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CETA a (nearly) done deal

Grand Mal

Grand Mal

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No link, just watching the news and the report is that Wallonia has been satisfied and the deal is to go ahead.
Good news out of Brussels (for a change).
 
Grand Mal said:
Thanks.
I would have got there sooner or later, honest!
I think this is important, if only because it shows that Europe can be negotiated with. And, as a Canadian, I like it that it makes ties with Europe. Did I mention that I approve of the EU? The more we can work together, the less fragmented we are, the better off everyone is.
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One thing I have to strongly disagree with is the copyright law the EU is forcing upon us.
 
Carjosse said:
One thing I have to strongly disagree with is the copyright law the EU is forcing upon us.
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500-something million Europeans and 98% of the tariffs gone.
I don't know what the copyright law issue is but whatever it is, I'd still have to call this a great deal. Hell, if we can just get some of that great hard cider from Britain, it's a good deal.
Uh, wait, Brexit?
 
Grand Mal said:
500-something million Europeans and 98% of the tariffs gone.
I don't know what the copyright law issue is but whatever it is, I'd still have to call this a great deal. Hell, if we can just get some of that great hard cider from Britain, it's a good deal.
Uh, wait, Brexit?
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Take cidre. Spelled differently but not all that different.
 
Grand Mal said:
No link, just watching the news and the report is that Wallonia has been satisfied and the deal is to go ahead.
Good news out of Brussels (for a change).
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.......mind you, even with being signed it still has to pass the European parliament (not difficult, I'd imagine) and then all the national parliaments (perhaps not difficult either but always good for a surprise with the one or other).
 
Chagos said:
.......mind you, even with being signed it still has to pass the European parliament (not difficult, I'd imagine) and then all the national parliaments (perhaps not difficult either but always good for a surprise with the one or other).
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Not sure, but would this be the first time all those agreed on anything?
 
Chagos said:
Take cidre. Spelled differently but not all that different.
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Just as good, hopefully.
We made a trip to Scotland awhile ago and since we came back, there's two thinks my wife can't abide- the local cider here and tea bags.
Lotsa apples here, we might try to make some. Wine yeast, I'm thinking...
 
Grand Mal said:
Not sure, but would this be the first time all those agreed on anything?
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No, not the first time.

However there's a lot of controversy among the various "publics" on TTIP.

Now CETA is of course not TTIP but many see it as a (bad) sign of things to come.

The whole TTIP thing has been handled pretty badly here so far, mostly by all the powers that be showing every sign of not wanting too much transparency to surface. Went so far that MPs in various countries (I certainly know of Germany) were allowed to look into the files (stage of negotiation) but not allowed to make copies. They had to look at the stuff in a specially designated room and were only allowed to take notes.

Add that Brussels argued to the very last that it was not in the competence of any national parliament to decide anything (only and exclusively in Brussels' hands) in total contradiction of actual laws per country, and one can't really blame large parts of the population for smelling potential foul play.

Uncalled for IMHO but the handling of it all was a PR catastrophe, the way democratic principles were corrupted in the pre-stages.

As they say, when the rulers become secretive, their subjects become treacherous.

TTIP is far from cut'n dried on account of all that but I have hopes for CETA. Canada is not really regarded as such a corporative imperialist as the US are regarded over here.
 
Grand Mal said:
Just as good, hopefully.
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The Bretons and Normans have been arguing for centuries that they invented it. Of course there was a decades long interchange of both ideas and people (to and fro) between Britain and Brittany even long before the Romans made it to either part of the world.

It's as futile as the argument over who invented French fries (pommes frites). The Belgians adamantly claim that they did and where I've come across better stuff in Belgium than in France, I doubt that it proves anything.
We made a trip to Scotland awhile ago and since we came back, there's two thinks my wife can't abide- the local cider here and tea bags.
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Not familiar with your brand of apple sparkle but if you promise not to tell anyone, I don't even like tea. Not the English way that is, Japanese style is ok with me.
Lotsa apples here, we might try to make some. Wine yeast, I'm thinking...
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Just any apple won't do, you need cider apples. They're generally too poor for eating or cooking but perfect for cider (high sugar to accelerate fermentation and high tannin content for the flavor).

Grown specifically for this purpose in England, France and Northern Spain (where I could get a pretty good sidra) and, I believe, in the US. There I didn't think much of the result though but I guess it all depends on what one got used to first.
 
Chagos said:
It's as futile as the argument over who invented French fries (pommes frites). The Belgians adamantly claim that they did and where I've come across better stuff in Belgium than in France, I doubt that it proves anything.
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Amusingly, in France we consider them as Belgian and we do not understand why English speakers call them "French fries". We simply call them "fries".
 
Auvergnat said:
Amusingly, in France we consider them as Belgian and we do not understand why English speakers call them "French fries". We simply call them "fries".
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Seems indeed confined to the Anglo-Saxon field, here in Spain they're simply "patatas fritas", The Germans have gone completely francophone on them by calling them "pommes frites".

Just as amusingly there, the second word (adjective) often comes out as "Fritz".
 
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