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White House to put up to 5,000 salad bars in schools

You are so out of touch with reality that it is unlikely you'll ever see Earth again. Do you have children???? Seriously, do you?

Yeah I'm so out of touch with reality I'm failing to see how offering kids salad is the government taking over my childrens minds :roll:
 
Yeah I'm so out of touch with reality I'm failing to see how offering kids salad is the government taking over my childrens minds :roll:

I'm wondering if that same Government will be providing reports to the American people on how much of that salad being offered is eaten vs. thrown away. I'm guessing not. So what's next? Forcing kids to eat the salad or another program where salad is moulded into mcnugget looking chunks?
 
I'm wondering if that same Government will be providing reports to the American people on how much of that salad being offered is eaten vs. thrown away. I'm guessing not. So what's next? Forcing kids to eat the salad or another program where salad is moulded into mcnugget looking chunks?

Oh please man, I thought liberals were the kings of the "What Ifs".

It's a frickin Salad bar being offered. If it doesn't work whatever, that's the fault of the Kids and the Parents, clearly they've been taught or conditioned to believe that Sloppy Joes is superior eating.
 
Why have salad bars when you could just force them to eat healthy food. Seriously, lunch food is crap, and I'm not talking about taste, I'm talking about in calories. There's not that big of a difference from a McDonalds meal. Make them eat healthy at school, or have their parents pack them their lunch.
 
Oh please man, I thought liberals were the kings of the "What Ifs".

It's a frickin Salad bar being offered. If it doesn't work whatever, that's the fault of the Kids and the Parents, clearly they've been taught or conditioned to believe that Sloppy Joes is superior eating.

So are you agreeing with me that it's a waste of time and money or are you disputing the part where they'll be forced to eat salad at some point under the "General Welfare" clause?
 
I think everyone's imagining an open-end buffet for the kids to pick from - with a sneeze guard like at Sizzlers or something. I'm not sure how every school does it but my kid's school don't do it quite that way.

You know how the regular lunch line is?
There's a server - the child is on the *other* side of the glass with a tray - the child picks the food - the server puts the food on a small plate and hands it to the kid. *or* there's are small plates of pre-fixed foods sitting for the kid to take.

When I was a kid they had this same setup. Well - the 'salad bar' is a 2nd line that the kids can choose to go into. They can go through the first line - which is a traditional line (sloppy joe, hamburger, pizza, whatever they're serving) and then they can get an apple, an apricot or a salad plate with tomatoes - served *to them* like the 1st line. it's just a different variety of foods.

The kids don't actually handle the food and serve theirself like you would do at a buffet bar.

Same effort - same system - but a wider variety of foods to eat.

If the kids don't *want* the food they don't *get* the food.
If they *get* the food - whatever it is - they're encouraged to *eat* the food.

It's NOT a big deal. My kids REALLY like fresh fruits and veggies. Especially my older son - he loves olives and having other things with his food.

No one is being forced to eat it
Everyone is encourage in the 1st or 2nd line to take ONLY what they will eat.

Believe it or not - there's ALWAYS going to be waste no matter WHAT is being served - hot dogs and apples will either be eaten wholey, partially or not at all. Live with it.

You know what's wasteful? NOT giving kids much of a choice.
Some kids don't like corn dogs or apples - if you give a kid who DOESN'T like certain foods *no choice* then they *surprise* won't be eating that food at all and it'll go into the trash.
 
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“Perhaps, then, the people you should be getting pissed at are ALL THE PEOPLE who ****ed their health and their children's health - and then demanded the government *do something about ti* for so long that the government actually started to listen.

These are the same people who cried out for the government to 'fix the insurance companies' - and that led to the passing of AACHA.

That's actually why I support such measures - because now we're ****ed out of millions because of the AACHA and other measures - all because some people were loud mouthed and whiny and unwilling to accept the results of their own decisions in life.”
- Aunt Spiker

I’m not pissed at anyone and I have no idea who the AACHA is. I do believe that those who have “****ed thier their health and their children’s health” are on their own.

I don’t owe them anything and neither do you.

I used to smoke and someday I may pay a price for it. But the price to be paid will be mine. It should not include you or anyone else.
 
Oh please man, I thought liberals were the kings of the "What Ifs".

It's a frickin Salad bar being offered. If it doesn't work whatever, that's the fault of the Kids and the Parents, clearly they've been taught or conditioned to believe that Sloppy Joes is superior eating.

