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Scott Walker Gets Punked By Journalist Pretending To Be David Koch

whysoserious said:
Perhaps in Wisconsin his lack of ethics may eke by the law, but this also could be a federal issue (as per the link I posted earlier). This cracks me up that this guy conservatives were so proud of has just shown himself to be a corporate shill with no ethical standards at all.
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you can feign your outrage with someone else, I'm not buying the BS.

the real issue of ethics is the teachers faking sickness and the Dr's handing out notes. not to mention law makers fleeing their constituents.

stay gold pony boy
 
pbrauer said:
The Gov. gets punked, too funny. Lets see him explain this away.

Scott Walker Gets Punked By Journalist Pretending To Be David Koch


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3a2pYGr7-k&feature=player_embedded
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Looks like that small Political Rag that allowed one of its reporters to misrepresent themselves as first someone other than they were and next as a hard news journalists when in reality they are more in line with the National Enquirer..most certainly will shortly be owned by the Koch brothers Inc. Only an idiot progressive makes national news of their own intellectual dishonesty...but then again we are speaking of PROGRESSIVE who believes that lying is the same as breathing.

And what is to explain? The governor talking to a political supporter? Not hardly as funny as the PREZ giving an audience to Richard Trumka at least 3 times a week in the middle of this situation. How many millions of dollars has the Prez taken from Trumka and the other union bosses through this money laundering scheme known as UNION DUES?

First, the citizen gets taxed, and with those taxes they pay the salary of the Public Service Union members....then that money is turned around and placed directly into the coffers of the Democrat Campaign fund. Same old tactics being used by these mafia types. The people are being cheated to purchase their own votes with the money conned from them in the first place. Look at the Stimulus Bill, 75% of that total went to keep these public servants 100% employed...and with that salary they pay dues...which gets turned into Campaign Contributes and the membership nor the tax payer gets a say as to how their tax dollars are being spent.

You can tell when the left is losing a battle....they must FAKE something and report it as news. The old tactic of using class warfare will not work this time around as its not some supposed giant evil corporation fat cat the union is attempting to demonize and declare class warfare on....its the PEOPLE who make half as much as these pompous fat cat union members who pay their maffia bosses millions of dollars in CEO salaries. The tables are turned...so they make something up...that is not news in the first place.

Question, what's wrong with any Governor taking a call from someone he was conned into believing was a political supporter when Prez does the same thing almost every day of the week?
 
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pbrauer said:
The Gov. gets punked, too funny. Lets see him explain this away.
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Ahhhh... yes... the Democrats make a run for the border, not for Taco Bell, but from their job to reverse course of the state running an ocean of Red Ink... and the Dems jerk off about a telephone call from one of their journOlists that reveals nothing other than what is already known.

Whatever makes your boat float.

Now you've had your diversion for the day... back to serious business of getting the Ocean of Red under control.

As Obama stated yesterday:
That includes the rights of peaceful assembly, free speech, and the ability of... people to determine their own destiny. These are human rights. They are not negotiable. They must be respected in every country. And they cannot be denied through... suppression.
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That applies to the USA, so Democrats... time to go back to work and cast your votes.

The Dems and their Union buddies on the other hand are all sensitivity, especially after the Arizona Shootings
Democrat urges unions to 'get a little bloody when necessary'
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...r-protests-get-a-little-bloody-when-necessary

Not that their are examples of thuggish Unions having ever behaved this way...

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buck said:
So, you have a far left guy that is researching to determine if a complaint shuld even be filed. In the meantime, Walker was trying to get the bill passed long before this conversation took place and a supposed favor was even offered. And coordination? How were they coordinating again? Walker was talking to someone and telling him how things were going. Anyway, good luck.
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Even though I'm sure that question was asked sarcastically, I'll answer it anyway. Walker's acceptance of a gift for "Crush[ing] these bastards" is iffy legally, but him asking Koch to fund anti-union ads in other states is definitely coordination.
 
disneydude said:
Doing great? By admitting that he was infiltrating people into the crowd in order to propogandize and make the protestors look uncredible?

Why does he need to resort to propoganda?

