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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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I have read the history, and I lived through it. Where is the causation, or even a correlation, that shows tax cuts to the wealthy have improved our economy since they were slashed 30 years ago?

By that logic, would you propose doing away with the earned income credit?
 
A return to the progressive taxes that served the country so well during the 50 year period when we had the best economy with the least debt for the most Americans.

Do you need someone to read the post of mine that laid out how much the rich are paying according to the IRS? We have a progressive tax rate skewed to the top earners. Think it is fair that 47% of income earners don't pay any Federal Income Taxes? Here it is again, read it and understand it. 38% of all tax revenue comes from the top income earners.

The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all taxes.
The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all taxes.
The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all taxes.

The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all taxes.

Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.
 
Serfdom? Well, maybe not, but conditions are problematic. As noted above, the gap is growing.

It's a sign that we're free to prosper, and getting increasingly better at it. How is that anything but good?

And if we have to match wages and benefits of third world countries to keep business here, well, . . . do we really want that?

That's unreal. You know what happens when foreign nations open up serious investment with the U.S. right? The exact opposite.

The top trade cities in India or China end up being the first to get modernized and end up with rates much closer to market rates than the rest of their respective nations, and eventually that spreads. Same with culture and their influence on our culture and vice-versa. It's a wonderful thing. We RAISE nations up with free trade in a free market. We'd do this until none are left to raise up, and then what? We'd all be at market rates.

The doomsday scenario you want to lesiglate from is non-existent, and as such, is dangerous.

And that goes for conservatives too. Every time you try protectionist crap, the U.S. is going to be the big loser. Let our ambitious people be free to stake a U.S. claim in any market we can. Else, someone else will.
 
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Out of the top ten political donors in 2010, seven were corporate donors for conservatives and three were union donors for democrats. Remove the Unions from the picture and where does that leave us?

I'm waiting...
 
Do you need someone to read the post of mine that laid out how much the rich are paying according to the IRS? We have a progressive tax rate skewed to the top earners. Think it is fair that 47% of income earners don't pay any Federal Income Taxes? Here it is again, read it and understand it. 38% of all tax revenue comes from the top income earners.

The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all taxes.
The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all taxes.
The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all taxes.

The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all taxes.

Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.

But...that's different.
 
Nice strawman, now look again at what I claimed. "Out of the top ten political donors in 2010, seven were corporate donors for conservatives and three were union donors for democrats. Remove the Unions from the picture and where does that leave us?

2010 was a Presidential election year?

2008 results, so much for Obama being for the little guy

Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets
 
What is stopping Buffet from paying more in taxes, just write the check?

So you want teachers and the rest of us in the working class to work for peanuts with high taxes, but have a voluntary tax for the rich????
 
So you want teachers and the rest of us in the working class to work for peanuts with high taxes, but have a voluntary tax for the rich????

Suggest you learn to read, Warren Buffet can pay whatever amount he wants over and above what he is obligated to pay so instead of whining about paying too little why not just write a check for more?

Currently 47% of income earners didn't pay ANY Federal Income taxes and all are under 50,000 per year. Your class warfare rhetoric is empty just like the empty suit in the WH.
 
And what happened after the corporations found out that Obama was serious about cutting their corporate welfare? That is my point. Which party is it that is defending continued tax cuts to the top income earners?

You are a lost cause, have a good one. I live in a much different country than you do. People in this country earn money, companies make money, the govt. earns nothing. It is the taxpayers' money first. Not sure where you went to school but please let us all know so we can warn others. There is absolutely nothing independent in your leanings.
 
Do you need help reading what is happening in the real world?

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary

I'm thiking that Buffet's probably full-a-**** on that one. Anyone that has made enough money to know longer qualify for the earned income creadit would agree.

Warren is either lieing his ass off, or he's doing some serious cheating, or his secretary is making one ****load of money.

I think where the street Libbos are getting fooled, is that you're not going to hurt billionares with tax hikes. You're going to hurt the folks that are between the earned income credit folks and the billionares with tax hikes; leaving two groups when the dust settles: the billionares with all their money and political clout and all us poor folks.
 
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Warren Buffet can pay whatever amount he wants over and above what he is obligated to pay so instead of whining about paying too little why not just write a check for more?

