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Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan & Crash Stock Market

Re: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan & Crash Stock Marke

You don't find it odd that Obama never hung around normal people? Hell, he never even hung out with your run of the mill liberals. They were all Commis , domestic terrorists, black liberation theologian's, radicals, socialists and Union thugs.

If you knew anything substantial about the culture of places like Harvard and University of Chicago where he studied and taught, respectively, then you would understand why he was able to interact with people of different political backgrounds and perspectives. Those are academic environments where liberals and conservatives, "commies" and capitalists, etc. enjoy talking about all sorts of ideas.

I can assure you that many of the most conservative people at those schools have interacted with these "commies, domestic terrorists, black liberation theologian's, radicals, socialists and Union thugs" just as much as Obama. That's the culture at both of those schools - it's about exchanging ideas and not avoiding them because they've been blacklisted by people who are afraid.
 
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FRank Marshall.....

He's the one who probably influenced Obama the most. I think he was about 10 then, with a mind like a sponge.
 
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First of all, the protests would have to be large scale and successful... so there is already a up hill battle. Second, for a financial crisis to be the result, the entire financial industry would have to be stubborn and headstrong and not even try to meet the demands of those large scale protests. It doesn't make rational economic sense... Why would a firm go against thousands or millions of their consumers? It would be shooting themselves in the foot, they'd hurt themselves to not give into some of the demands...

It reminds me of all the protests against GAP sweatshops. Eventually GAP made public their rules and ethics regarding international workers, and they publicly stopped contract work with some firms. They blamed the child labor on the factory management in India... not themselves. It's just PR work... once the protests get big, and they are actually worried it's going to impact their bottom line, they'll address it and try to appease the protesters enough to get back to work.

He isn't being practical... but radical, maybe, maybe not... but he is definitely not a threat as his approach isn't realistic IMO
 
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You don't find it odd that Obama never hung around normal people? Hell, he never even hung out with your run of the mill liberals. They were all Commis , domestic terrorists, black liberation theologian's, radicals, socialists and Union thugs.

Do you really believe that? Do you really know that much about Obama and his past? Do you really think his spent all his time with Bill Ayers?

It's just a charicature. Like all charicature, there is some basis in reality, some semblance of truth. But it's a cartoon. It's not real. It's loaded with interpretation.

Do you think you can prove that Obama never hung out with "run of the mill liberals?"
 
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Do you understand that reason our economy is in such a mess is because of the fat cats on Wall Street? Betting on near worthless exotic derivative transactions. Beck is a kook.

Housing went in the toilet because of The Community Reinvestment Act, enacted by Congress in 1977 ie was intended to encourage depository institutions to help meet the credit needs of the communities in which they operate, and that led to making loans to people who did not really qualify. They failed and so the crash.

Some of the problem was do to greed for sure but some was do to the speculation Markets that need to be controlled or eliminated, for such commodities as oil.

The Federal Government not living within it's means is a big reason we are in trouble and that wild crazy spending since Obama went nuts just made it worse.
 
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First of all, the protests would have to be large scale and successful... so there is already a up hill battle. Second, for a financial crisis to be the result, the entire financial industry would have to be stubborn and headstrong and not even try to meet the demands of those large scale protests. It doesn't make rational economic sense... Why would a firm go against thousands or millions of their consumers? It would be shooting themselves in the foot, they'd hurt themselves to not give into some of the demands...

It reminds me of all the protests against GAP sweatshops. Eventually GAP made public their rules and ethics regarding international workers, and they publicly stopped contract work with some firms. They blamed the child labor on the factory management in India... not themselves. It's just PR work... once the protests get big, and they are actually worried it's going to impact their bottom line, they'll address it and try to appease the protesters enough to get back to work.

He isn't being practical... but radical, maybe, maybe not... but he is definitely not a threat as his approach isn't realistic IMO

This is my point. He's plan clearly isn't going to work, so I don't see a reason to be concerned or even to think it's something all "left-wingers" advocate since it's largely impractical. In the same light, because it's so impractical and because I'm not sure about the entire context of his presentation, I have a hard time believing he was talking about it as a real, viable solution to the problems he sees with bankers. It seems to me like he's talking more about an ideal of sorts (the ideal way to combat a problem), but not an actual strategy.
 
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Three languages!!!

:allhail

I barely speak Russian now, and I could never read it... :blah:
 
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This is my point. He's plan clearly isn't going to work, so I don't see a reason to be concerned or even to think it's something all "left-wingers" advocate since it's largely impractical. In the same light, because it's so impractical and because I'm not sure about the entire context of his presentation, I have a hard time believing he was talking about it as a real, viable solution to the problems he sees with bankers. It seems to me like he's talking more about an ideal of sorts (the ideal way to combat a problem), but not an actual strategy.

I don't think he or his words are important. The only reason to focus on it is to demonize "the left." It's one more piece of straw in a giant straw-man.
 
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Do you really believe that? Do you really know that much about Obama and his past? Do you really think his spent all his time with Bill Ayers?