Do you support that?
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You just told a big fat lie. Shame on you.
 
disneydude said:
Sure...but its the fact that he was even considering it that clearly displays the sleaziness of this governor and the politics that he is willing to engage in...even propoganda.
It also exposes the cozy ties that many of these GOP wingers have with billionaire corporate interests.

No wonder Walker's poll numbers are plummeting.
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Man, if people could get in trouble for everything they thought about doing, we'd all be a world of hurt.:lamo

Also, Walker said he'd never talked to or met either of the Koch brothers. That's why he was easily fooled. He had no idea if they donated to his campaign. He couldn't rule it out because the Koch brothers donated a large sum and part of it could have come to him.
Why do I have the feeling that if this happened to a Dem, the one who would be attacked is the one who made the phone call? It would be things like "Why did he ask him about bringing in infiltraters?" "Is it legal in that state to impersinate someone while talking to a governor?" "Is it legal to record a conversation even if you ask first, if you're not who you say you are" Blah Blah Blah

Oh well, it doesn't matter. Walker did a great job and without the spin some in the news are putting on it, it would be a big plus for him.
 
whysoserious said:
Other than it being completely illegal to talk to campaign donors about party strategy... yeah, he did great. What a corporate shill this guy is. Just like on Dateline when child molesters get busted for having cyber sex with fake underage kids, this is just as illegal as talking to the real Koch about campaign issues.

Why would you defend something so unethical to begin with:

WATCHDOG EXPLORING CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND ETHICS LAW-BREAKING BY SCOTT WALKER DURING FAKE CALL WITH BILLIONAIRE


This guy taking notes from Blagojevich?
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His "strategy" wasn't anything he hadn't said in interviews for all to see and hear.
 
TheBook said:
Even though I'm sure that question was asked sarcastically, I'll answer it anyway. Walker's acceptance of a gift for "Crush[ing] these bastards" is iffy legally, but him asking Koch to fund anti-union ads in other states is definitely coordination.
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And? What is wrong with Coordination of your Core political positions? Only a progressive would even attempt to make a point that suggests that anyone that does not agree with their ideology is somehow committing a crime.

Are you suggesting that the SEIU, OBAMA, the AFL-CIO, are not coordinating their positions by running adds on the web demanding that ALL UNIONS swarm upon the PEOPLE of Wisconsin? The left can have Union Bosses coming to the White House with a revolving door policy...but a CONSERVATIVE Governor cannot communicate with a Conservative Supporter (but Soros publicly donating MILLIONS of dollars to left wing media sites and groups is okie dokie?) ...if conservatives simply talk its a conspiracy but its not when the left gets in bed with these UNION THUGS who have no business in Wisconsin where the teachers are attempting to soak the people of that STATE again?

I fail to see any "GOTCHA MOMENT" except the IDIOTS who are exposing their DISHONEST TACTICS on the national scene for everyone to see just how intellectually dishonest they really are. 2012 is just around the corner....and the Public Service Union has no right to collective bargaining, such was a privilege granted by the same PEOPLE who now realize they can no longer afford such. There is nothing to negotiate. The People of Wisconsin are not the FAT CAT, EVIL CORPORATE BIG WIGS needed to launch a series of CLASS WARFARE attacks upon, in fact the table is reversed...THE PEOPLE see these unions as the fat cats taking advantage of the tax payer when everyone else faces an economic crisis.

Wisconsin is but the 1st state of many as every state in the union is now facing budget shortfalls.
 
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disneydude said:
Scott Walker's poll numbers were already plummeting before this incident...

Scott Walker

It will be interesting to watch them go into even more of a talespin when Wisconsin voters see how slimey and unethical this guy is.
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It's a long time until election. He'll turn it around.
BTW- Blue City Politics? Well, can't be any worse than Soros funded Media Matters:)
 
disneydude said:
Oh puh-lease....he said that it was something that they actively talked about doing...the fact that they later decided not to is irrelevant. An ethical person wouldn't even consider it.
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Puh-leese
He says they had talked about it and decided against it. You say they actively talked about doing it and later decided against it. What next....They had plans in place to do it? Are we going to get back to he did do it? Are you the one who said he did it?
 
