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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

why is this such an issue? why not just shut everyone up and show the damn thing? I have my original birth cert in a safe deposit box along with marriage certs, dd214s, birth certs for all my kids, etc and if asked I could produce the original or a certified copy within hours.

That would make to damn much sense. Or, Obama doesn't have an actual brith certificate.

Purdy much the only two choices in this matter.
 
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It actually exists in the archives


Now, which part of that is hard to understand? Not getting something done that will take some unkown amount of time done on a random specific date is in no way an indicator of any type of failure, nor is it in this case any kind of vindication of idiot birthers.

Ok...Abercrombie oughta be producing it very soon. Yes?

BTW, who has to go to the state archives to find their BC?
 
Did he mention a deadline? If not, or if he did and we have not reached it, this whole thing is especially retarded.

Well, you got one part right. :lamo
 
Birthers never go away. But without them, who would we make fun of? :coffeepap

Jet, start another pot will ya?

You, you're made fun of all the time. :lol:
 
Unless he is COURT ORDERED to release it - showing us the certificate is NOT Abercrombie's decision, call or right.

That is Obama's PERSONAL business and only with his PERMISSION can it be shown.

So "it's in an archive" is EXACTLY where a certificate should be - it should not be unfiled and plastered over the world just because SOME people demand it.

He really just needs to keep quiet, refer to it as a matter to be decided by the courts, and state the fact that it's NOT HIS CALL.
 
Unless he is COURT ORDERED to release it - showing us the certificate is NOT Abercrombie's decision, call or right.

That is Obama's PERSONAL business and only with his PERMISSION can it be shown.

So "it's in an archive" is EXACTLY where a certificate should be - it should not be unfiled and plastered over the world just because SOME people demand it.

He really just needs to keep quiet, refer to it as a matter to be decided by the courts, and state the fact that it's NOT HIS CALL.


all true, which makes Abercrombie a freakin retard for saying he could produce the document. which is, of course, the point we have been making all along.

don't make promises you can't keep, it makes you look foolish
 
Unless he is COURT ORDERED to release it - showing us the certificate is NOT Abercrombie's decision, call or right.

That is Obama's PERSONAL business and only with his PERMISSION can it be shown.

So "it's in an archive" is EXACTLY where a certificate should be - it should not be unfiled and plastered over the world just because SOME people demand it.

He really just needs to keep quiet, refer to it as a matter to be decided by the courts, and state the fact that it's NOT HIS CALL.

Be that as it may, Abercrombie shot his mouth off about it and if he doesn't show, he's going to make himself and Obama look like dumb ****s. The birfers will be all ovr it. He didn't do anything but give them more ammo--oops, I said ammo.

I think the silly sum-bitch shoulda just left it alone. Since he's too stupid not to, I'm going to make fun of him.
 
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Now, which part of that is hard to understand?

So where is it? Whip it out and shut up these birthers then... oh wait... he doesn't know where it is... it's in some place called "the archive". Yeah, and I have a 1 billion dollar bill in a book somewhere in my attic in my "archive" too. :lamo
 
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As understand it, all long-form birth certificates and hospital birth records were transferred into electronic record form. I would assume the old hard copy records were destroyed after reprint in their new legal format under the law. You'd probably have to inquire to the Hawaii Dept. of Public Health to find out. :shrug:

So, then what were the 'original vital records on file' that the director of the DOH used to confirm that obama was born there? And, since she consulted the AG's office before she made the statement, why hasn't those document been made public under Hawaii statute 28-3?

Like I said, you'd have to inquire to the Hawaii Dept. of Public Health to find out.
 
Be that as it may, Abercrombie shot his mouth off about it and if he doesn't show, he's going to make himself and Obama look like dumb ****s. The birfers will be all ovr it. He didn't do anything but give them more ammo--oops, I said ammo.

I think the silly sum-bitch shoulda just left it alone. Since he's too stupid not to, I'm going to make fun of him.

Yep.

It started when he tried to make it a personal venture - claiming to know the Obama family well, and going on about his emotional connection and how it's offensive to him that some people will question their say-so. . . and on and on.

Everything was fine until he stirred the pot.
 
I understand Ambercrombie's personal position here. He's right on both counts:

1) The birth-right credibility of the son of a family friend who now happens to be the President of the United States is being dragged through the mud. He wants to do what he can now that he's governor of the state where the son was born to help clear his name. A noble jester, but as folks have already stated he probably should have just let this sleeping dog lay.

2) He knows that if this matter isn't resolved before the run-up to the 2012 presidential primaries questions of the President's birth will just resurface in earnest.

But as I said in a previous post, those who really don't believe Pres. Obama was born here will never be satisfied no matter what evidence is provided that goes contrary to their doubts not even if they can see it, touch it, smell it, or even taste his actual vital records in hard copy form. No matter what, there will be those who still cry foul.

The way I see it, providing achieved information would be great, but ultimately this is an exercise in frutility. Whether Gov. Ambercrobie finds concrete evidence of Pres. Obama's birth and holds a nation press conference presenting said evidence or not won't change the mind of those who don't like Pres. Obama anyway.

As I've said several times before, until someone can provide solid proof that he wasn't born here, as far as I'm concerned he is eligible to be President of the United States of America. And yes, such evidence would likely include Gov. Ambercrombie coming out and saying that the records his predecessor had sealed are NOT valid documents. IMO, that would be the smoking gun! Unseal the records, tell us what's inside. A simple matter of his powers as Hawaii's new governor.
 
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Yep.

It started when he tried to make it a personal venture - claiming to know the Obama family well, and going on about his emotional connection and how it's offensive to him that some people will question their say-so. . . and on and on.

Everything was fine until he stirred the pot.

There's a lesson in this .... and it goes to the cliche of "let sleeping dogs lie".
 
It's fun watching birthers make fools of themselves, all the while claiming they are not really birthers.
 
It's fun watching birthers make fools of themselves, all the while claiming they are not really birthers.

abercrombie is the one who is making a fool of himself in this instance. shoulda kept his freakin mouth shut.
 
It's fun watching birthers make fools of themselves, all the while claiming they are not really birthers.

It's also fun watching dumb politicians like Abercrombie stir up the **** pot and fail miserably...
 
It's fun watching birthers make fools of themselves, all the while claiming they are not really birthers.

How can you tell who is a birther in this thread and who isn't?

I think that there have been 'answers' - Supreme court said "thanks but no thanks, we won't be touching this one" and Congress passed legislation that contained language which confirmed Obama as a US citizen.

What's the point of people pushing it whether they believe the conspiracy or not? When the two venues of resolution both already made a decision and people don't want to accept those decisions then what?

No matter what was proven, what has been said - some people will never stop their banter regardless of what they're actually bantering on about.
 
A piece of paper has been shown that is proof in a court of law that Obama is a US citizen.

If you are asked if Obama was born in the US, and your answer is something other than "Yes," you're either horribly uninformed or a birther.

Hell, the birth announcement in the paper alone should be enough for anybody sane.
 
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A piece of paper has been shown that is proof in a court of law that Obama is a US citizen.

If you are asked if Obama was born in the US, and your answer is something other than "Yes," you're either horribly uninformed or a birther.

Hell, the birth announcement in the paper alone should be enough for anybody sane.


agree with everything except the last statement. a birth announcement in the paper is worth dick.
 
Hawaii Gov. can't find Obama's birth certificate

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

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The Obama Birthers are going to have a field day with this one.
 
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The Obama Birthers are going to have a field day with this one.

they already are. duplicate thread.
 
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