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Russia is a Mafia-State: Theft of $230m from the Russian budget

Alfons

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This information will surely attract Attention of American Medias and probably Republican Party because American People has the Right to ask Obama why he support a genuine Mafia State and do nothing to support American citizens and American business in Russia.

Dear Conservatives and the Tea Party Members, please redistribute this information and make a lot of unpleasant questions to the Putin's friends in D.C. In any case Russia is after this information practically a Mafia - State, it is an interesting question who can still make business with a regime where practically there is no difference between Mafia, Government, Law enforced authorities and thieves.

Also, guys, enjoy it!

Question: Can you imagine yourself the bitter reality of Kremlin Regime for simple Russians, even if USA can not help its businesses and citizens in Russia?

Theft of $230m from the Russian budget « Stop the Untouchables. Justice for Sergei Magnitsky.

The Corrupt Officers Attempt to Arrest 8 Lawyers « Stop the Untouchables. Justice for Sergei Magnitsky.

Stop the Untouchables. Justice for Sergei Magnitsky.



Russian version:

http://www.echo.msk.ru/blog/navalny/767184-echo/
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059456254 said:
You should take care of your own country and stop worrying about Russia. You've got enough on your plate.
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I found it interesting.
 
Alfons said:
This information will surely attract Attention of American Medias and probably Republican Party because American People has the Right to ask Obama why he support a genuine Mafia State and do nothing to support American citizens and American business in Russia.

Dear Conservatives and the Tea Party Members, please redistribute this information and make a lot of unpleasant questions to the Putin's friends in D.C. In any case Russia is after this information practically a Mafia - State, it is an interesting question who can still make business with a regime where practically there is no difference between Mafia, Government, Law enforced authorities and thieves.

Also, guys, enjoy it!

Question: Can you imagine yourself the bitter reality of Kremlin Regime for simple Russians, even if USA can not help its businesses and citizens in Russia?
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Of course there is corruption in Russia. It's a major problem. But why is it OUR business? The only way that the United States should be involved is offering some friendly suggestions regarding transparency best practices, if the Russians decide to get serious about fighting corruption. Beyond that, it isn't really our concern. It's sad, but that's the way the world is and there are plenty of worse problems.
 
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Иосиф Сталин;1059456254 said:
You should take care of your own country and stop worrying about Russia. You've got enough on your plate.
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Yep, we care about us, only insane and mentally ill people can invest or make business in Russia.





Some additional information:


[video]http://www.youtube.com/user/RussianUntouchables#p/a/f/2/ybw1a61lRE0[/video]
 
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Kandahar said:
Of course there is corruption in Russia. It's a major problem. But why is it OUR business?
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Your post is Un-American, Obama makes nothing to save american business and citizens in Russia.
 
Alfons said:
Your post is Un-American, Obama makes nothing to save american business and citizens in Russia.
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I thought you hate gov intervention......
 
Alfons said:
I thought Obama is an American President who fight for American citizens and business worldwide.
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So what is supposed to do in another sovereign country?
 
Alfons said:
Your post is Un-American, Obama makes nothing to save american business and citizens in Russia.
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What exactly do you want him to do? It's pretty commonly understood that when American businesses and citizens invest in Russia, they're doing so at their own risk and are subject to the laws (or lack thereof) in Russia. So why does Obama need to get involved?
 
Alfons said:
I thought Obama is an American President who fight for American citizens and business worldwide.
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Isn't that the promised idea for most, if not all, every President of the United States? Yet how many bother to define it and actually do just that?

The article is only listing but one of the many problems America need to deal with. Besides, Obama is probably too busy involved in some war we're not even supposed to be in to care about something like this.
 
Alfons said:
I thought Obama is an American President who fight for American citizens and business worldwide.
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Im just saying i thought you hate gov intervention. It seems your calling for gov intervention in private business in Russia...
 
winston53660 said:
So what is supposed to do in another sovereign country?
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I do not say it, but in America to vote for a more patriotic potus, preferably a republican one.
 
Akihiko said:
Besides, Obama is probably too busy involved in some war we're not even supposed to be in to care about something like this.
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Because Obama is too "busy" , the next potus will sure better tackle it.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
It seems your calling for gov intervention in private business in Russia...
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Killing of American citizens and persecuting of American business is not "private business" of Russia.
 
Alfons said:
Better relaxing and laugh, right?
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Actually, yes. Any American citizens or businesses who choose to invest in Russia know the risks they face, or at least they SHOULD know. If those risks blow up in their face, they have no one to blame but themselves. For someone who claims to be a conservative, you sure do seem supportive of government bailouts for stupid investments.

Alfons said:
Killing of American citizens and persecuting of American business is not "private business" of Russia.
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Which American citizens has Russia killed? As for "persecuting of American business," if you're referring to Americans corporations that are actually doing business in Russia, they have a solution if the Russian government becomes hostile to their enterprise: Withdraw their operations from the country.
 
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Alfons said:
Killing of American citizens and persecuting of American business is not "private business" of Russia.
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Wait someone died in Russia?
Your calling for gov intervention.... Something you were very opposed for the gov doing here in your own country....
 
Alfons said:
Because Obama is too "busy" , the next potus will sure better tackle it.
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I think that dealing with corruption in Russia on behalf of American businesses probably ranks about 1,513,974th on the "to do" list of any POTUS.
 
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