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Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

apdst said:
Debunked by whom? The only way to debunk the 2 billion figure, is to make public the actual figure.

Shouldn't be all that tuff, what with all that transparency Obama promised.
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Actually that is not the only way to debunk the story. Proving it false is all it takes, and has been done by a ton of sources, including factcheck.org, politifact, USAToday, WSJ, and many others. The trip is going to cost roughly what any other presidential trip overseas costs.

But don't let me get in the way of fantasyland.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, when you google it you get the cost from India and a statement from this country that claims the cost is wildly overstated but no further details. Again had this been Bush what would you have requested regarding the cost of this trip?
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G-D it, the exact costs are secret because of security concerns which was the same policy during Bush. And no I wouldn't believed the stupid details, I'm not that gullible.
 
Redress said:
Actually that is not the only way to debunk the story. Proving it false is all it takes, and has been done by a ton of sources, including factcheck.org, politifact, USAToday, WSJ, and many others. The trip is going to cost roughly what any other presidential trip overseas costs.

But don't let me get in the way of fantasyland.
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Sounds like a double standard to me, the claims that this story is false due to a ton of sources is misleading information at best. There has been no such source as the govt. is tight lipped about the trip and has not given a cost estimate. That is what the taxpayers deserves. How about it, how much will the trip cost and if it were Bush wouldn't you demand more transparency?
 
pbrauer said:
G-D it, the exact costs are secret because of security concerns which was the same policy during Bush. And no I wouldn't believed the stupid details, I'm not that gullible.
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No one is asking for the exact cost, a ballpark number will suffice. India gave th 200 million a day and the Administration said that was a wild exaggeration. Based upon the lies this Administration has told it does seem that India has more credibility. Noticed you didn't respond to the question as to what you would have expected from the Bush Administration.
 
pbrauer said:
G-D it, the exact costs are secret because of security concerns which was the same policy during Bush. And no I wouldn't believed the stupid details, I'm not that gullible.
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Here is the answer from Factcheck.org

A: This highly doubtful claim originated with one Indian news agency quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai. The White House says it is "wildly exaggerated," and there’s no evidence to support such a huge figure.

Obviously that doesn't answer the question or even give a ballpark figure yet you and all the other Obama supporters buy that as a credible answer. If Bush did it would it be credible? Where is your outrage over the double standard?
 
Conservative said:
Sounds like a double standard to me, the claims that this story is false due to a ton of sources is misleading information at best. There has been no such source as the govt. is tight lipped about the trip and has not given a cost estimate. That is what the taxpayers deserves. How about it, how much will the trip cost and if it were Bush wouldn't you demand more transparency?
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The claims are false because there is both no evidence that they are true, no circumstantial evidence they are true, parts of the story are 100 % false(34 warships for example) and because it is fairly safe to assume that the costs run about the normal for presidential travel, which shows us that the 2 billion number is only about 95 % or more inflated.
 
How would announcing the price of the trip affect security?
 
Conservative said:
Here is the answer from Factcheck.org

A: This highly doubtful claim originated with one Indian news agency quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai. The White House says it is "wildly exaggerated," and there’s no evidence to support such a huge figure.

Obviously that doesn't answer the question or even give a ballpark figure yet you and all the other Obama supporters buy that as a credible answer. If Bush did it would it be credible? Where is your outrage over the double standard?
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If a similar story came out about one of Bush' s trips I would have been very skeptical. As for your claim of a double standard, I don't buy your strawman argument.
 
Conservative said:
Here is the answer from Factcheck.org

A: This highly doubtful claim originated with one Indian news agency quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai. The White House says it is "wildly exaggerated," and there’s no evidence to support such a huge figure.

Obviously that doesn't answer the question or even give a ballpark figure yet you and all the other Obama supporters buy that as a credible answer. If Bush did it would it be credible? Where is your outrage over the double standard?
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I never once complained about Bush traveling, or the cost of that travel. For a president to go anywhere is expensive, that is just how it is. Did you complain about the cost of Bush's travel, and if not, why the hypocrisy of complaining now?
 
Whovian said:
I'd 'really' like to know how much this trip is costing... how many people are going... how many warships really are going into the area... etc.

Does ANYONE have real verifiable numbers?
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Clinton's Africa trip cost around $3.9 million a day.

And if we convert the $200 million as Rupees, Obama's trip is costing $4.5 million which when accounting for additional security and inflation is mundane really.

The fact that Bachmann has no dicernable critical thinking skills is not news though.
 
Conservative said:
No one is asking for the exact cost, a ballpark number will suffice. India gave th 200 million a day and the Administration said that was a wild exaggeration. Based upon the lies this Administration has told it does seem that India has more credibility. Noticed you didn't respond to the question as to what you would have expected from the Bush Administration.
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And there goes any shred of credibility you had left. Afghanistan costs $190 million daily. Clinton's Africa trip cost around $4 million a day. You are explicitly arguing that there has been a truly astronomical increase in costs in twenty years.

