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Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

LOL, so where are the assurance that more revenue going to the govt. are going to be used to pay down the debt? You willingly accept what you are told by this govt. and totally ignore history. We have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget and a projected 1.6 trillion dollar debt so tell me how much of that budget is interest expense and if eliminated what will that do to the deficit?

You asked for a reason, and I gave you one. You can look up the interest payments as an expense, I don't need to do for it you. What does paying down the debt do? Paying down the national debt will lead to lower interest rates and therefore more affordable housing, therefore boosting the economy and providing jobs.
 
You asked for a reason, and I gave you one. You can look up the interest payments as an expense, I don't need to do for it you. What does paying down the debt do? Paying down the national debt will lead to lower interest rates and therefore more affordable housing, therefore boosting the economy and providing jobs.

Yes, I can look up the debt service and have. My point remains with a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit and low interest rates that is a drop in the bucket. Further you did give a reason but it is a false one, more revenue to the govt. has never, and I mean never reduced the debt which has gone up under EVERY President. Congress has a spending problem and they use spending to buy votes. Until that stops sending them more money doesn't do anything but increase the size and scope of the govt. Political passion for keeping their jobs and their power prevents leaders from doing their job which is to pay down the debt and have effective management of the economy. In other words, create incentive for the private sector and then get out of the way?
 
We don't pay more individual gasoline taxes than other countries, just have more people paying a lower amount. The excise taxes collected by the govt. are shown on the U.S. Treasury website. Why don't you familiarize yourself with the site so you stop making a fool of yourself. Like all liberals the percentage collected is more important than the amount, right? Still waiting for you to explain how you keeping more of what you earn isn't an expense to the govt. but the rich keeping more of what they earn is an expense? Keep running

"In most of the industrialized world, including Europe and Japan, pump prices are much higher than in the U.S. – even though the wholesale price is roughly the same. The difference is a heavy tax load those countries impose to discourage consumption.

The Dutch have the dubious distinction of paying the most to fill 'er up, according to the U.S. Deptatment of Energy. (There are various agencies that track gasoline prices, but these are among the most recent figures available.) As of April 10, drivers in the Netherlands were paying the equivalent of about $6.73 a gallon at the pump. The gas itself cost $2.61; the rest — $4.12 — represented tax. That’s a 158 percent tax. By comparison, the U.S. has the lowest tax on gasoline of any industrialized country: about 15 percent at current prices. "
What does gasoline cost in other countries? - Business - Answer Desk - msnbc.com
 
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"In most of the industrialized world, including Europe and Japan, pump prices are much higher than in the U.S. – even though the wholesale price is roughly the same. The difference is a heavy tax load those countries impose to discourage consumption.

The Dutch have the dubious distinction of paying the most to fill 'er up, according to the U.S. Deptatment of Energy. (There are various agencies that track gasoline prices, but these are among the most recent figures available.) As of April 10, drivers in the Netherlands were paying the equivalent of about $6.73 a gallon at the pump. The gas itself cost $2.61; the rest — $4.12 — represented tax. That’s a 158 percent tax. By comparison, the U.S. has the lowest tax on gasoline of any industrialized country: about 15 percent at current prices. "

Yes, they are with more than half the population that we have thus half the cars on the road with less distance to travel. You can drive across many of those countries in less than a day. You cannot even drive across TX in a day. I cannot believe how misinformed you are yet claim to be an expert. The average tax in this country Federal and State is .50 per gallon and there many times more drivers in this country than in those countries you admire. We don't need higher taxes we need a reduction in spending.
 
Yes, they are with more than half the population that we have thus half the cars on the road with less distance to travel. You can drive across many of those countries in less than a day. You cannot even drive across TX in a day. I cannot believe how misinformed you are yet claim to be an expert. The average tax in this country Federal and State is .50 per gallon and there many times more drivers in this country than in those countries you admire. We don't need higher taxes we need a reduction in spending.

Thanks for your opinion. As has been documented, we have the lowest gasoline tax in the industrialized world.

Regarding your "big country" claim:

"Average one-way commute time is 26 minutes (over an average distance of 16 miles)"

Poll: Traffic in the United States - ABC News

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Catawba;1059478771]Thanks for your opinion. As has been documented, we have the lowest gasoline tax in the industrialized world.


So what? Is this a race to see who has the highest taxes?

Regarding your "big country" claim:

"Average one-way commute time is 26 minutes (over an average distance of 16 miles)"

Poll: Traffic in the United States - ABC News

Again, so what, we aren't talking totally about community but also the recreation industry and the American tradition of taking vacations which drive the tourist industry. That doesn't seem to matter to you as you continue to show just how misinformed you truly are.
 
So what? Is this a race to see who has the highest taxes?



Again, so what, we aren't talking totally about community but also the recreation industry and the American tradition of taking vacations which drive the tourist industry. That doesn't seem to matter to you as you continue to show just how misinformed you truly are.

