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Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

I'm sorry... but I'm not sure what you're saying. Grammar would help a ton.
Here, since you can't understand my point, I'll flip places so you can grasp what I'm saying: if a conservative Christian posts something about a gay rights bill, say, in California, if the person has courtesy, they'll say, "As a Chritian, I'm sure pleased that proposition 8 passed."
If they don't have courtesy, they'll say, "This shows the faggots that even the most liberal state in the union still recognizes values and that these mentally disturbed people are not normal. A good step for our nation!"
Do you see the difference?

I keep thinking of that movie "Troy," and that conversation King Priam has with Achilles.
"If I do this, it doesn't change anything. We're still enemies in the morning."
"We're still enemies now... but even enemies can show each other respect."

blah blah blah ignore your hypocrisy all you want its still very very evident

gay rights IS tolerant, your way (if you are against them and dont want them) is NOT tolerant thats just the facts :D
 
Still, holding the view that LGBT shouldn't be allowed to marry is being intolerant, you can say that is intolerant of your views but tolerance is about not accepting the intolerance of people. Now if SSM is allowed you lose nothing, and we get equal rights under the law, now if it outlawed you lose nothing, but we lose equal protection under the law. That is where the intolerance is coming from, you lose nothing in either scenario, but you wish to deny people to be able to live their lives as fully as you under the law.

seems common sense is wasted on him but by all means keep trying
he thinks if gay rights passes somehow he loses something and somehow something is forced on him but in reality thats not true at all
 
And you have made no solid point or contribution to this thread.

So do yourself a favour, stop ducking and dodging when you've been absurd and moronic, and perhaps say something with some substance.

Have you noticed I never initiate our exchanges? But you feel it necessary for some reason to respond to my posts. Do us both a favor, stop trying to communicate with me. Each time you do attempt to communicate with me it will end in exactly the same fashion.
 
Jesus also made a whip and chased merchants out of the temple, because they had turned a sacred place into a market.
Not to mention that he says that when he comes back, it will be to dish out judgment against everyone who isn't a Christian. In addition, he advised his disciples to arm themselves.

and that has a LOT to do with homosexuality. :roll:
 
Still, holding the view that LGBT shouldn't be allowed to marry is being intolerant, you can say that is intolerant of your views but tolerance is about not accepting the intolerance of people. Now if SSM is allowed you lose nothing, and we get equal rights under the law, now if it outlawed you lose nothing, but we lose equal protection under the law. That is where the intolerance is coming from, you lose nothing in either scenario, but you wish to deny people to be able to live their lives as fully as you under the law.

Hey, homosexuals have every right I have. I can marry an adult member of the opposite sex: they can marry an adult member of the opposite sex. I cannot marry John from class, my sister Hannah, or Fido the labrador from Petsmart.
 
Hey, homosexuals have every right I have. I can marry an adult member of the opposite sex: they can marry an adult member of the opposite sex. I cannot marry John from class, my sister Hannah, or Fido the labrador from Petsmart.

so your random illogical rant about nothing explains how YOU lose anything or how anything is FORCED on YOU how again?
oh thats right, it didnt, you dodged that
 
the borg!

resistance is futile!
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Moderator's Warning:
Get on topic, and stop the name calling.
 
so your random illogical rant about nothing explains how YOU lose anything or how anything is FORCED on YOU how again?
oh thats right, it didnt, you dodged that

Okay. I'll explain.

If sodomite "marriage" becomes a legalized thing, then Christians lose. Because a wrong lifestyle that was formerly kept private and out of public eye for the most part will become something that everyone is expected to approve of. It isn't simply, "If you think homosexuality is wrong, heh, stay away from homosexuals." It becomes, "You think homosexuality is wrong? You need sensitivity training. You need to be expelled from your school, or fired from your job. People need to publicly disown you."
It will move to destroy my freedom of religion, the religion that a huge amount of this country has had since it's beginning. When homosexuals trash a church then, or threaten terrorism, it's no longer criminal acts, it's a persecuted minority striking back at horrible people. When parents become upset that their ten year olds are being taught at school that they might be gay, and that homosexuality is good and normal, they become the bad guys or religious bigots.