It costs $7,000 just get one started, multiply that by the number of schools that don't have one. The entire school lunch system is a bloated mismanaged program. So they'll now offer a salad bar next to the pizza bar. If you want to offer real nutrition, then that's all that should be on the menu otherwise it's a waste of money.
 
We had salad bars in junior high and highschool. I must have had one every other day. Always with low fat dressing. I think it's a good choice for kids. I know that ours were refilled two or three times daily during lunch hour from kids eating salads. Of course if you pile on ranch dressing it isn't very good for you but that's quickly solved with low fat dressings. Even a salad with low fat dressing tastes better than alot of the other stuff they served.
 
I think everyone's imagining an open-end buffet for the kids to pick from - with a sneeze guard like at Sizzlers or something. I'm not sure how every school does it but my kid's school don't do it quite that way.

That's actually how my two schools did it. They had hand washing stations when you walk in to the cafeteria and everyone washed there hands then you could go through the hot food line or you could step to the salad bar that also had apples and bananas and stuff and had a lunch lady monitoring it making sure no one was making a mess of it and that everything was filled. Worked well for us.
 
We had salad bars in junior high and highschool. I must have had one every other day. Always with low fat dressing. I think it's a good choice for kids. I know that ours were refilled two or three times daily during lunch hour from kids eating salads. Of course if you pile on ranch dressing it isn't very good for you but that's quickly solved with low fat dressings. Even a salad with low fat dressing tastes better than alot of the other stuff they served.



Low fat dressing usually isn't.


Plus it's loaded with sugar.


It's :failpail: dood.
 
Low fat dressing usually isn't.


Plus it's loaded with sugar.


It's :failpail: dood.
Yes, how stupid of me to think that salads with low fat/low cal dressing is in anyway appropriate for kids. It's very good of you to point out that some low fat dressings aren't low fat, maybe I was actually referring to the ones that are indeed low fat. Maybe a school official could actually check the nutritional label before putting it on the salad bar. It's a crazy idea, I know, but I think it could work...
 
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Yes, how stupid of me to think that salads with low fat/low cal dressing is in anyway appropriate for kids. It's very good of you to point out that some low fat dressings aren't low fat, maybe I was actually referring to the ones that are indeed low fat. Maybe a school official could actually check the nutritional label before putting it on the salad bar. It's a crazy idea, I know, but I think it could work...



Please list me 5 low cal/low fat dressings.


Thanks
 
Please list me 5 low cal/low fat dressings.


Thanks
Pretty much any balsamic vinegar.

Light Done Right Zesty Italian Reduced Fat (Kraft Salad Dressing)
Serving Size: 2 tbsp, Calories: 25, Fat: 1.5g, Carbs: 2g, Protein: 0g

Calories in Kraft Foods, Inc. - Raspberry Vinaigrette Fat Free Dressing

Walden Farms Honey Dijon Dressing, Sugar Free, Calorie Free, Fat Free, Carb Free, Gluten Free: Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food

Calories in Wish-Bone - Fat Free Ranch

Calories in Wish-Bone - Fat Free Chunky Blue Cheese

Calories in Kraft Foods, Inc. - Salad Dressing French Style Fat Free

Calories in Wish-Bone - Just 2 Good Ranch

And I won't even go into the greatness that is plain olive oil and red wine vinegar.
 
Pretty much any balsamic vinegar.

Light Done Right Zesty Italian Reduced Fat (Kraft Salad Dressing)
Serving Size: 2 tbsp, Calories: 25, Fat: 1.5g, Carbs: 2g, Protein: 0g



There is thier lie.... ;)


what kid is going to only put 2 teaspoons on thier salad? guarantee you need to quadruple that in order to get an accurate measurement.


furthermore.... What's in it? where are the ingredients? I can't find them.

mainly how much sugar?




I need ingredients.





This is fake food, and your kid will be worse off than eating a big mac than a serving of this nasty proccessed crap.






Ingredients: water, corn syrup, cultured low fat buttermilk, vinegar, sugar, onion juice, garlic juice, salt, modified food starch, contains less than 2% of soybean oil, xanthan gum, artificial color, phosphoric acid, propylene glycol alginate, with potassium sorbate and calcium disodium edta as preservatives, monosodium glutamate, natural flavor, dried parsley, fried green onions, vitamin E acetate, spice, caramel color, yellow 5, sulfiting agents[/quote]


:lol: really?