Perhaps questions that should of been asked prior to The Most Inexperienced, Corrupt, and Non-Transparent President in history being elected by 50 million mind numb minds.........

If you happen to be the one person that knows about Obama and his past..........

1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.-not found, not released.
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
10) Columbia College records — not released
11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
16) Obama’s medical records — not released
17) Obama’s passport records — not released

......would you mind filling the rest of us 300 million in?

.....and dont forget to tell Brokaw and Rose.....and the rest of the liberal media.



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This is my point. He's plan clearly isn't going to work, so I don't see a reason to be concerned or even to think it's something all "left-wingers" advocate since it's largely impractical. In the same light, because it's so impractical and because I'm not sure about the entire context of his presentation, I have a hard time believing he was talking about it as a real, viable solution to the problems he sees with bankers. It seems to me like he's talking more about an ideal of sorts (the ideal way to combat a problem), but not an actual strategy.

Aside from the fact that I don't see it working... I also don't think he wants to destroy the economy or capitalism. I think his goal is to reform the banking industry, but put the middle class people in charge of that reform. :shrug:
 
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Do you really believe that? Do you really know that much about Obama and his past? Do you really think his spent all his time with Bill Ayers?

It's just a charicature. Like all charicature, there is some basis in reality, some semblance of truth. But it's a cartoon. It's not real. It's loaded with interpretation.

Do you think you can prove that Obama never hung out with "run of the mill liberals?"


That's dumb. Can you prove he did?
 
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Perhaps questions that should of been asked prior to The Most Inexperienced, Corrupt, and Non-Transparent President in history being elected by 50 million mind numb minds.........

If you happen to be the one person that knows about Obama and his past..........

1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.-not found, not released.
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
10) Columbia College records — not released
11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
16) Obama’s medical records — not released
17) Obama’s passport records — not released

......would you mind filling the rest of us 300 million in?

.....and dont forget to tell Brokaw and Rose.....and the rest of the liberal media.



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So you don't think any of those things exist? Or you just think they're being withheld because they're damning? What powerful, secretive force is behind all this?
 
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Exactly how he explained it. Only problem is, he'd have to get a lot of people to agree to his scheme.
And you think there is even a very remote chance of that happening?? If he were even close to being that influential, he would already be a rich man. This thread should probably in the conspiracy part of the forum..
 
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That's dumb. Can you prove he did?

Is this supposed to be serious? Can you prove that he's ever stepped on a crack in a sidewalk?
 
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So you don't think any of those things exist? Or you just think they're being withheld because they're damning? What powerful, secretive force is behind all this?

Again.....Perhaps questions that should of been asked before electing The Most Inexperienced, Corrupt, Non-Transparent President in History.
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.......but that would entail the very people who deny the SEIU Video and Transcripts that lay before their very eyes.....recognizing reality.
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Again.....Perhaps questions that should of been asked before electing The Most Inexperienced, Corrupt, Non-Transparent President in History.
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.......but that would entail the very people who deny the SEIU Video and Transcripts that lay before their very eyes.....recognizing reality.
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Are you sure I'm the one having trouble recognizing reality?
 
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Stephen Lerner is bat crazy for wanting to do this, isn't he pb?

Right, pb?......
 
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Are you sure I'm the one having trouble recognizing reality?

Well take the test......



Did you see the video above? Could you hear the audio?

......it seems no Democrat voter can......
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Well take the test......



Did you see the video above? Could you hear the audio?

......it seems no Democrat voter can......
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OK ... so we've come full circle.

Now ... what does this have to do with Obama's birth certificate? Where's the connection? What does this have to do with college transcripts, medical records .. etc. What does Bill Ayers have to do with this? Frank Marshall? Black Liberation Theology? Keyser Soze?
 
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OK ... so we've come full circle.

.....so you couldnt see the video either.......how long have you been voting Democrat?

Now ... what does this have to do with Obama's birth certificate? Where's the connection? What does this have to do with college transcripts, medical records .. etc. What does Bill Ayers have to do with this? Frank Marshall? Black Liberation Theology? Keyser Soze?

If you know......there are 300 million waiting for the answers. The self-proclaimed President of Transparency seems to be as transparent as ****cago is safe.....
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Re: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan & Crash Stock Marke

Wouldn't this at least be reported by Fox if it was true, rather than "The Blaze," which is essentially Glenn Beck's blog.

Last week "The Blaze" was all the rage because they slammed the sting by James O'Keefe...

This week, "oh that's just beck's blog..."
 
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Stephen Lerner is bat crazy for wanting to do this, isn't he pb?
Absolutely, but so are the people who think this is even possible. They obviously don't have critical thinking skills, logic is not their friend.
 
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They cover their eyes or ears whenever things like Obama's friends and his days before his presidency are brought up.

Actually Barb, some of us judge people on their actions, not on who Beck claims their friends are. I have friends who are far fringe libertarians who think any regulation to business is communism and bad. Does that make me a fringe libertarian?
 
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