=Catawba;1059356030]The same ones that were creating them before, and new companies that recognize the need to make products that don't depend on fossil fuels. We have a whole new infrastructure to build as well to replace the one that is now dependent on oil. That is going to require lots of jobs here in this country, not overseas.
Again with the green jobs, while that at some time in the future might become a reality, how are we suppose to last until then? What are we building the infrastructure for, even that hasn't been determined yet. So you are saying that when we decide what that alternate fuel is going to be, and it's developed well enough to be affordable to the public, then we can begin creating all those jobs, so for the next 10 to 15 years, we just keep going downhill? Nice plan, but in my opinion, we need to do something now.
Taxes were cut from 80% to 28% and then raised back up to 38%. That still left 42% of the tax cuts from 1981 in place. We need to cut military spending again. Bush doubled it and started two wars. While I never cared for Clinton, he was the first president since the 1981 tax cuts (they all used SS to offset debt) to have a budget surplus.
I agree as far as the budget goes, he was the best in recent history, but even then, with the cuts, and the tax increases, he still increased our debt by 1.5 trillion dollars. There can be no purer showing of government overspending then during the Clinton years.... and please I'm not just blaming Clinton, Republicans were just as much at fault.
Right, because the rich were still getting their 42% tax break from 1981.
I have never said that spending cuts were going to fix the problem, but just as you keep blaming the tax cuts for the last 30 years, just as much blame belongs on the excessive government spending over the same period of time. So yes “now” we are going to have to raise taxes as well as cut spending. Now everyone is going to have to take a hit, including the rich, middle class and the poor.
It only rose for the rich. The middle class standard of living has declined, and the national debt grew because we no longer had enough revenues to pay the bills. Yes, spending cut have to be made, but spending cuts will not be enough and they will no address the inequality created by the tax cuts for the wealthy.
Well I wasn't talking about individual revenues , I was talking about tax revenues, and during that time our government outspent the increased taxes being collected.
Those that want to leave can leave. My guess is no more will leave than have withdrawn their taxable income already. The middle class survived from 1944 to 1981 with a progressive tax system much better than we have since it was slashed.
Again in my opinion, you might as well face up to it, we are never again going to see taxes anywhere near that 70%.
Without education, there will be no one smart enough to create businesses in the future that can compete with the superior education provided in other countries. We have already fallen to the #9 spot in education.
Well the whole education thing is for another thread, as we now spend more per student (k-12) than anyone else in the world, and our results are dropping. The answer in Washington is the same as it always is, throw even more money at it.
I have researched it as well. We have the most expensive system and other systems are rated higher in serving everyone. Its only the best if you are rich. 1 in 7 Americans are now poor.
See this is why I have problems with liberal thinking, even at the rate of 1 in 7 being poor, that means that 85 percent of the population is receiving quality health care. So why destroy that system? In My opinion, it would be much better to work on our existing system that has served us well for the last 50 years, fix what is broken in it, figure out cost cutting ways to help get those 15% of the people it doesn't serve as well. But no we have to destroy our present system to aid 15% of the people and screw those 85% that it works for .. it just doesn't make sense to me.
What you failed to notice is that half the country has been suffering for years, while the rich got richer.
Well as I can say, is me, my bothers, and our friends have not been suffering in any of the ways you imply. In fact we had prospered in the last 30 years, been smart, invested wisely, didn't over extend ourselves with credit, and are now rising this storm out. It's something called personal responsibility, something that seems to be sorely lacking in this country.
they also pointed out that extending the Bush Tax cuts for the middle class would increase said deficit by $2.2 Trillion.