Water, Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Modified Cornstarch, Distilled Vinegar, Blue Cheese (Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Salt, Sugar, Natural Flavors, Artificial Flavors, Cultured Nonfat Buttermilk, Hydrolyzed Corn Gluten, Calcium Caseinate, Sodium Caseinate (from Milk), Cellulose Gel, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Lactic Acid, Phosphoric Acid, Color Added, Whey, Sorbic Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Calcium Disodium EDTA to protect quality, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Cellulose Gum, Spice, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E).



Sounds delish!!!!! :roll:







Do I need to go on? I've only highligted some of the fake food in these proccessed pieces of poison you are suggesting our kids ingest. ;)



And I won't even go into the greatness that is plain olive oil and red wine vinegar.


See now this I agree with. :thumbs:
 
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There is thier lie.... ;)


what kid is going to only put 2 teaspoons on thier salad? guarantee you need to quadruple that in order to get an accurate measurement.


furthermore.... What's in it? where are the ingredients? I can't find them.

mainly how much sugar?





I need ingredients.






This is fake food, and your kid will be worse off than eating a big mac than a serving of this nasty proccessed crap.







Ingredients: water, corn syrup, cultured low fat buttermilk, vinegar, sugar, onion juice, garlic juice, salt, modified food starch, contains less than 2% of soybean oil, xanthan gum, artificial color, phosphoric acid, propylene glycol alginate, with potassium sorbate and calcium disodium edta as preservatives, monosodium glutamate, natural flavor, dried parsley, fried green onions, vitamin E acetate, spice, caramel color, yellow 5, sulfiting agents


:lol: really?






Water, Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Modified Cornstarch, Distilled Vinegar, Blue Cheese (Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Salt, Sugar, Natural Flavors, Artificial Flavors, Cultured Nonfat Buttermilk, Hydrolyzed Corn Gluten, Calcium Caseinate, Sodium Caseinate (from Milk), Cellulose Gel, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Lactic Acid, Phosphoric Acid, Color Added, Whey, Sorbic Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Calcium Disodium EDTA to protect quality, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Cellulose Gum, Spice, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E).



Sounds delish!!!!! :roll:








Do I need to go on? I've only highligted some of the fake food in these proccessed pieces of poison you are suggesting our kids ingest. ;)






See now this I agree with. :thumbs:[/QUOTE]

You pointed out **** that is in the overwhelming majority of food in any restaurant or store. You highlighted sugar on things where it contains 2 grams of sugar. Be sure to keep those sugar containing apples out of your kids hands.

Corn syrup is another thing. Perfectly fine for you in moderation. Definitely should be limited but is similar to sugar in all ways that matter.

As far as serving size my schools had packets of dressing, with the recommended serving inside of it. Simple solution.

Basically you're arguing for the sake of being argumentative. I guarantee, unless you keep your kid away from nearly every restaurant and nearly every isle of the grocery store, away from all cereals, away from most loaves of bread, etc... that they already eat this stuff and it's perfectly fine for them in moderation.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Pretty much any balsamic vinegar.

Light Done Right Zesty Italian Reduced Fat (Kraft Salad Dressing)
Serving Size: 2 tbsp, Calories: 25, Fat: 1.5g, Carbs: 2g, Protein: 0g

There is thier lie.... ;)


what kid is going to only put 2 teaspoons on thier salad? guarantee you need to quadruple that in order to get an accurate measurement.
look carefully, and tell me what's wrong with your comment here Rev...lol.
 
Tablespoons. :doh


Comment still stands. kids douse thier food with condiments... think quarter to half cup minimum.

One of my sons dips his hamburger in ketchup like a french fry. :doh
 
One of my sons dips his hamburger in ketchup like a french fry. :doh


Under the Reagan admin ketchup was classified as a vegetable for school lunches. The partison bickering of course went on. Later it was found ketchup has some chemical in it that is beneficial in preventing cancer.
 
Under the Reagan admin ketchup was classified as a vegetable for school lunches. The partison bickering of course went on. Later it was found ketchup has some chemical in it that is beneficial in preventing cancer.

No prostate cancer for him.
 
Under the Reagan admin ketchup was classified as a vegetable for school lunches. The partison bickering of course went on. Later it was found ketchup has some chemical in it that is beneficial in preventing cancer.




High fructose corn syrup, and tons of chemicles FTW!!!!!
 
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