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Government can't give you anything that hasn't first been taken away from someone else.
Oh my god my health care is provided for! This is slavery!!?!?
How is this slavery?
Like Kandahar said even the most "regulated" systems you choose your doctor, your hospital and etc...
There is no "right" to health care.
Health care is a service provided by professionals, and no one has a "right" to the labor of others. The presumption that some have a right to the labor of others is the defintion of slavery.
RealClearPolitics - Video - Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"
He's spot on, watch the video, he makes a great point.
So, Rand Paul is as dumb as a freaking rock. What an embarrassment he is to the Senate.RealClearPolitics - Video - Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"
He's spot on, watch the video, he makes a great point.
Government can't give you anything that hasn't first been taken away from someone else.
Wouldn't the same logic apply to a person's right to be represented by an attorney in court?
Its very Godwinesque.
Do you also believe that teachers, soldiers, prison guards, road workers, and other public servants are slaves? All of those services require funding "at the end of a gun by brute force" too. :roll:
Government can't give you anything that hasn't first been taken away from someone else.
This is the dumbest slavery comparison I've ever heard. Nobody gets conscripted in a universal health care system.
I never understand this perspective. Why would the basic presumption for every person be not to share what they have? We all have differing talents and abilities, and we are strongest when we work together. I do what I can, you do what you can, and we are all better off for it. Ideally, we wouldn't need a government to help with the distribution, but it's really nothing more than a method of getting stuff from point A to point B. The basis for civilization is that we share what we have so that we can all live better lives. This notion of "fruits of labor" only works if a person exists in a vacuum. Which no one does.
If a person hordes everything they can, and needs a government to tell them to shape up and stop acting like a spoiled child, then that person really has no place in civilization, and would rather be a caveman.
I never understand this perspective. Why would the basic presumption for every person be not to share what they have? We all have differing talents and abilities, and we are strongest when we work together. I do what I can, you do what you can, and we are all better off for it. Ideally, we wouldn't need a government to help with the distribution, but it's really nothing more than a method of getting stuff from point A to point B. The basis for civilization is that we share what we have so that we can all live better lives. This notion of "fruits of labor" only works if a person exists in a vacuum. Which no one does.
If a person hordes everything they can, and needs a government to tell them to shape up and stop acting like a spoiled child, then that person really has no place in civilization, and would rather be a caveman. Actually, even cavemen pooled their resources so they could all live better. There is actually no civilization in human history where everyone has only worked for their own benefit. Even the rugged frontiersmen of the American West had to work together to survive. We are a communal species. That's how we are. The ones who only worked to benefit themselves were the tyrranical aristocrats and war-leaders who murdered, raped, and pillaged their way through history, and were the exact dynamic that we in America rebelled against. In functional terms, there is no difference between a wealthy business owner and an Earl or a Duke. They own the things you need to live, and use power and force to keep you from having it.
If someone thinks that the government, which is entirely staffed and run by Americans who grew up in American neighborhoods, raised on American values, attended American schools, does anything besides executing the will of the people, then they are sorely mistaken. Unfortunately, we the American people allowed our will to be expressed in the money owned by a few individuals. And it is our own fault for letting that happen, and we need to do something about that.
Rand Pauls comments are nothing more than unnecessary race baiting.
for the love of god. slavery is a concept that is not actually tied to race.
Shh, don't you know, slavery is ONLY slavery when white people enslave black people, anything else isn't actually "slavery"
No, slavery is slavery when it's slavery. Calling things that are not slavery, you know where you actually get paid for your work, is not slavery. This is some stupid **** here.
No, slavery is slavery when it's slavery. Calling things that are not slavery, you know where you actually get paid for your work, is not slavery. This is some stupid **** here.
He was making a comparison, to explain how you cannot have a RIGHT to healthcare. Instead of taking a moment to think about that, and why he said it, you're stuck on "OMG it's NOT SLAVERY LOL" mode. Which is the real tragedy here.
he didn't call it slavery, he said it is "like slavery" as in having some similar qualities, while not actually equaling something.
you are right, this thread does contain some stupid **** here.
He's making a stupid and false comparison. If he were serious, he find something that might actually work as a comparison. As it is, he has done nothing but hurt his own position.
Like is a comparison, and it is not like slavery in any way. Any one who says it is is saying some really stupid ****.