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Makes me look like I have a really good memory.
Nah, makes you look just like him. I hope that's what you were going for.
Makes me look like I have a really good memory.
Oh, well that just hitting below the belt.Nah, makes you look just like him. I hope that's what you were going for.
Oh, well that just hitting below the belt.
Reminds me of a sign I've seen that goes,"What would Yoda do? Your ass kick it he would."Teaches you something, a light swat sometimes will.
Reminds me of a sign I've seen that goes,"What would Yoda do? Your ass kick it he would."
That's why, Yoda, I am. :2razz:
That's...
That's why, Yoda, am I. :2razz:
You mislpalced the "I" and "am". :2razz:
(sorry couldn't resist)
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Not at all, however I do believe arming everyone is complete nuts. I am not anti 2nd Amendment, I believe you have the right to protect yourself.
But a 33 round Glock is insane.
I think he was lucky. Had the others not identified themselves in time and indicated who the shooter was, he might have taken a shot and hurt or killed someone who was innocent. He didnt think, he over-thought and as a result he hesitated. The fact that he DIDN'T have better training saved lives. A truly proficient user of a weapon, any weapon, does not hesitate in it's use. He immediately identifies the most likely target and utilizes his weapon, he doesnt stop to wait for input from everyone else around him.Good thing he showed some discipline. Yes? Sounds like a responsible gun owner, to me. Whatcha think?
I think he was lucky. Had the others not identified themselves in time and indicated who the shooter was, he might have taken a shot and hurt or killed someone who was innocent. He didnt think, he over-thought and as a result he hesitated. The fact that he DIDN'T have better training saved lives. A truly proficient user of a weapon, any weapon, does not hesitate in it's use. He immediately identifies the most likely target and utilizes his weapon, he doesnt stop to wait for input from everyone else around him.
This is an example of why I have a problem with civilians carrying weapons around. Several civilians WITHOUT weapons managed to subdue the shooter, unfortunately not until he'd taken several lives, but as I see it there are very rarely times involving an unstable person with a gun that ends ONLY with his death or capture unless law enforcement are involved.
Well gee... I think it just as likely that he could have saved six innocent lives if he had been right there with Giffords.
Loughner comes up, shoots Giffords and the armed good guy shoots Loughner dead.
Yes, so logically everyone should have armed guards, then NO ONE will be shot!Well gee... I think it just as likely that he could have saved six innocent lives if he had been right there with Giffords.
Loughner comes up, shoots Giffords and the armed good guy shoots Loughner dead.
Yes, so logically everyone should have armed guards, then NO ONE will be shot!
Maddow destroys GOP fantasy that more guns equals less violence
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It seems in almost every argument here at DP it is always the extreme vs the extreme.
In this case it is the total outlaw of guns vs the desire to arm every citizen.
I don't believe in outlaw of guns as I would be an outlaw then. I don't believe in arming every citizen because I have seen those same klutz citizens everyday just trying to maneuver a vehicle in traffic.
With that said there is such a tendency for those to state if only I had been there with my concealed gun. For that to happen and for that person to be standing in such close proximity to the shooter to allow a safe shot is probably near 0.1% of happening. Afterall how many here have ever been at a mass shooting at anytime in their life with the exception of warfare?
Guys who spend Saturdays at the public firing range want to say they could have stopped it but unless you are battle tested then you are as much am amateur as the boxer who only shadow boxes and has never climbed in the ring.
We will never be 100% safe from an attacker whether it be by gun or razor utility knife. I think the only bright note is more citizens now may be willing to attack the perp such as most passengers on airplanes now.
I have never once in my life claimed that people shouldnt have guns. I HAVE said that they shouldnt be allowed to carry them wherever they please.Ah! The "Rosie O Donell Theorem"...guns are evil, no one should have guns...I would never own a gun because guns are bad and evil...thats why I have an armed bodyguard..."
I think he was lucky. Had the others not identified themselves in time and indicated who the shooter was, he might have taken a shot and hurt or killed someone who was innocent. He didnt think, he over-thought and as a result he hesitated. The fact that he DIDN'T have better training saved lives. A truly proficient user of a weapon, any weapon, does not hesitate in it's use. He immediately identifies the most likely target and utilizes his weapon, he doesnt stop to wait for input from everyone else around him.
This is an example of why I have a problem with civilians carrying weapons around. Several civilians WITHOUT weapons managed to subdue the shooter, unfortunately not until he'd taken several lives, but as I see it there are very rarely times involving an unstable person with a gun that ends ONLY with his death or capture unless law enforcement are involved.
I dont fear firearms, I simply feel that they add a more dangerous factor to public life that I dont feel is necessary.If you are afraid of guns-as you obviously are-don't own one. don't project your feelings onto others