I am the one providing the facts to refute your unsubstantiated claims, that's what's so! :sun
 
I am the one providing the facts to refute your unsubstantiated claims, that's what's so! :sun

What facts? 67 BILLION DOLLARS was collected last year at the Federal Level in Excise taxes with most of that coming from the .18 Federal Excise Taxes on gasoline. State taxes on gasoline are much higher than the Federal Taxes and in some states there is sales tax on top of the state excise taxes as wll as local and community taxes on gasoline. Your so called facts mean absolutely nothing. How much actual money is collected by those foreign governments with high taxes on gasoline? High rates do not mean high revenue collected as high rates mean fewer people on the road. Keep showing your economic ignorance.
 
What facts? 67 BILLION DOLLARS was collected last year at the Federal Level in Excise taxes with most of that coming from the .18 Federal Excise Taxes on gasoline. State taxes on gasoline are much higher than the Federal Taxes and in some states there is sales tax on top of the state excise taxes as wll as local and community taxes on gasoline. Your so called facts mean absolutely nothing. How much actual money is collected by those foreign governments with high taxes on gasoline? High rates do not mean high revenue collected as high rates mean fewer people on the road. Keep showing your economic ignorance.

LOL! So your response to the fact that we have the lowest tax rates on gasoline in the industrialized world is that we are more wasteful and thus pay more total tax (which you also have not substantiated)? :sun
 
LOL! So your response to the fact that we have the lowest tax rates on gasoline in the industrialized world is that we are more wasteful and thus pay more total tax (which you also have not substantiated)? :sun
Not to mention this is ANOTHER example of a regressive tax already in the system.
A system about which we hear daily, "the bottom 40% pay no taxes".
Like the Jewel 'walmarters running out of money' string..
this is another that Backfires on the OP.
 
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Yes, I can look up the debt service and have. My point remains with a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit and low interest rates that is a drop in the bucket. Further you did give a reason but it is a false one, more revenue to the govt. has never, and I mean never reduced the debt which has gone up under EVERY President. Congress has a spending problem and they use spending to buy votes. Until that stops sending them more money doesn't do anything but increase the size and scope of the govt. Political passion for keeping their jobs and their power prevents leaders from doing their job which is to pay down the debt and have effective management of the economy. In other words, create incentive for the private sector and then get out of the way?

I agree with get all regulations out the way, do not tax, and take the cap off lawsuits.
 
Not to mention this is ANOTHER example of a regressive tax already in the system.
A system about which we hear daily, "the bottom 40% pay no taxes".
Like the Jewel 'walmarters running out of money' string..
this is another that Backfires on the OP.

I think everbody should pay equal taxes, the same amount, based on citizenship, not income. Why income? How about shoe size? Or the number of teeth you have? Why should I pay more taxes than the homeless man selling cans. We should all pay the same amount.
 
LOL! So your response to the fact that we have the lowest tax rates on gasoline in the industrialized world is that we are more wasteful and thus pay more total tax (which you also have not substantiated)? :sun

Do low rates mean low collections thus revenue? Is 68 billion dollars low in your world and that is just the federal excise taxes? Please tell me this is an act?
 
I actually think his posts are an attempt to TURN fiction INTO real life!

Interesting how you and others here post op ed pieces as fact and ignore actual data and claim it is fiction. Our education system is a disaster
 
Interesting how you and others here post op ed pieces as fact and ignore actual data and claim it is fiction. Our education system is a disaster

I don't think I've ever posted a link here.

Certainly not an op ed.

And you have demonstrated zero ability to THINK about the facts you post.

You cannot/will not answer a single question or challenge to the concepts your facts REPRESENT.

This is one way that propagandists LIE.

Drown your audience in facts so they won't notice what you left out. If somebody notices, repost even more facts that don't address what you've still left out as if more partial proof will eventually equal proof.

And deliver above as if you are a super genius.

I've got some great resources on PR techniques, unfair debating tactics, even a game designed to teach kids how to identify and defend against PR machinations called "Propaganda, the game", co-authored by Lorne Greene.

I would be happy to provide these to you in the interest of helping you understand why so many here consider you a douche!:2wave:
 
Do low rates mean low collections thus revenue? Is 68 billion dollars low in your world and that is just the federal excise taxes? Please tell me this is an act?

You have not compared that 68 billion in taxes with any other nations so the significance of your figure is irrelevant. We do know however that we have the lowest tax on gasoline of any other country in the industrialized world. It is why our gas cost only about half as much as in most EU countries, so quit your whining.
 
You have not compared that 68 billion in taxes with any other nations so the significance of your figure is irrelevant. We do know however that we have the lowest tax on gasoline of any other country in the industrialized world. It is why our gas cost only about half as much as in most EU countries, so quit your whining.

I asked you a question which of course you ignored like you do all the tough ones. Do low tax rates mean low revenue collection? How do you explain Reagan cutting taxes 10-10-5% and getting more FEDERAL INCOME TAX REVENUE? Problem for you is you cannot explain it nor does it matter. The brainwashed do not care.

