and prostitutes and the money flowing in from those illicit activities was being used to fund terrorism. It's wonderful to watch ignorant feel good lefties whine about problems they know nothing about.
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Do the parents of murdered children want it handled that way? Do the innocents gunned down in the street want it that way? Duterte is a thug, and is no better than the drug dealers.
 
spud_meister said:
Do the parents of murdered children want it handled that way? Do the innocents gunned down in the street want it that way? Duterte is a thug, and is no better than the drug dealers.
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The people of the Philippines give him a 80% approval rating, so they must like something about the guy. Kids in drug gangs have been killing other kids for quite a while, and the people are tired of living around it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hit-off-hint-both-presidents-brash/858527001/
 
PoS said:
Most voters in that country are pretty uneducated, which is why he won the election.
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Kinda reminds ya of somewhere.......hmm?
 
If Duterte had called Obama, an SOB - I think Justin got off lightly when he's not even named by a ranting Duterte.

In Asian countries like the Philippines, anti-colonial mentality is predominant.

Furthermore......no leader appreciates being lectured, especially by a guest to his country.

Trudeau went to Asia for the purpose of trade - it's not the time to wag a finger, or to be condescending as to suggest something like "Canada could help Duterte get on the right track." Right.
Like legalizing drugs, and going in the drug business yourself? :lol:
Anyway, I digress.


Practically all Asian countries have human rights issues......so, the rant of Duterte about "a foreigner, who knows nothing about what's going on in this country," meddling, and lecturing about domestic affairs.......will resonate with the other Asian countries.

Duterte was not sending a message to Justin. He was sending a message to other Asian countries.
Trudeau is being painted as a western leader who's "throwing his weight around." That's how they see colonialism.

The nationalistic pride of the people will be stirred. Most likely, they'll side with Duterte on this.


Other Asian countries didn't bring it up - that should've been a clue. They don't want to bring it up to muddy the summit. It's not the right time.

Let's see what happens next.
 
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Duterte's speech is powerful. It's like an election campaign!


“I said I will not explain, it is a personal and official insult, that is why you hear me throwing down epithets and curses,” the Philippine Daily Inquirer quoted him as saying.

According to Duterte, he did not have to explain himself to a foreigner as he would only answer to Filipinos.

“You know, I was elected by the people of the Republic of the Philippines. I only answer to the people of the Republic of the Philippines,” he said.
“I will answer the fisherman and the farmer and I will explain to them patiently why it is so, but I will never, never allow a foreigner to question why it is so.”

“It angers me when you are a foreigner, you do not know exactly what is happening to this country,” he added.
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?A personal and official insult?: Duterte blasts Trudeau for bringing up HR, EJK issues – Kicker Daily News


Great. Maybe Justin helped to get Duterte re-elected.



And this is how Justin is being portrayed in the Philippines:


Trudeau 'bragged' about raising human rights concerns to Duterte: analyst

MANILA - Any host-leader would be offended by the seeming boasting of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that he raised human rights concerns to President Rodrigo Duterte, an analyst said Wednesday.

"There’s nothing wrong per se about raising human rights, but to brag about it, I think he (Trudeau) was playing up to the Canadian audience," Manila's former ambassador to the ASEAN Wilfrido Villacorta told ANC.

"He should have said, ‘I have raised the matter with the President.’ Period. But he kept on talking. Of course, any host-leader would feel offended. This is intervention," he said.

Trudeau had said Duterte was "receptive" when he raised concerns over "human rights, rule of law and extrajudicial killings" on the sidelines of the ASEAN Summit, but the Philippine leader said he took the action as a "personal and official insult."
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Trudeau 'bragged' about raising human rights concerns to Duterte: analyst | ABS-CBN News


Justin's also being portrayed as using Duterte for his (Justin's) own political gain.
 
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I don't get why leaders can go and publicly moralise to other leaders regarding their domestic affairs.

Would you appreciate another leader coming here to discuss trade, publicly wagging a finger at Trudeau and lecturing him about abortion.....?

There is a proper time for everything.
 
Unfortunately, western values really are limited to the west in many cases. This is why a President in Asia can have a massive approval rating while he butchers his own citizens, why many women in the Middle East cannot remove their hijab for fear of public execution, and why a quarter of the world's nations still have blasphemy laws. The values of 1st world nations in the west are, historically speaking, an anomoly that only came into being within the last few centuries. In some cases, such as tolerance for homosexuals, these values are mere decades old.

To believe that the rest of the world will accept a radical shift in their cultural values is folly, and trying to force it is counterproductive. If you honestly want to subvert and change other cultures - and let's be honest here, that's exactly what spreading western values to other nations is - the only morally acceptable and nonviolent way to do so is through education. An educated and prosperous population will usually become more tolerant and less violent, and the prevalence of religion is often diminished greatly. Hurting these nations' connection to the outside world through international trade will not help them.
 
Btw, I notice that our tv news channels have not shown Duterte's speech in its entirety.
 
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Jesse Booth said:
Unfortunately, western values really are limited to the west in many cases. This is why a President in Asia can have a massive approval rating while he butchers his own citizens, why many women in the Middle East cannot remove their hijab for fear of public execution, and why a quarter of the world's nations still have blasphemy laws. The values of 1st world nations in the west are, historically speaking, an anomoly that only came into being within the last few centuries. In some cases, such as tolerance for homosexuals, these values are mere decades old.