Great, a voluntary tax for the the wealthiest and go after the working class to make up the difference.
 
So, 88.1% of workers in the United States are on the road to serfdom? Oh, pullleeeeeze.

There is no doubt about it. If the right wing corporatists combine with the anti-government crowd - its going to be very very bad for America unless we an stop this and stop it now.
 
I live in a much different country than you do.

Yes, you most certainly do. You live in a country that worships those that carried out the greatest redistribution of wealth in our history and castigates the working class just trying to survive in the post Reagan economy.
 
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You should really the Road to Serfdom

Being on the Road to Serfdom would do me good!!!!!!!! That is one of the most amazing things i have ever read here.

No thank you. I will attempt to stay off that road as best I can.
 
I'm thiking that Buffet's probably full-a-**** on that one. Anyone that has made enough money to know longer qualify for the earned income creadit would agree.

Warren is either lieing his ass off, or he's doing some serious cheating, or his secretary is making one ****load of money.

I think where the street Libbos are getting fooled, is that you're not going to hurt billionares with tax hikes. You're going to hurt the folks that are between the earned income credit folks and the billionares with tax hikes; leaving two groups when the dust settles: the billionares with all their money and political clout and all us poor folks.

So you are still waiting to be trickled on? I discovered that was a crock 30 years ago, but you keep waiting if it suits you.
 
So you are still waiting to be trickled on? I discovered that was a crock 30 years ago, but you keep waiting if it suits you.

Do you even understand what trickle down economics is?

I'm in the trucking business. When I needed a tire replaced, or fixed, I would call a guy that has his own tire service business and pay him $80 a wheel to take care of it, for me. Since The Messiah killed the oilfield, I have to do my own tire work, because I can't afford to pay that tire man to do it for me. That's $80 he doesn't have in his pocket, anymore.

One of my trailers blew an airbag last week. A few years ago, I would have sent my driver to the shop and paid $200 in labor to get it fixed; that's trickle down economics. Now, I have to keep that $200 in my pocket and fix it myself.

Before The Messiah killed the oilfield, the oil companies had to call on me to haul their equipment, because they're in the oil business, not the trucking business. When they called me, I got paid. I had to pay drivers to drive the trucks and I paid them. That's trickle down economics.

I think that you garden variety Libbos are just incapable of, "getting it".

What do you do for a living? Do you even have a job??
 
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Being on the Road to Serfdom would do me good!!!!!!!! That is one of the most amazing things i have ever read here.

No thank you. I will attempt to stay off that road as best I can.

By continueing to feed from the trough that is constantly filled with corn, bought with taxpayer dollars. Yes?
 
By continueing to feed from the trough that is constantly filled with corn, bought with taxpayer dollars. Yes?

What in heavens name are you talking about?
 
Nice strawman, now look again at what I claimed. "Out of the top ten political donors in 2010, seven were corporate donors for conservatives and three were union donors for democrats. Remove the Unions from the picture and where does that leave us?

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

Let me try one more time. YOU'RE WRONG. Read the link. The top ten donors or "heavy hitters" supplied billions to both parties, but tilted democrat in ALL the top ten entities except TWO, which tilted evenly to both sides. The majority of the top ten were not just tilting a little bit towards the democrats, they were tilting A LOT. It figures. The moral and political agenda of a democrat uses far more governmental interventionist powers than the republican. And big business or a big union LOVES an interventionist central government.
 
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Being on the Road to Serfdom would do me good!!!!!!!! That is one of the most amazing things i have ever read here.

No thank you. I will attempt to stay off that road as best I can.

Actually, I made a typo. But luckily enough for me, my typo reveals a trait of ignorance on your part. I meant to say, "you should really read the Road to Serfdom." Unfortunately, you've never heard (and therefore never read or anything about) the Road to Serfdom, one of the most famous works by one of the most famous (and Nobel laureate) economists, Friedrich Hayek. Hayek, I can only imagined, possessed far different from your own. Being that you continue to battle the general economic foundation of your political opponents, you haven't the slightest idea where it originated and/or what it even means.

I've read Keyne's General Theory. Hopefully you're a prepared enough leftist who is actually read the original work concerning the foundation of leftist (pro-government interventionist) economics. If you haven't read either book, you're just a hollow man regurgitating the statements and opinions of others.
 
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