Walker was elected to be a hatchet man, which means he was elected to only serve one term. Rick Scott was elected for the same reason.
 
Chappy said:
“I take phone calls all the time.” — Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wisconsin) ​

He probably should revisit that decision. ;)
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Oh GAWD what a biased load of crap. Right off the bat they lied.
MADISON, WI -- Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) held a tense press conference Wednesday afternoon, following the revelation that he had a 20-minute phone conversation with a prank caller pretending to be Republican financier David Koch, a call in which Walker and "Koch" discussed possible ways to disrupt the protests against his budget bill, and to bring the Democrats back to the Capitol.
 
Barbbtx said:
Yea he got arrested for pretending to be someone he was not in a politicians office.
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Only a progressive could expose his crime in the national spotlight and act as if he has accomplished something other than suicide....If Koch wishes to pursue the matter....this enquirer type political rag posing as a news paper will be owned by the Koch Corporation.
 
whysoserious said:
Perhaps in Wisconsin his lack of ethics may eke by the law, but this also could be a federal issue (as per the link I posted earlier). This cracks me up that this guy conservatives were so proud of has just shown himself to be a corporate shill with no ethical standards at all.
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Actually it showed him to be the exact opposite. Sure the left is going to cherry pick a couple things and make them into something they are not.
All in all he said nothing conservatives didn't want to hear.
 
Barbbtx said:
Actually it showed him to be the exact opposite. Sure the left is going to cherry pick a couple things and make them into something they are not.
All in all he said nothing conservatives didn't want to hear.
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What I most enjoy are these idiots attempting to portray THE PEOPLE of WIS(CONED)SIN as some EVIL FAT CAT CORPORATION they can declare class warfare on, the same for all the PEOPLE of other states who have been taxed into economical exhaustion that must now attempt to balance their budgets, as the goose that ****s gold (BIG BROTHER) is now crapped out....there can be no further bail outs when there is no more money. The UNIONS are now being exposed as FAT CAT SOCIALISTS who steal from the people, and they are taking to the streets in panic....just like in GREECE. Its just a matter of time until, as the GREAT CIVILITY LEADER from the great broke back state of Taxachusetts (Capuano)....WE NEED A LITTLE BLOOD IN THE STREET.

http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/...o_get_out_on_the_streets_get_a_little_bloody/
 
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TheBook said:
Even though I'm sure that question was asked sarcastically, I'll answer it anyway. Walker's acceptance of a gift for "Crush[ing] these bastards" is iffy legally, but him asking Koch to fund anti-union ads in other states is definitely coordination.
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Yea, that sounded like a serious offer and serious acceptance between two guys who had never met:roll:
 
Maybe they're back :shock:

Ever check out Trumka? He sure reminds me of a mobster. :2razz:


HowStuffWorks "How the Mafia Works"

One of the most notorious Mafia schemes was the infiltration of labor unions. For several decades, it is believed that every major construction project in New York City was controlled by the Mafia. Mobsters paid off or threatened union leaders to get a piece of the action whenever a union group got a construction job, and they sometimes made their way into the ranks of leadership themselves. And once the Mafia had its grip firmly on a union, it could control an entire industry. Mafioso could get workers to slow or halt construction if contractors or developers didn't make the right payoffs, and they had access to huge union pension funds. At one point, the Mafia could have brought nearly all construction and shipping in the United States to a halt. But the last 20 years have seen the federal government crack down on Mafia-union connections to a great extent.
 
Walter said:
Looks like that small Political Rag that allowed one of its reporters to misrepresent themselves as first someone other than they were and next as a hard news journalists when in reality they are more in line with the National Enquirer..most certainly will shortly be owned by the Koch brothers Inc. Only an idiot progressive makes national news of their own intellectual dishonesty...but then again we are speaking of PROGRESSIVE who believes that lying is the same as breathing.

And what is to explain? The governor talking to a political supporter? Not hardly as funny as the PREZ giving an audience to Richard Trumka at least 3 times a week in the middle of this situation. How many millions of dollars has the Prez taken from Trumka and the other union bosses through this money laundering scheme known as UNION DUES?