To believe that the rest of the world will accept a radical shift in their cultural values is folly, and trying to force it is counterproductive. If you honestly want to subvert and change other cultures - and let's be honest here, that's exactly what spreading western values to other nations is - the only morally acceptable and nonviolent way to do so is through education. An educated and prosperous population will usually become more tolerant and less violent, and the prevalence of religion is often diminished greatly. Hurting these nations' connection to the outside world through international trade will not help them.
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The worst thing is when they come here and try to force their values on Canada and Canadians. The Chinese are the biggest culprit with their government actively trying to fund it.
 
We have values. We have standards. We don't need to accept 'less than'. If they're willing to accept 'less than', fine, but we don't need to keep quiet about what we think is right. Remember when Harper held his hand back for a moment and said to Putin, "Okay, I'll shake your hand, but you need to get out of the Ukraine."? I've never voted Conservative in my life but I thought he behaved himself the way I expect a Canadian Prime Minister to behave himself. Same with Trudeau in SE Asia.
 
Carjosse said:
The worst thing is when they come here and try to force their values on Canada and Canadians. The Chinese are the biggest culprit with their government actively trying to fund it.
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That's actually going on right now? I'd be very interested in hearing more about China's attempt to influence Canada's culture, as this is the first I've heard of it.
 
Duterte just needs to rename himself "Fidel" and call himself a revolutionary and Trudeau will just fawn all over him
 
reinoe said:
Dutarte is handling the problems in The Phillipines the way Filipinos want. Western business interests turned the country into a haven for drug dealers and prostitutes and the money flowing in from those illicit activities was being used to fund terrorism. It's wonderful to watch ignorant feel good lefties whine about problems they know nothing about.
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Ain't it funny how you always think people in foreign countries want death squads roaming the streets. How about you move to the Philippines, take your chances dodging the billets and then tell us how great oppressive leaders are.
 
Grand Mal said:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/trudeau-plays-trump-foil-citing-killings-hu

Trudeau brings up human rights in the Philippines and Duterte calls it a 'personal and official insult'. This is a few days after Trudeau torpedoed Canada's participation in TPP over child labour and human rights issues.
I like it. One of the few things I liked about Harper was him saying to Putin, "I'll shake your hand but you need to get out of Ukraine."
It's called integrity.
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What the ****?

Look, it's hockey season and this true red Canadian really doesn't give a **** what Trudeau told anyone as no one will remember next week anyway.

and seriously Harper?

After the hate campaign those ****s ran "conservative" will be as filthy a word as Trump for a long time
 
Fearandloathing said:
Which just shows your ignorance.

I doubt you've ever even met a Canadian.
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I wasnt referring to Canadians. You need to read what I wrote again. And Ive met plenty of Canadians (one of my former business partners was from Toronto and I also have an aunt and uncle who is Canadian), thank you very much.
 
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reinoe said:
Dutarte is handling the problems in The Phillipines the way Filipinos want. Western business interests turned the country into a haven for drug dealers and prostitutes and the money flowing in from those illicit activities was being used to fund terrorism. It's wonderful to watch ignorant feel good lefties whine about problems they know nothing about.
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Duterte is summarily executing people in the street. The fact that you are supporting a dictator who is murdering his own citizens is duly noted.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Ain't it funny how you always think people in foreign countries want death squads roaming the streets. How about you move to the Philippines, take your chances dodging the billets and then tell us how great oppressive leaders are.
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I think America is the greatest country on Earth. Now many liberals seem to hate everything about this country which makes me wonder why they don't take of Macron's offer and move to France. In the meantime the people of The Phillipines love what Dutarte is doing. Why is that? They don't need feel-good hippy dippy platitudes.
 
Duterte's approval rating had apparently dropped.....however....



Duterte's Rating Is Rising

There's a good reason for it. Equity markets are following the economy. And Duterte's economy has been doing great recently, ranked the world’s 10thfastest growing economy in the world in 2017.

That’s according to the World Bank’s latest edition of Global Economic Prospects. For 2017, the Philippines’ economy is expected to advance between 6.5 to 7.5 percent. And that’s almost twice the country’s long-term growth.

Still, Duterte has something to do with the economy’s strong performance. He has maintained a stable macroeconomic environment of low inflation and low debt to GDP ratio, which has helped sustain a healthy domestic demand growth.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2017/10/10/dutertes-rating-is-rising/#69b139ce1352


A booming economy.....and now.....

Thanks to Justin for giving Duterte a platform to unify that country against the........
.......meddling, sanctimonious foreigner.
 
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I don't know.
Could be....because Canada has become so diversified - we're into this mindset of diversity - that we fail to recognize that some countries don't have this kind of mindset.

Yes, they may welcome foreigners into their country.....but foreigners are expected not to impose their own mindset on the people!

Some countries resent foreigners meddling in their domestic affairs. How many times have you heard this kind of sentiment, "he may be a tyrant, but he's our own tyrant....?"

Wasn't that said about Saddam Husein, the people so angered by Bush/USA?
They have their own pride.


Don't expect other countries to have the same westernized philosophy. They got their own.
 
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