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Palin 'becoming Al Sharpton'?

trying to figure this one out:

... The aim of the trip is to become acquainted with Israel ahead of an official visit she is planning in the coming months, Yediot said. ...
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how is palin going to have an "official" trip to israel when she is in charge of nothing?


Palin ‘due in Israel’ for private visit | The Raw Story

i can see it now, bibbi to palin:
alright, we will get you elected president, but just remember we run the show
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Barbbtx said:
None, and that plays in her favor. Washington hasn't corrupted her.
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It doesn't work that way, Barb. You need Washington corruption to get any significant movement. Real life is not Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
 
Fiddytree said:
It doesn't work that way, Barb. You need Washington corruption to get any significant movement. Real life is not Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
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It really upsets me when you have to bring logic, reason and reality into the conversation Fiddy, so inconvenient.
 
Yeah, right now I do it with populist conservatives. A couple years ago, I had to "bring" some reality back in conversation to Obama base liberals. It is noble to think that you have to be free from corruption, but in all honesty, you need to work with the system to get results. Being adversarial can easily bring misery.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Yeah, right now I do it with populist conservatives. A couple years ago, I had to "bring" some reality back in conversation to Obama base liberals. It is noble to think that you have to be free from corruption, but in all honesty, you need to work with the system to get results. Being adversarial can easily bring misery.
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Well, adversarial politics can produce positive results.

But what's happened is, especially in regards to the republican party, is that their base has become very, well. Touchy might be the right word. When democrats are considered by some on the right to be the "enemy" and compromising with them on a piece of legislation is "collusion".

I think that's where America had really started to fail. The two parties are so concerned with getting elected, being the heroes, that they've forgotten they're there to run a country. And that goes for both sides.

Personally, I'd be embarrassed to call myself a democrat or a republican.
 
Andalublue said:
Hasn't educated her either. What are you claiming qualifies her for high office?
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This is an unbiased source. Some of her accomplishments are found to be mostly false, true, mostly true etc.
No matter, she was still more qualified for high office than Obama. I expect you will list his accomplishments while in Congress, right?

Sarah Palin’s Accomplishments | FactCheck.org
 
Yes makes for some great headlines,talking points and some desired results on the short-term, but not much more. As far as it being the conservative base right now, sure it is more touchy. However, "Yes We Can" repeat ad nauseam produced many of the same trite characterizations of Washington and politics in general. It surely had the base believing for at least a short time, somehow "Washington will be changed"-their way. It is always a ridiculous fantasy, serving the needs of children rather than adults.

The partisanship, however, is rather normal and healthy. To a degree with have lost voices of supposed moderation, that is quite a fair description. Nevertheless, the partisanship is partially a thing of public discussion rather than administrative reality.
 
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Barbbtx said:
None, and that plays in her favor. Washington hasn't corrupted her.
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They didn't have to. She did an excellent job of that all on her own.
 
justabubba said:
trying to figure this one out:

[emphasis added by bubba]

how is palin going to have an "official" trip to israel when she is in charge of nothing?


Palin ‘due in Israel’ for private visit | The Raw Story

i can see it now, bibbi to palin:
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Don't you just love how RAW STORY sticks to the facts without injecting their own bias into their writings?:roll:
Anyway, I don't see the big deal. So she's visiting Israel.
I'm sure Netanyahu will find her to be better company than Obama who left him standing by the trash.

JERUSALEM — Sarah Palin, darling of the US Republican right, is to arrive in Israel at the weekend for a "private visit" during which she will meet Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu, media reports said on Thursday.

A spokesman for the Israeli premier could not immediately confirm a report in the top-selling Yediot Aharonot newspaper that the former Alaska governor was due to arrive on Sunday with her husband Todd for a two-day visit.

The ultra-conservative politician, who was the Republican Party's vice presidential nominee in 2008, is expected to arrive late on Sunday and to meet Netanyahu on Tuesday morning before leaving for the Far East later that day, the paper said.

During the trip, which Israeli parliamentary sources told the paper was "a private visit," Palin is to visit Jerusalem's Old City as well as Christian sites in northern Israel.

The aim of the trip is to become acquainted with Israel ahead of an official visit she is planning in the coming months, Yediot said.

The controversial former governor has emerged as a powerful force in US conservative politics, and speculation is mounting that she will announce a bid to run for the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race.
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Barbbtx said:
Don't you just love how RAW STORY sticks to the facts without injecting their own bias into their writings?:roll:
Anyway, I don't see the big deal. So she's visiting Israel.
I'm sure Netanyahu will find her to be better company than Obama who left him standing by the trash.
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um...what bias did they inject, pelase?
 
Darling sounds sarcastic, ultra-conservative is problematic to say the least, and controversial is accurate but could be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Do you believe Obama hates his country?
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I think he doesn't appreciate her. He's already said she's exceptional, but ruined it when he went on to say other countries were too. He wants to fundamentally transform her, so no, I don't think he loves her.
It's like if he said, sure I think my wife is beautiful, but many husbands think their wives are beautiful too. Therefore my wife is no more beautiful than anyone elses. I also hate my wifes breast size. We can fix that. She needs a nose job and I dislike the way she nags me. She could stand to work out at the gym more too. Her cooking sucks and she snores. Yea, I love my wife, I just wish she was totally different than she is.
That's how I think Obama feels about America.
 
liblady said:
um...what bias did they inject, pelase?
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Oh for cripe sakes. Was is necessary to use words like darling, ultra-conservative and controversial.
When's the last time someone was called ulta-liberal in the media? or a Democrats darling? or even controversial?
 
danarhea said:
They didn't have to. She did an excellent job of that all on her own.
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I've heard a lot of things said about Palin but corrupt isn't one of them.
Is this going to be a new attack I have to look forward to?
 
Barbbtx said:
I've heard a lot of things said about Palin but corrupt isn't one of them.
Is this going to be a new attack I have to look forward to?
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You don't recall the string of suits against Governor Palin during the 2008 election and after? Perhaps worthy of being dropped, but they were not new attacks.
 
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Unfortunately, "intellectual conservative" candidates seem in short supply in the Republican party at the moment.

I wonder, if there were more of that brand of politician on both sides, rather than people like Palin and her counterparts on the Democrat side, if there would be less political divisiveness. It's harder to critique (let alone hate) someone with a nuanced and thoughtful view of a political issue than it is someone who, as the article accuses, relies on "shallow talking points" -- even if that person disagrees with you.
 
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While I like some intellectual politicians who are masters at it, I find the wish for an intellectual candidate exaggerated. Perhaps it is a Democrat and Independent voter thing. I just do not see the allure anymore.
 
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