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Palin's reckless views on obesity

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Palin's reckless views on obesity - CNN.com

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(CNN) -- It's clear that we can't go 24 hours without Sarah Palin saying something so stupid that it defies logic, but leave it to the Kim Kardashian of politics to find something wrong with first lady Michelle Obama's effort to curb obesity in America's kids.

In a radio interview on Wednesday with conservative talker Laura Ingraham, Palin took dead aim at the first lady's "Let's Move" initiative, which is all about getting children active and involved in exercise and healthy eating.

In the wacky world of Wasilla's finest, Palin tries to cast the effort to fight obesity as part of Michelle Obama's "different worldview."

Here is a portion of the transcript from HuffingtonPost.com: "Take her anti-obesity thing that she is on. She is on this kick, right. What she is telling us is she cannot trust parents to make decisions for their own children, for their own families in what we should eat.

"And I know I'm going to be again criticized for bringing this up, but instead of a government thinking that they need to take over and make decisions for us according to some politician or politician's wife priorities, just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."

Hmmm. "Let's Move" is Obama's "kick?" Maybe someone should kick Sarah Palin so she can understand how devastating obesity is to the future of the United States.
 
I don't know who is contributing to the hype on Palin more, conservatives or liberals. Seems to be a dead heat these days.

Just stop already.
 
Maybe Roland Martin should learn what liberty means or maybe he should learn what people eat is not the business of the government. Palin with all her faults does understand these two simple ideas. You can't have the government sitting in the corner judging what we eat or how we feed or children. Its not their place, its our place, and its our responsibility to do it wisely or not. Its really this simple, you're either for making your own decisions or your not. You can't have the government having a say and expect your say will continue to have the same weight. I understand that some people are idiots, yes I do, but that is their problem, not mine, and I would and I obviously she would, like it to stay that way. The only way to keep it that way is keep responsibility for ones actions in place.
 
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When people have demonstrated a pattern of making bad decisions, trusting them to make the right decisions for our future is irrational and dangerous. If we were making the right decisions for our children in the face of the obesity epidemic, there wouldn't be any obesity epidemic for us to worry about.

Getting this country back on track means getting people to behave correctly. If force is the only way the government can accomplish this, so be it.
 
I don't know who is contributing to the hype on Palin more, conservatives or liberals. Seems to be a dead heat these days.

Just stop already.

I tend to agree with this, and I find it hilarious. I say the more overload the better.
 
When people have demonstrated a pattern of making bad decisions, trusting them to make the right decisions for our future is irrational and dangerous. If we were making the right decisions for our children in the face of the obesity epidemic, there wouldn't be any obesity epidemic for us to worry about.

Obesity endangers our future? What?

Also, your avater is highly ironic.
 
I wonder what Mrs Palin's views are on (when she isn't looking at her ally North Korea from her house) on the socialist NFL?: Play 60 Kids - NFLRUSH
 
Obesity endangers our future? What?

Also, your avater is highly ironic.

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Well, ok, so how do I say he is a hypocrite in this kind of thread and not break the rules? Can I just not point it out? If that is so, can I point out that Roland Martin is a hypocrite? .
 
Take her anti-obesity thing that she is on. She is on this kick, right. What she is telling us is she cannot trust parents to make decisions for their own children, for their own families in what we should eat.

At least Palin's aware of the situation: parents are continually proving their selves incapable of properly parenting their children.
 
At least Palin's aware of the situation: parents are continually proving their selves incapable of properly parenting their children.

That doesn't give the government the right to usurp their authority, unless there is actual child abuse occurring.
 
That doesn't give the government the right to usurp their authority, unless there is actual child abuse occurring.

Then what do you propose we do about the fact that it's predicted that the majority of Americans will have diabetes by 2020? What do we do about the fact that the majority of us are not in fit enough shape to fight? "Nothing" is not a good enough answer.
 
Then what do you propose we do about the fact that it's predicted that the majority of Americans will have diabetes by 2020? What do we do about the fact that the majority of us are not in fit enough shape to fight? "Nothing" is not a good enough answer.

So what? So what if people are getting diabetes at a higher rate than ever before? How does that warrant action by the government? Stop assuming you are on higher ground here. You are the one wanting an action to be taken, you are on the defensive, NOT the offensive. A problem does NOT warrant an action by its very existence, sorry.
 
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What I'm talking about is when problems don't need action to be fixed. For example, if I break my toe, it will heal in time. The problem is solved, no matter how well it is done, and I didn't need to take action on it. Could I have fixed it better if I took action on it? Sure, but that isn't my point. Obesity is exactly that kind of thing. Society is what caused the problem, and society is what will fix it. It might take time, it might not work the way you wish, but it will fix itself. There is no action that needs to be taken. The problem with people like yourself is you think you can craft society, or that you have the right to do so. Neither is so.
 
What I'm talking about is when problems don't need action to be fixed. For example, if I break my toe, it will heal in time. The problem is solved, no matter how well it is done, and I didn't need to take action on it. Could I have fixed it better if I took action on it? Sure, but that isn't my point. Obesity is exactly that kind of thing. Society is what caused the problem, and society is what will fix it. It might take time, it might not work the way you wish, but it will fix itself. There is no action that needs to be taken. The problem with people like yourself is you think you can craft society, or that you have the right to do so. Neither is so.

Actually, society is unlikely to fix the problem. Evolution is what screwed us up, and that's the only thing likely to fix it, other than effort on the part of the government or ourselves.

As a species, we're simply not designed to have so much food so readily available to us all the time. We're also designed to do a lot more manual labor than the vast majority of us do today.
 