Real Christianity that actually believes in the Bible is incompatible with the homosexual agenda. Only one can have the 'rights'.
 
Consider. Barack Obama is opposed to Gay Marriage. It troubles many within the Democratic Party and the liberal coalition but they still supported his groundbreaking run for the presidency. They could see past this disagreement in part because Obama as president really doesn't represent an obstacle to implementing Gay Marriage in the individual states.

CPAC has GOProud participate in planning its annual convention. They are a second tier event organizer, hardly influential of the overall tenor and structure of the event; but, in actions that seem mostly of the cutting off one's nose to spite one's face variety, significant social conservative groups are boycotting the convention to protest this limited participation.

For the conservative coalition, these actions are a real problem because they demonstrate a kind of intolerance that eliminates any hope of compromise and united action. Either the Gays go or the social conservatives go; it is now a badge of honor for them; it's a test of fealty to the true cause. And, what's next after that, the Libertarians might be well advised to ask.

What all this really is, is a failure of leadership. This is a dead end. It might feel good for some but it prevents a successful unification for the coming presidential cycle. And, they'll need their whole coalition to have any hope of success in unseating a sitting, (mostly) popular president.

Personally, I am delighted with this turn of events. Obama/Biden '12!
 
Consider. Barack Obama is opposed to Gay Marriage. It troubles many within the Democratic Party and the liberal coalition but they still supported his groundbreaking run for the presidency. They could see past this disagreement in part because Obama as president really doesn't represent an obstacle to implementing Gay Marriage in the individual states.

CPAC has GOProud participate in planning its annual convention. They are a second tier event organizer, hardly influential of the overall tenor and structure of the event; but, in actions that seem mostly of the cutting off one's nose to spite one's face variety, significant social conservative groups are boycotting the convention to protest this limited participation.

For the conservative coalition, these actions are a real problem because they demonstrate a kind of intolerance that eliminates any hope of compromise and united action. Either the Gays go or the social conservatives go; it is now a badge of honor for them; it's a test of fealty to the true cause. And, what's next after that, the Libertarians might be well advised to ask.

What all this really is, is a failure of leadership. This is a dead end. It might feel good for some but it prevents a successful unification for the coming presidential cycle. And, they'll need their whole coalition to have any hope of success in unseating a sitting, (mostly) popular president.

Personally, I am delighted with this turn of events. Obama/Biden '12!


Are conservatives who support lgbt rights simply useful tools of the American left? That is the implication of your gloating. You make such conservatives question their support for lgbt folks. Is this what you want?
 
Are conservatives who support lgbt rights simply useful tools of the American left? That is the implication of your gloating. You make such conservatives question their support for lgbt folks. Is this what you want?

You got it backwards; the social conservatives are helpful to the liberal coalition by effectively preventing the conservative coalition from uniting.
 
You got it backwards; the social conservatives are helpful to the liberal coalition by effectively preventing the conservative coalition from uniting.

Your attitude does not advance the rights of lgbt people. Rather, you drive conservative supporters away.

I look at your post and wonder if I have been a fool for supporting lgbt rights. The conseqeunce of gloating posts like yours is that you force me to make a choice between supporting lgbt people and being a political fool, or casting lgbt rights adrift and cutting lgbt people loose so that I do not play into your hands.
 
Okay. I'll explain.

If sodomite "marriage" becomes a legalized thing, then Christians lose. Because a wrong lifestyle that was formerly kept private and out of public eye for the most part will become something that everyone is expected to approve of. It isn't simply, "If you think homosexuality is wrong, heh, stay away from homosexuals." It becomes, "You think homosexuality is wrong? You need sensitivity training. You need to be expelled from your school, or fired from your job. People need to publicly disown you."
It will move to destroy my freedom of religion, the religion that a huge amount of this country has had since it's beginning. When homosexuals trash a church then, or threaten terrorism, it's no longer criminal acts, it's a persecuted minority striking back at horrible people. When parents become upset that their ten year olds are being taught at school that they might be gay, and that homosexuality is good and normal, they become the bad guys or religious bigots.

