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Before banning 'crosshairs,' CNN used it to refer to Palin, Bachmann

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Before banning 'crosshairs,' CNN used it to refer to Palin, Bachmann


NN's John King is attracting a lot of notice -- and some ridicule -- in the blogosphere for his on-air apology after a guest used the word "crosshairs" during a report on Chicago politics Tuesday. (The guest, a former Chicago reporter, referred to two rivals of mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel, saying Emanuel is "in both of their crosshairs.") "We were just having a discussion about the Chicago mayoral race," King told viewers. "My friend Andy Shaw…used the term 'in the crosshairs' in talking about the candidates out there. We're trying, we're trying to get away from that language. Andy is a good friend, he's covered politics for a long time, but we're trying to get away from using that kind of language. We won't always be perfect, so hold us accountable when we don't meet your standards."

King's statement comes after widespread discussion of whether Sarah Palin's now-infamous "crosshairs" map targeting vulnerable Democratic candidates in last November's elections somehow caused the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson January 8. There has been plenty of that kind of speculation on CNN, including on Tuesday, the day of John King's statement, when one brief discussion of Palin used the word "crosshairs" five times.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: Before banning 'crosshairs,' CNN used it to refer to Palin, Bachmann | Byron York | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner



hypocrisy? irony? :lol:


I'd like to see those folks in the other thread who attacked that stupid palin map, say the same things here.
 
hypocrisy? irony? :lol:


I'd like to see those folks in the other thread who attacked that stupid palin map, say the same things here.

How ridiculous....making a guest the target of ridicule, putting a bulleye on his back for critics to attack, for using the term "crosshairs." Wait. Sorry...
 
How ridiculous....making a guest the target of ridicule, putting a bulleye on his back for critics to attack, for using the term "crosshairs." Wait. Sorry...



CNN apologizes for using term ‘crosshairs’ – Glenn Beck

Glenn revealed that unbeknownst to most of the country, CNN aired a show called “Crossfire” from 1982 to 2005. Can we now hold them responsible for Gul War 1, Gulf War 2, and all the innocent victims of violence of over two decades of violence? (note to Media Matters – we don’t really believe CNN is responsible for all violence from 1982-2005. The odds are very slim anyone was watching)Glenn’s response to CNN’s apology? “Here’s the message the media needs to have. You want to know how we’re successful? You watch because we’re about to become even more successful. Because we’re not going to treat our viewers, our listeners, our readers like morons.”
Who else should follow CNN’s lead? How about Warner Brothers and “Looney Tunes”?
Glenn joked, “Warner Brothers should step up to the plate and apologize for Yosemite Sam. We should not have the violent Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd’s walking around with a gun and he’s trying to shoot the rabbit.”
Pat added, “He shot Daffy duck’s face off multiple times
How about Microsoft Word? As Stu pointed out, the software program that is used in most offices across the country actually allows you to create a “bulleted list”!
 
Poor Libbos. This stuff always come back around to bite them in the ass.
 
The absurd lengths right wingers are going to to attempt to justify the irresponsible actions and remarks from Palin are simply astounding. Palin apologists should check the CNN poll from yesterday and you will see that she is falling faster than a rock after her activities of late. Some here may go through elaborate mental gymnastics to try to justify the unjustifiable, but the American people seem to have this one right.
 
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The absurd lengths right wingers are going to to attempt to justify the irresponsible actions and remarks from Palin are simply astounding. Palin apologists should check the CNN poll from yesterday and you will see that she is falling faster than a rock after her activities of late. Some here may go through elaborate mental gymnastics to try to justify the unjustifiable, but the American people seem to have this one right.

:lol: You're using a poll by CNN to get a rating on a conservative politician?

And you honestly believe that pictures of crosshairs and guns caused a person to empty a gun into a crowd of people? :lamo
 
:lol: You're using a poll by CNN to get a rating on a conservative politician?

And you honestly believe that pictures of crosshairs and guns caused a person to empty a gun into a crowd of people? :lamo

Apparently. This ongoing 'evil conservative conspiracy' bs is getting old.
 
The absurd lengths right wingers are going to to attempt to justify the irresponsible actions and remarks from Palin are simply astounding. Palin apologists should check the CNN poll from yesterday and you will see that she is falling faster than a rock after her activities of late. Some here may go through elaborate mental gymnastics to try to justify the unjustifiable, but the American people seem to have this one right.