Actually, society is unlikely to fix the problem. Evolution is what screwed us up, and that's the only thing likely to fix it, other than effort on the part of the government or ourselves.

As a species, we're simply not designed to have so much food so readily available to us all the time. We're also designed to do a lot more manual labor than the vast majority of us do today.

We have had food readily available far before this ever became a problem. I highly doubt that is a cause. As for getting more exercise, ofcourse, but that is just a habit that has plenty of chances to change on its own.
 
What I'm talking about is when problems don't need action to be fixed. For example, if I break my toe, it will heal in time. The problem is solved, no matter how well it is done, and I didn't need to take action on it. Could I have fixed it better if I took action on it? Sure, but that isn't my point. Obesity is exactly that kind of thing. Society is what caused the problem, and society is what will fix it. It might take time, it might not work the way you wish, but it will fix itself. There is no action that needs to be taken.

If you could have fixed it better, you should have. Now your toe isn't as good as it should be, because you had a problem and you ignored it. I think our society, our people, deserve better than that. I think we should be the best in the world, the best we can be-- and that means that when our society has a problem, we should respond to it,

The problem with people like yourself is you think you can craft society, or that you have the right to do so. Neither is so.

The problem with people like you is that you don't take responsibility for the society you live in. You refuse to admit that society could be better, in order to avoid having to take responsibility for making it better. Your arguments lead to stagnation and decay, to the exact same kind of moral rot that has penetrated into every layer of our society-- the belief that we are entitled to privileges without duties, that we can sustain our way of life indefinitely without having to make sacrifices for it. You say that we are helpless, that we can not work to overcome the moral diseases of laziness and apathy, that we can not control our own destiny as a nation and that we should not even try.

I think we're better than that.
 
If you could have fixed it better, you should have. Now your toe isn't as good as it should be, because you had a problem and you ignored it. I think our society, our people, deserve better than that. I think we should be the best in the world, the best we can be-- and that means that when our society has a problem, we should respond to it,

This is the same kind of mindset that has inflicted this society. We don't connect avenues of fixing a problem with what it details. Do you honestly think society would be better of if every problem is fixed by the government? Really? Think about that for a moment. Will you accept any solution put out? Do you think you have a choice? Who will be deciding this? You? Me? You can play dumb and believe the government is the answer, but please show me an example of when this was true. Remember liberty must of been keep.


The problem with people like you is that you don't take responsibility for the society you live in.

There is no responsibility for society. We have no responsibility for what others decide to do, only what we do and choose to do. This is exactly your problem, you think we are all connected and must care for each other and that is why society exists. Society exists for the individual and what they can get out of the society, not what the society can get out of each other.

You refuse to admit that society could be better, in order to avoid having to take responsibility for making it better. Your arguments lead to stagnation and decay, to the exact same kind of moral rot that has penetrated into every layer of our society-- the belief that we are entitled to privileges without duties, that we can sustain our way of life indefinitely without having to make sacrifices for it.

A lack of government intervention does NOT lead to decay or stagnation. There is no proof in history that says such. Please stop with the drivel.

And what kind of sacrifices are you talking about? Your ideas in here are talking about sacrificing my liberty and yours to solve a problem that you argue needs action, but can't actually prove.

You say that we are helpless, that we can not work to overcome the moral diseases of laziness and apathy, that we can not control our own destiny as a nation and that we should not even try.

Overcoming a problem can be done in many ways. You have decided that people are incapable of doing what is right, that they are retarded, and must be lead like sheep by a ruling body that knows what must be done to better society. I have decided people are wise and dumb but these two things must be dealt with by society as a whole to persevere its liberty.

I think we're better than that.

And I think we should be smarter than to allow a group to control what we eat to solve a problem that they decided needed to be fixed and they decided they have the right to do so.
 
At least we now know that Chris Christie will be on the short list as her VP running mate in 2012. ;)
 
I don't know who is contributing to the hype on Palin more, conservatives or liberals. Seems to be a dead heat these days.

Just stop already.

Its impossible for stupid people to stop. No amount of asking would work.

On a more serious note: I cannot remember the last time I had not seen a President or his wife do something to try and reduce obesity. Whether it was Bush running so that other American's would pick up on exercising or Clinton making jokes about going to the Doctor and reading his results to the public, etc. This is not a beginning of something new, it is something that has been repeated by every administration since I can remember. Which includes three leaders. So really it isn't about government getting off our backs because they have been off in the first place.
 
There is no responsibility for society. We have no responsibility for what others decide to do, only what we do and choose to do. This is exactly your problem, you think we are all connected and must care for each other and that is why society exists. Society exists for the individual and what they can get out of the society, not what the society can get out of each other.

This is the comment that stood out to me and is the failure of the positions of folks like you. Of course we are all connected. Like or not, what I do has an impact on others and what others do has an impact on me. Whether we have responsibility for society or not is debatable, but we do not live in a vacuum. Society and the individual exist together.
 
At least we now know that Chris Christie will be on the short list as her VP running mate in 2012. ;)

Anything to get him out of NJ is OK with me.
 
This is the comment that stood out to me and is the failure of the positions of folks like you. Of course we are all connected. Like or not, what I do has an impact on others and what others do has an impact on me. Whether we have responsibility for society or not is debatable, but we do not live in a vacuum. Society and the individual exist together.

Yeah but you cannot expect for a rich(financially) father to be supporting all of John Doe's basterd children because he has the inability of keeping his penis in his pants. We are all responsible for our actions and we benefit greatly when we interact with one another. But not when one side is trying to screw the other.
 
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