Real Christianity that actually believes in the Bible is incompatible with the homosexual agenda. Only one can have the 'rights'.

so again you lose NOTHING in REALITY thanks I get it now, just dramatic mega drama and BS, if you dont like it move to a different country but in this country we have FREEDOMS

hey I dont think two unattractive people should kiss in public but they can I cant believe that is FORCED on me

hey theres people out there that think interracial marriage is wrong but its legal, man thats really forced on them too!

lol you cant be serious but I knew you couldnt explain it to me instead you just offered fantasy land stories LOL

"gays destroying churches and it will be ok" LMAO oh brother talk about dishonesty :roll:

the reality is Christianity is "mostly" largely hypocritical and im fine with that, its just when you try to force your hypocritical ways on me that I laugh at you and it gets you in trouble because that is NOT tolerance LMAO


you will still be able to:

THINK its wrong, gross or offensive etc
TEACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
PREACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
BELIEVE its wrong gross or offensive etc
FEEL its wrong gross or offensive etc
etc

you lose NOTHING in REALITY only in your fantasy land lol
you will BOTH have rights the way it should be instead of discriminating

by the way ill use your brilliant logic against you, I could easily say and argue "Real Christianity that actually believes in the Bible is incompatible with the CONSTITUTION" lmao so now what?

oooops
 
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this conference was overrun with Ron Paul style republicans, hence the booing of the homophobic speaker.
 
this conference was overrun with Ron Paul style republicans, hence the booing of the homophobic speaker.

this post makes me really look forward to the bloodletting at the 2012 GOP convention.
 
this post makes me really look forward to the bloodletting at the 2012 GOP convention.

I wouldn't get too excited. Obama, Pelosi, and co are doing wonders to allow us to put our differences aside this time around.
 
I wouldn't get too excited. Obama, Pelosi, and co are doing wonders to allow us to put our differences aside this time around.

I strongly doubt it, remember there are also the issues of war which majority of right love more than liberals love taxing the rich.
 
I wouldn't get too excited. Obama, Pelosi, and co are doing wonders to allow us to put our differences aside this time around.

Interesting that you identify as Libertarian but refers to the GOP as "us".
 
WOW! This guy from GOProud was great.
Ed Shultz sub was a complete ass.
This is how liberals on MSNBC treat people who dare to be conservative who normally would vote Dem.
They just don't get how blacks or gays could be conservative, so they get all pissy.



Conservatives boycott gay counterparts - Bing Videos
 
so again you lose NOTHING in REALITY thanks I get it now, just dramatic mega drama and BS, if you dont like it move to a different country but in this country we have FREEDOMS

hey I dont think two unattractive people should kiss in public but they can I cant believe that is FORCED on me

hey theres people out there that think interracial marriage is wrong but its legal, man thats really forced on them too!

lol you cant be serious but I knew you couldnt explain it to me instead you just offered fantasy land stories LOL

"gays destroying churches and it will be ok" LMAO oh brother talk about dishonesty :roll:

the reality is Christianity is "mostly" largely hypocritical and im fine with that, its just when you try to force your hypocritical ways on me that I laugh at you and it gets you in trouble because that is NOT tolerance LMAO


you will still be able to:

THINK its wrong, gross or offensive etc
TEACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
PREACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
BELIEVE its wrong gross or offensive etc
FEEL its wrong gross or offensive etc
etc

you lose NOTHING in REALITY only in your fantasy land lol
you will BOTH have rights the way it should be instead of discriminating

by the way ill use your brilliant logic against you, I could easily say and argue "Real Christianity that actually believes in the Bible is incompatible with the CONSTITUTION" lmao so now what?

oooops

I'm curious, what exactly are you smoking/inhaling? Or perhaps you were just never taught how to write and think properly?
 
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