You are the one raising the issue of low gasoline taxes vs. the rest of the world although not true. Russia, China, and of course most of the Middle East don't have high gasoline taxes. I don't give a damn that our gasoline is the cheapest in the world, why do you?
 
I think everbody should pay equal taxes, the same amount, based on citizenship, not income. Why income? How about shoe size? Or the number of teeth you have? Why should I pay more taxes than the homeless man selling cans. We should all pay the same amount.
I agree!
I've often voiced the Fairest tax of all.. but mostly for illustration.
Let's look at some rough numbers.

El Simplo/Simplest:
Budget ::::: $3 Trillion ÷ 300 million citizens = $10,000 each.
It doesn't get any easier or "fairer" than that!!!!
That's EVERYONE of course, child, old, handicapped etc.
Warren Bufett + wife taxes.... $20,000
Single Welfare mother of six... $70,000
Walmart employee/family of 4. $40,000
92 year retiree on SS ............ $10,000

More workable? second "fairest".
$3 Trillion ÷ 120,000,000 households/Same Current income tax entities = $25,000 each household (Single or Married couple filing jointly, etc)
Walmart worker who makes $25,000 (that is their avg pay), pays 100% of his salary before any other deductions in tax, but owes more for SS etc.
He's in the Hole and of course not eating, housed, transported, or working any more.
Obviously everyone can't pay "their fair share" which IS about 25k.
That's basically what you (and others) are asking for.
Splash the two fairest. Or double/triple everyone else's burden and open Debtor prisons.

From these two examples, one hopes you can see that ONLY a Progressive income tax is do-able.
'Possible' trumps 'fair'.
REWIND:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/economics/90108-truth-can-afford-pay-taxes.html
 
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Do low tax rates mean low revenue collection?

Yes, it does. If we charged what all the other countries do we would have much higher revenue collection, would we not?


How do you explain Reagan cutting taxes 10-10-5% and getting more FEDERAL INCOME TAX REVENUE?

They didn't over the long-term. The Reagan tax cuts, like those of Bush, and like those in the 20's, all resulted in a short-term growth bubble followed by a recession.

How do you explain Ciinton raising taxes and getting more in federal income tax revenue and increasing the GDP to debt ration at the same time?


I don't give a damn that our gasoline is the cheapest in the world, why do you?

Thanks for that admission! :sun

Its good info to provide to the nimrods who bitch about gas prices in the US.
 
Catawba;1059479776]Yes, it does. If we charged what all the other countries do we would have much higher revenue collection, would we not?

No, it does not, you are going to put the tourist industry out of business. There you go again worrying about how much revenue your precious govt. gets so they can waste it and drive up the debt


They didn't over the long-term. The Reagan tax cuts, like those of Bush, and like those in the 20's, all resulted in a short-term growth bubble followed by a recession.

Same question, how do you cut Federal Income taxes and grow Federal income tax revenue?

How do you explain Ciinton raising taxes and getting more in federal income tax revenue and increasing the GDP to debt ration at the same time?

We had a growing economy when Clinton took office and almost full employment. You will collect more in taxes with full employment vs. what we have today 15 million unemployed


Thanks for that admission! :sun

Its good info to provide to the nimrods who bitch about gas prices in the US.

Spent 35 years on the oil business so why would I bitch about gasoline prices? I am bitching about a govt however that makes .50 a gallon and does nothing to get that amount.
 
No, it does not, you are going to put the tourist industry out of business.

Ha! Like Europe put the tourist industry out of business?


Same question, how do you cut Federal Income taxes and grow Federal income tax revenue?

You don't for long. Each time we tried it, we experience a short-term growth bubble followed by a recesssion and greater debt.



We had a growing economy when Clinton took office and almost full employment. You will collect more in taxes with full employment vs. what we have today 15 million unemployed

We had deficit spending and we had rising unemployment when Clinton took office, it went down during his administration as seen below:

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Depression's All Talk, So Far - Seeking Alpha

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The U.S. Debt Ceiling: A Historical Look - Daniel Indiviglio - Business - The Atlantic




Spent 35 years on the oil business so why would I bitch about gasoline prices? I am bitching about a govt however that makes .50 a gallon and does nothing to get that amount.

"In the United States, the fuel tax receipts are often dedicated or hypothecated to transportation projects so that the fuel tax is considered by many a user fee. In other countries, the fuel tax is a source of general revenue."
Fuel tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, we have the lowest gasoline taxes in the industrialized world and you are bitching. Sounds like a personal problem to me! :sun
 
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We had deficit spending and we had rising unemployment when Clinton took office, it went down during his administration as seen below:

Yep, thanks to the Republican Congress.
 
Who also spent like drunken sailors during the 2000-2006 years

You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, these Republicans didn't learn the lessons that got Dems kicked out of office in the 90s and put Republicans in power, costing them both the Senate and House. And THAT cost the country dearly because Dems spent money like drunken sailors since 2008.
 
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