What I find unfortunate isn't necessarily all the defense, but the way they feel they have license to attack any who criticize her in any way. The choice here seems to be that you either defend her irresponsible behavior or have to put up with being called a "political hack", "dishonest", or maligned in any of a number of other ways. Heck, I have been attacked by being compared to a thief, among other things, as the sheer desperation of those with an agenda is pretty clear.

This entire 'It's just a little map" is copping a plea. We all know it ISN'T just the map, but the "lock and load comments", the smirks at her followers as they call out to kill Obama at her rallies, the references in regards to the "take out" of opponants that accompany various militant graphics, and the veritable orgy of rhetoric referencing the talking up of arms. If a person cannot criticize the shameless demagoguery of those who are appealing to nothing but base emotion instead of reason, we are all the worse for it, and I'm getting pretty fed up with these accusations that a person is a "political hack" if they reject the political hackery of Sarah Palin and what she represents.
 
What I find unfortunate isn't necessarily all the defense, but the way they feel they have license to attack any who criticize her in any way. The choice here seems to be that you either defend her irresponsible behavior or have to put up with being called a "political hack", "dishonest", or maligned in any of a number of other ways. Heck, I have been attacked by being compared to a thief, among other things, as the sheer desperation of those with an agenda is pretty clear.

This entire 'It's just a little map" is copping a plea. We all know it ISN'T just the map, but the "lock and load comments", the smirks at her followers as they call out to kill Obama at her rallies, the references in regards to the "take out" of opponants that accompany various militant graphics, and the veritable orgy of rhetoric referencing the talking up of arms. If a person cannot criticize the shameless demagoguery of those who are appealing to nothing but base emotion instead of reason, we are all the worse for it, and I'm getting pretty fed up with these accusations that a person is a "political hack" if they reject the political hackery of Sarah Palin and what she represents.

Anyone that thinks Palin is directly, or even indirectly, responsible for the violence that became the Safeway shootout, is as weak minded--perhaps moreso--than the person that did the shooting.
 
The absurd lengths right wingers are going to to attempt to justify the irresponsible actions and remarks from Palin are simply astounding. Palin apologists should check the CNN poll from yesterday and you will see that she is falling faster than a rock after her activities of late. Some here may go through elaborate mental gymnastics to try to justify the unjustifiable, but the American people seem to have this one right.

The reason Palin's graphics are indefensible is because Giffords asked her to take it down some time ago. Without that having happened, this would be a nonstory. Or have you forgotten about freedom of speech, at the very least?

One wonderful thing that's happened from this incident's fallout is that she's no longer a contenda.
 
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hypocrisy? irony? :lol:


I'd like to see those folks in the other thread who attacked that stupid palin map, say the same things here.

I see this whole crosshair thing as an insincere fad. I don't really know if it can be chalked up to hypocracy as much as its just some flavor of the month that we will soon forget about.
 
I see this whole crosshair thing as an insincere fad. I don't really know if it can be chalked up to hypocracy as much as its just some flavor of the month that we will soon forget about.

There are Democrats already referring to the Republicans as Nazis, on the house floor, so I'm sure this civility craze won't last long.
 
There are Democrats already referring to the Republicans as Nazis, on the house floor, so I'm sure this civility craze won't last long.

I never expected it too either honestly. We have too many in our culture who are not willing to compromise for the good of the whole.
 
I never expected it too either honestly. We have too many in our culture who are not willing to compromise for the good of the whole.

And thank God for that.
 
Anyone that thinks Palin is directly, or even indirectly, responsible for the violence that became the Safeway shootout, is as weak minded--perhaps moreso--than the person that did the shooting.

What is weak minded is making that leap of logic necessary in accusing those who criticize Palin's militant rhetoric as somehow indicating some sort of direct causality. Such extreme simplification indicates a simplistic approach to a complex issue.
 
What is weak minded is making that leap of logic necessary in accusing those who criticize Palin's militant rhetoric as somehow indicating some sort of direct causality. Such extreme simplification indicates a simplistic approach to a complex issue.

Anyone who call's Palin's rhetoric, "militant", and doesn't criticise even more violent rhetoric coming from the opposite side of the political fence is probably more weak minded than Jared Loughner.
 
I'm getting hungry for french fries.:confused:

I just can't make up my mind if I want catsup or ketchup on them
 
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