First, the citizen gets taxed, and with those taxes they pay the salary of the Public Service Union members....then that money is turned around and placed directly into the coffers of the Democrat Campaign fund. Same old tactics being used by these mafia types. The people are being cheated to purchase their own votes with the money conned from them in the first place. Look at the Stimulus Bill, 75% of that total went to keep these public servants 100% employed...and with that salary they pay dues...which gets turned into Campaign Contributes and the membership nor the tax payer gets a say as to how their tax dollars are being spent.

You can tell when the left is losing a battle....they must FAKE something and report it as news. The old tactic of using class warfare will not work this time around as its not some supposed giant evil corporation fat cat the union is attempting to demonize and declare class warfare on....its the PEOPLE who make half as much as these pompous fat cat union members who pay their maffia bosses millions of dollars in CEO salaries. The tables are turned...so they make something up...that is not news in the first place.

Question, what's wrong with any Governor taking a call from someone he was conned into believing was a political supporter when Prez does the same thing almost every day of the week?
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small Political Rag that allowed one of its reporters to misrepresent themselves as first someone other than they were and next as a hard news journalists when in reality they are more in line with the National Enquirer
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Ah yes, that's James O'Keefe you are talking about, right? It's not? But he did the same thing. Why did you support him misrepresenting himself, and editing a conversation he had at an ACORN office to make it look like a crime had been committed, when it hadn't? Why did you support Andrew Breitbart editing a speech that Shirley Sherrod had made in order to make her look like a racist, which she isn't?

You see, this kind of crap works both ways. I see many on the right supporting these kinds of actions when it's against their opponents on the left, but when it's done to them by the opposition, the faux rage is unbelievable. And yea, the Liberals do the same. So, I have one question to ask. No, make that two, one for the Liberals and another for the Conservatives:

1) To the Conservatives: When are you going to repudiate O'Keefe and Breitbart, and stop supporting him?

2) To the Liberals: When are you going to repudiate what was done to Governor Walker, and stop supporting that?

Come on, folks. You can't have one standard for yourself, and another standard for your opponents. Those who do this kind of crap, are either scumbags who deserved to be shunned by all, or they are heroes to be supported and adored. You can't have it both ways, where some are heroes and others are goats, depending on whether he is a Democrat or Republican. That's hyperpartisan BS. But, in the end, I am sure that some are going to tell me that what I am posting is BS, and explain to me the circumstances in which they CAN have it both ways, and how it's only right that SOME people who do this are heroes, and others are goats, depending on political affiliation. Believe me. I DO want to hear this, just for the LULZ I will get from it. So who wants to go first? :mrgreen:

In short, if you supported your own people doing crap like this, then just STFU when it's the other way around.
 
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danarhea said:
Ah yes, that's James O'Keefe you are talking about, right? It's not? But he did the same thing. Why did you support him misrepresenting himself, and editing a conversation he had at an ACORN office to make it look like a crime had been committed, when it hadn't? Why did you support Andrew Breitbart editing a speech that Shirley Sherrod had made in order to make her look like a racist, which she isn't?

You see, this kind of crap works both ways. I see many on the right supporting these kinds of actions when it's against their opponents on the left, but when it's done to them by the opposition, the faux rage is unbelievable. And yea, the Liberals do the same. So, I have one question to ask. No, make that two, one for the Liberals and another for the Conservatives:

1) To the Conservatives: When are you going to repudiate O'Keefe and Breitbart, and stop supporting him?

2) To the Liberals: When are you going to repudiate what was done to Governor Walker, and stop supporting that?

Come on, folks. You can't have one standard for yourself, and another standard for your opponents. Those who do this kind of crap, are either scumbags who deserved to be shunned by all, or they are heroes to be supported and adored. You can't have it both ways, where some are heroes and others are goats, depending on whether he is a Democrat or Republican. That's hyperpartisan BS. But, in the end, I am sure that some are going to tell me that what I am posting is BS, and explain to me the circumstances in which they CAN have it both ways, and how it's only right that SOME people who do this are heroes, and others are goats, depending on political affiliation. Believe me. I DO want to hear this, just for the LULZ I will get from it. So who wants to go first? :mrgreen:

In short, if you supported your own people doing crap like this, then just STFU when it's the other way around.
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:mrgreen:

There's going to be some hardcore partisan nit-picking going on here.
 
danarhea said:
You see, this kind of crap works both ways. I see many on the right supporting these kinds of actions when it's against their opponents on the left, but when it's done to them by the opposition, the faux rage is unbelievable. And yea, the Liberals do the same. So, I have one question to ask. No, make that two, one for the Liberals and another for the Conservatives:

1) To the Conservatives: When are you going to repudiate O'Keefe and Breitbart, and stop supporting him?

