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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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I read the statement. It is the same tripe that you have been bending over backwards begging people to look at. It is simply irrelevant. As is your constant whining about the same thing in post after post after post.

It is irrelevant that Wisconsin state workers have better benefits and wages than Federal Union employees? Is it irrelevant that Walker is not taking away collective bargaining rights for wages? It appears to me that anything that refutes your misinformation regarding the Wisconsin issues is irrelevant.
 
Be careful what you wish for!

Oh if I got what I wished for history classes would be discussing why the Supreme Court struck down the New Deal and why Goldwater got us out of Vietnam with very few losses
 
It is right wing psycho babble that means nothing. It has been explained to you over and over and over again but you refuse to accept it.

[B]Federalism. [/B]
 
It is right wing psycho babble that means nothing. It has been explained to you over and over and over again but you refuse to accept it.

[B]Federalism. [/B]

Why don't you explain Federalism to Obama then. He has no business inserting himself into Wisconsin politics and quite frankly neither do you.
 
Oh if I got what I wished for history classes would be discussing why the Supreme Court struck down the New Deal and why Goldwater got us out of Vietnam with very few losses

If I got what I wished for reality would rule message boards like this instead of right wing fantasy and libertarian wet dreams.
 
Why don't you explain Federalism to Obama then. He has no business inserting himself into Wisconsin politics and quite frankly neither do you.

Are you really that ignorant of the rights of an American citizen? Does Freedom of Speech mean anything to you?
 
If I got what I wished for reality would rule message boards like this instead of right wing fantasy and libertarian wet dreams.

such a wish would be anathema to your continued posting
 
Are you really that ignorant of the rights of an American citizen? Does Freedom of Speech mean anything to you?

I love freedom of speech

its the left who attacks it with the "Fairness doctrine" and limiting people-through corporations-from speaking freely
 
I love freedom of speech

its the left who attacks it with the "Fairness doctrine" and limiting people-through corporations-from speaking freely

News flash for you
1- there is no fairness doctrine.
2- what the heck are you talking about?
 
Are you really that ignorant of the rights of an American citizen? Does Freedom of Speech mean anything to you?

LOL, I love employees of state politicians inserting themselves into another states' political situation and claiming it is a freedom of speech issue. Looks to me like you are very biased on this issue and should fully disclose who you work for and what state
 
such a wish would be anathema to your continued posting

Well it would certainly take a whole lot of fun out of it. I admit that. But the acceptable loss of amusement would be more than made up by a restoration of sanity to these discussions.
 
LOL, I love employees of state politicians inserting themselves into another states' political situation and claiming it is a freedom of speech issue. Looks to me like you are very biased on this issue and should fully disclose who you work for and what state

As expected. You really do not have any understanding of Constitutional rights.
 
News flash for you
1- there is no fairness doctrine.
2- what the heck are you talking about?

1) thank God but the lefties want it back
2) libs constantly want to prevent corporations (ie the people who own them) from giving money to candidates

that's a form of free speech
 
As expected. You really do not have any understanding of Constitutional rights.

Lets debate constitutional rights Haymarket
you don't believe in natural rights do you?
 
1) thank God but the lefties want it back
2) libs constantly want to prevent corporations (ie the people who own them) from giving money to candidates

that's a form of free speech

Where is the verifiable evidence which backs up claim #2?
 
Lets debate constitutional rights Haymarket
you don't believe in natural rights do you?

What are natural rights? Which amendment are they listed in? My copy of the Constitution is old and tattered and worn for all my use with it over the years doing research.
 
Where is the verifiable evidence which backs up claim #2?

so its NOT lefties who whine about the Supremes 5-4 decision in the CU case
 
From what I have seen not many Democrats or public union employees understand election results.

Trying to switch the subject --- yet again. Its a habit of yours when you are getting beat on some issue.
 
What are natural rights? Which amendment are they listed in? My copy of the Constitution is old and tattered and worn for all my use with it over the years doing research.

well if you did the research properly you would know the premises upon which the founders were basing their creation upon

I sort of doubt teachers belonging to dem supporting unions would want to teach that to children
 
well if you did the research properly you would know the premises upon which the founders were basing their creation upon

I sort of doubt teachers belonging to dem supporting unions would want to teach that to children

was there an answer and a definition in there somewhere?

nope.

and before this goes any further - this topic should NOT be allowed to hijack this thread. Start another thread on the topic and I will participate in it tomorrow.
 
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was there an answer and a definition in there somewhere?

nope.

so you think a proper understanding of the constitution is devoid of parole evidence?
 
Wisconsin voters express buyers remorse

"(Reuters) - Wisconsin voters would narrowly favor Governor Scott Walker's Democratic opponent if the November, 2010 election were repeated, according to partial poll results released on Monday.

Walker has stirred national debate and the largest demonstrations in Wisconsin since the Vietnam War with his proposal to strip public sector unions of most collective bargaining rights.

Walker won the November 2, 2010 election 52 to 46 percent for Democrat Tom Barrett, with the remainder of the vote to minor candidates.

Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina said a new poll showed if the election were replayed now, the result would be almost exactly flipped, with Democrat Tom Barrett getting 52 percent and Walker 45 percent, with four percent not sure.

The shift in voter sentiment away from Walker was attributed to households with at least one union member, the polling group said. More details of the poll will be released on Tuesday.

The poll surveyed 768 Wisconsin voters from February 24 to 27. Those surveyed were also asked how they voted in the November election and 47 percent said for Walker and 47 percent for Barrett."
Wisconsin voters would shift to Democrat in new election: poll | Reuters

ppp is a dem pollster
 
The American people in solid opposition to what Walker is trying to do in Wisconsin

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/us/01poll.html?_r=1

Essentially, the way CBS and the Times got the survey to produce the result was to over-sample union and public employee households. Only seven percent of the private sector workforce is unionized, but among the 984 people interviewed for the survey, 20 percent identified themselves and/or somebody in their household as union members.

Similarly, government employees approximately 10 percent of the national workforce, yet the survey respondents include an unrealistically high proportion of public employees, at 25 percent of the total.

CBS News/New York Times survey oversampled union households | Mark Tapscott | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

bottom line: how can the american people be in solid support when even ANDREW CUOMO and MOONBEAM BROWN aren't

the gubs of blue bastions ny and ca are, indeed, about to SLASH

what's gonna happen to the seiu's and afscme's after public payroll gets CHOPPED

union dues, campaign contributions, political clout...

who's gonna counter the kochs
 
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