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EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

I posted an article about it already in the thread.

Ok, now post the EPA's guidelines. I'm thinking there may be more opinion than news in the article you posted.
 
You post 'em.

IOW, you don't have a clue what the EPA's guidelines are?

All you know, is that the e-ville coal company was destroying the environment and they got what they deserved; a few people are out of work and can't feed their families, but that's small price to pay.

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IOW, you don't have a clue what the EPA's guidelines are?

All you know, is that the e-ville coal company was destroying the environment and they got what they deserved; a few people are out of work and can't feed their families, but that's small price to pay.

:lamo


Why is it my responsibility to find them when you asked for them. Do your own leg work and prove the EPA wrong or are you afraid it might upset your Obama bashing?
 
Shutting businesses down isn't regulation.

If businessess aren't compliant to regulations, being shut down is the consequence.


Common sense dictates that this is over-regulation.

That's simply absurd. Common sense dictates that failing to comply to regulations will lead to being shut down.

The fact that the business is shut down doesn't indicatre overregulation, though.

For example, a restaurant that refuses to comply with regulations regarding not serving human feces in their food will be shut down.

This is not really overregulation. It's merely a consequence for a choice made by the business owner.

Looking at the consequences of an action, and determining that there is overregulation involved because doesn't like th eresults of those consequences, is precicely the opposite of common sense.

I would love to see the part of the Constitution where it says, "...and shut businesses down, if need be".

Passing laws requires consequences for falurew to comply to those laws.

It's simple common sense that failing to comply to these laws will have consequences.
 
Another bonehead move by The Messiah.

What are you talking about? This is good news for the economy and job creation. All they have to do is get the unemployment checks out quickly.

"It injects demand into the economy," Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said of unemployment checks.

"It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

Pelosi calls unemployment checks a "stimulus" that is a "double benefit" helping "those who lost their jobs" and at the same serves as a "job creator"
RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Unemployment Checks Serve As "Job Creator"
 
If they can get a permit.

Should be no problem. The research has been done and guidelines are in place. A 1% cost increase should br no problem for a efficient well run company.
 
Another bonehead move by The Messiah.

He openly claimed coal was in his crosshairs, and that he would bankrupt them.
 
And the folks that work at that mine are out of work. So, who got hurt here?

That's a problem that most Leftists have; ya'll can't see the big picture.

We can see the big picture, it is you that can't. Causing irrepairable damage to the envirionment to save a few dollars is the company's choice. Like I said before that coal isn't going anywhere. Eventually it will be extracted safely with minimal envirionmental damage as long as the EPA remains vigilant.
Right wingnuts breathe the same air and drink the same weater as liberals.
 
If businessess aren't compliant to regulations, being shut down is the consequence.




That's simply absurd. Common sense dictates that failing to comply to regulations will lead to being shut down.

The fact that the business is shut down doesn't indicatre overregulation, though.

For example, a restaurant that refuses to comply with regulations regarding not serving human feces in their food will be shut down.

This is not really overregulation. It's merely a consequence for a choice made by the business owner.

Looking at the consequences of an action, and determining that there is overregulation involved because doesn't like th eresults of those consequences, is precicely the opposite of common sense.



Passing laws requires consequences for falurew to comply to those laws.

It's simple common sense that failing to comply to these laws will have consequences.

If the regulations are too stringent, then it becomes over-regulation.
 
We can see the big picture, it is you that can't. Causing irrepairable damage to the envirionment to save a few dollars is the company's choice. Like I said before that coal isn't going anywhere. Eventually it will be extracted safely with minimal envirionmental damage as long as the EPA remains vigilant.
Right wingnuts breathe the same air and drink the same weater as liberals.

How do you know this is causing irrepairable damage to the environment? Because the EPA says so?
 
Don't hold your breath. The coal won't be mined. Instead the country will import oil from foreign dictators. That's what environmentalists want.

No, environmentalist care about the air we breathe and the water we drink. Shutting down this mine will not lead to one more drop of oil imported. Other coal mining companies will gladly increase their profits and make up the difference by hiring more people and mining more coal. You do know this isn't the only coal mine in the country, don't you?
 
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How do you know this is causing irrepairable damage to the environment? Because the EPA says so?
Yes, because of the studies and the research they have done. I just thank God that all republicans aren't like you or we would be as polutted as China where there isn't an EPA.
 
Yes, because of the studies and the research they have done. I just thank God that all republicans aren't like you or we would be as polutted as China where there isn't an EPA.

Let's see that research. I hope it wasn't done by some of the same people that say global warming is real.
 
Yes, because of the studies and the research they have done. I just thank God that all republicans aren't like you or we would be as polutted as China where there isn't an EPA.


It was Nixon that started the EPA because of scenes like this:

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Firefighters battle a fire on Ohio's Cuyahoga River in 1952. The polluted river caught fire on several occasions between 1936 and 1969, when debris and oil had concentrated on the water's surface and ignited. A blaze in 1969 came at a time of increasing environmental awareness and symbolized years of environmental neglect. The Cuyahoga River fires helped spur grassroots activism that resulted in a wave of federal legislation devoted to taking serious action against air and water pollution.
NOAA's National Ocean Service Education: Nonpoint Source Pollution
 
This mentality will become increasingly rare as Americans experience a decline in their living standards.

Other coal mining companies will produce more coal to make up the slack. Hiring more people in the process. It really isn't going to cost any jobs. The jobs will just move to a better company.
Your mentality would lower living standards even more through more health problems and shorter lives. A clean environment is one of the most important aspects of quality of life and standard of living.
 
Then you people would complain about him spending money. The "Messiah"(just call the man by his damn name) can cure aids, and people would still complain.

You People? ?
Oh never mind.

You're right and we'd probably have a field day if it ever happened. It might be worth it though to see someone flip-flop to that extent.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

Shocking Audio: Obama Promises to Bankrupt Coal Industry : Stop The ACLU
 
If the regulations are too stringent, then it becomes over-regulation.

That's their goal, to make it incredibly tough to make a profit, and when that happens... who the hell will continue with the business.

The eco-freaks have gone way to far... and of course this helps us with energy independence. Drill in hard to get areas... close down drilling in those areas, shut down the coal industry.

Idiocy. Pure unadulterated idiocy.



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That's their goal, to make it incredibly tough to make a profit, and when that happens... who the hell will continue with the business.

The eco-freaks have gone way to far... and of course this helps us with energy independence. Drill in hard to get areas... close down drilling in those areas, shut down the coal industry.

Idiocy. Pure unadulterated idiocy.



The new campaign song for The Uniter, The Messiah, The One, The One We Have Been Waiting For.


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Did you know that Cap and Trade was invented by conservative republicans?
And if Reagan hadn't scrapped Carters energy policies we would be energy independent right now.
 
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What you people fail to realize that if the EPA lets this company operate without following the EPA recommendations taxpayers will eventually have to pay for the clean up. It has already cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars to clean up messes created by businesses that were more worried about profits than people.
 
Did you know that Cap and Trade was invented by conservative republicans?
And if Reagan hadn't scrapped Carters energy policies we would be energy independent right now.

If Reagan hadn't scrapped the syn-fuel idiocy, we would be riding horses, right now.
 
This appears not to be about the permit, but about the Obama admin going after mountain top mining because they don't like it.
 
If Reagan hadn't scrapped the syn-fuel idiocy, we would be riding horses, right now.

Thats a bunch of BS. It was just a small part of Carters policies. Conservation was the key to his programs. Oil companies profits were starting to suffer due to Carters conservation policies. Reagan came to their rescue and trashed all of Carters policies.
 
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