2) To the Liberals: When are you going to repudiate what was done to Governor Walker, and stop supporting that?
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Yeah I was pretty amazed that a conservative actually said: You can tell when the left is losing a battle....they must FAKE something and report it as news. How long ago was that Planned Parenthood infiltration story? We just got done talking about it and now conservatives are claiming that pretending to be someone you aren't in order to expose your opponent is solely a liberal tactic? As a left-leaning American, let me get in line and say that this whole "call up your enemy and pretend to be a friend" thing is BS journalism. It's fine for a prank, but this guy was supposedly trying to report a story, and tricking somebody into taking a personal phone call immediately makes any information gained virtually useless. It would be one thing if Walker had admitted to some grand conspiracy or referenced a secret tactic or a transexual prostitute, but this was a pretty ambiguous conversation.

The call does further my distaste for Walker. He's awfully comfortable having a lengthy and friendly conversation with somebody urging him to crush the innocent people who wholeheartedly disagree with what's happening in that state. What a typical jerk. And I think that Barb's comment that Walker didn't know Koch donated to his campaign is ridiculous. That's like you not knowing how you got home last night.
 
danarhea said:
2) To the Liberals: When are you going to repudiate what was done to Governor Walker, and stop supporting that?
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Let me quote myself:

Redress said:
Zyphlin kinda makes an important point here. Not sure if it is the point he was going for, but it's still an important point. It is sad when people have to go around pretending to be others to gather information to hurt their opponents. It's sad when done by some on the right to go after their targets, and it is equally sad here. We should be condemning any one who stoops to these types of tactics, on either side. How you win is just as important as winning.
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danarhea said:
1) To the Conservatives: When are you going to repudiate O'Keefe and Breitbart, and stop supporting him?
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I'm not a fan of Breitbart, and generally am not fond of entrapment situations. That said, as I've said on all sorts of issues, the world isn't black and white. There is a different level of dislike with regards to directly misrepresenting yourself as a specific person and something eneric.

For example, in this case, if the person just put himself forth as a wealthy republican donor rather than attempting to impersonate a specific person I'd have less of an issue with his action. Still not "no" issue, and I wasn't completely without issue with Breitbart's guy either, but I think pretending to be a specific factual person is a bit worse than a more generalized deception as you're not just assuming a new identity but stealing someone elses essentially.

I think often you have to look at what is being uncovered as well, as again things don't function in a vacuum. For example, if what he did on the phone regarding donors was an actual legitimate breakage of the law (and not just some left wing blogger speculating it MIGHT be) then I have far more issues with him because he actually did something illegal. On the flip side, a lot of what he said is as likely to be bluff and bluster as legitiamte strategy and until he actually ATTEMPTS it its not something I would get upset about. This is in part why I'm not fond of these type of styled "stings" when its just to get information, because the fact the information is being gained in a fraudulent way causes the legitimacy, hoensty, and seriousness of things it finds out to be called into question thus making it more useful for propoganda than any kind of honest reporting.
 
danarhea said:
1) To the Conservatives: When are you going to repudiate O'Keefe and Breitbart, and stop supporting him?

2) To the Liberals: When are you going to repudiate what was done to Governor Walker, and stop supporting that?

Come on, folks. You can't have one standard for yourself, and another standard for your opponents.
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I support both... it's fair for O'Keefe to do it and it was fair when these bloggers did it to Walker. Difference is, the O'Keefe stuff actually found out very damning truths, and it's reverberations were felt all the way to Washington --- so much so ACORN no longer exists. The Walker phone call --- was boring, nothing really new here and he's said everything on that phone call that he's said in public to the press.

It's a fair tactic no matter who does it.
 
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