• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

X Factor

Anti-Socialist
Dungeon Master
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 1, 2010
Messages
61,606
Reaction score
32,218
Location
El Paso Strong
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
Moments before a conference call with reporters was scheduled to get underway on Tuesday morning, Charles E. Schumer of New York, the No. 3 Democrat in the Senate, apparently unaware that many of the reporters were already on the line, began to instruct his fellow senators on how to talk to reporters about the contentious budget process.

After thanking his colleagues — Barbara Boxer of California, Benjamin L. Cardin of Maryland, Thomas R. Carper of Delaware and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut — for doing the budget bidding for the Senate Democrats, who are facing off against the House Republicans over how to cut spending for the rest of the fiscal year, Mr. Schumer told them to portray John A. Boehner of Ohio, the speaker of the House, as painted into a box by the Tea Party, and to decry the spending cuts that he wants as extreme. “I always use the word extreme,” Mr. Schumer said. “That is what the caucus instructed me to use this week.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/on-a-senate-call-a-glimpse-of-marching-orders/

Oops, this is the equivalent of not realizing the mic is on.
 
Last edited:
The distributing of talking points pretty typical for all politicians :shrug:
 
Sure seems to cut against sincerity though, doesn't it?
Politicians follow talking points. That's what we've started with this 24 hour news cycle. If it's more than a small sound bite then you get ignored.
 
Maybe I'm naive but I believe that some (granted precious few) actually are.

I agree with you there, but those sincere politicians still speak in talking points. That's pretty much guaranteed. Especially if they belong to either of the two major parties.
 
Politicians follow talking points. That's what we've started with this 24 hour news cycle. If it's more than a small sound bite then you get ignored.

Pretty much. Since there is so much news and no more content than in previous years, the rhetoric gets jacked up and stuff like this becomes necessary to overcome some of the signal to noise ratio.
 
Politicians follow talking points. That's what we've started with this 24 hour news cycle. If it's more than a small sound bite then you get ignored.
Ok, but now we know that any future bashing of Boehner or the T party as being extreme is nothing but a talking point dictated by Schumer.
 
Just because it is a talking point doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it a point of emphasis.
 
Ok, but now we know that any future bashing of Boehner or the T party as being extreme is nothing but a talking point dictated by Schumer.

You don't think the other side isn't doing the same thing?

The simple fact is that its a talking point to summarize the events according to a perspective. Talking points are only bad if one mindlessly repeats them and doesn't understand why the point exists in the first place. Politicians tend to be above average intelligence and generally are aware of the goings on of politics.
 
Last edited:
It's all politics baby. It's all spin and one-sidedness. Nobody is interested in the full picture, on what is actually reality. Today, listening to NPR I found myself disgusted to listen to Harry Reid and the Congressional Dem leadership accusing Republicans of trying to destroy Social Security, and found myself agreeing with Eric Cantor. That's how sad our politics have become.
 
Just because it is a talking point doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it a point of emphasis.
Yeah, when we want the Dems opinion we'll have to wait until Schumer gives it to them.
 
Ok, but now we know that any future bashing of Boehner or the T party as being extreme is nothing but a talking point dictated by Schumer.

You think all republicans started calling it "the job killing healthcare bill" on their own? lol.

Talk points could be true or not true. They are just there to make it easier for a politician to keep the subject to a topic of they're choosing. Everyone does it, it's nothing new, it's nothing outrageous, it's not breaking news. Give up.
 
You don't think the other side isn't doing the same thing?
Given that I've recently heard Republicans criticize other Republicans, leading some to believe there's a GOP "civil war", the GOP must just not be that good at it.
 
Given that I've recently heard Republicans criticize other Republicans, leading some to believe there's a GOP "civil war", the GOP must just not be that good at it.

Thats because the GOP is fracturing at the moment, however, I am quite certain each faction has their own similar meetings.
 
OK...so its official...cutting federal spending and trying to stop the insanity that is annual deficit spending is 'extreme.' Expect the federal government to reduce spending is 'extreme.'

Call me 'extreme.' I think people that accept the federal government spending 1.4 trillion annually more than what they take in are not 'extreme.' They are 'morons.'
 
Given that I've recently heard Republicans criticize other Republicans, leading some to believe there's a GOP "civil war", the GOP must just not be that good at it.

Have you heard Kucinich talk about Obama lately? Is it that hard to understand that all of this crap happens on both sides? Can anyone really be that dense?
 
Back
Top Bottom