If we apply our brains, the $200 million suggests it is Rupees. Furthermore, if we examine current conversion rates, that $200 million is reduced to $4.5 million which in line with previous presidential trips.

Your posts are excellent examples of why the Department of Ed needs to die.
 
Remember when Bush would travel and all the righties would be up in arms about how much those trips cost the taxpayers and how they demanded to know the exact cost of those trips because it was their money being spent?

No? Me neither.
 
Redress said:
The claims are false because there is both no evidence that they are true, no circumstantial evidence they are true, parts of the story are 100 % false(34 warships for example) and because it is fairly safe to assume that the costs run about the normal for presidential travel, which shows us that the 2 billion number is only about 95 % or more inflated.
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This Administration has never been accurate on any prediction and has lied about their accomplishments so again, how do you know that they are right on this one? A ball park figure is what the Taxpayers deserve. There is no way that the number is 95% inflated based upon past Presidential trips. What is the purpose of this trip to India and what is the ballpark estimate as to the cost? Isn't it time for Obama to keep at least one campaign promise, transparency?
 
obvious Child said:
And there goes any shred of credibility you had left. Afghanistan costs $190 million daily. Clinton's Africa trip cost around $4 million a day. You are explicitly arguing that there has been a truly astronomical increase in costs in twenty years.

If we apply our brains, the $200 million suggests it is Rupees. Furthermore, if we examine current conversion rates, that $200 million is reduced to $4.5 million which in line with previous presidential trips.

Your posts are excellent examples of why the Department of Ed needs to die.
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Stop with the personal attacks and if you want to debate the issue I will do that with you but not with the condescending tone and mindless drivel and diversion that you usually offer. This has nothing to do with the Afghanistan War but everything to do with the current economic situation in the country. The taxpayers deserve an answer.
 
TennesseeRain said:
Remember when Bush would travel and all the righties would be up in arms about how much those trips cost the taxpayers and how they demanded to know the exact cost of those trips because it was their money being spent?

No? Me neither.
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I do remember that liberals questioned everything Bush did. Bush didn't have trillion dollar deficits and 16 million unemployed Americans. How many unemployed people could get benefits from eliminating the costs of this trip?
 
pbrauer said:
If a similar story came out about one of Bush' s trips I would have been very skeptical. As for your claim of a double standard, I don't buy your strawman argument.
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Of course you don't buy the double standard because you believe everything Obama tells you. How would giving the cost of the trip affect Obama security? With trillion dollar deficits and 16 million unemployed, is this trip and expense really necessary?
 
Redress said:
I never once complained about Bush traveling, or the cost of that travel. For a president to go anywhere is expensive, that is just how it is. Did you complain about the cost of Bush's travel, and if not, why the hypocrisy of complaining now?
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Right now we have 16 million unemployed Americans, trillion dollar deficits, and an election that has told this Administration to stop spending. Obama is totally deaf to the spending and unemployment issues. Poor timing and insensitive to the plight of those unemployed and the state of the U.S. Economy.
 
obvious Child said:
And there goes any shred of credibility you had left. Afghanistan costs $190 million daily. Clinton's Africa trip cost around $4 million a day. You are explicitly arguing that there has been a truly astronomical increase in costs in twenty years.

If we apply our brains, the $200 million suggests it is Rupees. Furthermore, if we examine current conversion rates, that $200 million is reduced to $4.5 million which in line with previous presidential trips.

Your posts are excellent examples of why the Department of Ed needs to die.
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Actually, converting it to indian currency makes perfect sense! I can't believe I didn't think of that!
 
If you can't stand the competition, maybe you shouldn't enter the thread. The taxpayers don't need an answer beyond "It's a partisan lie, this trip is no more expensive than any other, nothing to see here."
 
digsbe said:
Obama's agenda has costed America trillions. His "bad estimate" was a lie and a form of fear mongering.
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i don't believe you should accuse someone of lying when you have no proof. so, got proof?
 
megaprogman said:
Actually, converting it to indian currency makes perfect sense! I can't believe I didn't think of that!
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Your average Bachmann voter would say: "Indians have different money? Why not dollars like everyone else?"
 
American said:
That's funny you talking about how smart people are. :lol:
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Funny how you condone a member of your own party telling a flat out lie and getting away with it time after time :lol:

Party of Integrity.

Was this the "Restore Honor" Part you guys were going on about? I didn't know lying was Honorable.
 
Manc Skipper said:
If you can't stand the competition, maybe you shouldn't enter the thread. The taxpayers don't need an answer beyond "It's a partisan lie, this trip is no more expensive than any other, nothing to see here."
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What competition? The taxpayers needed an answer when a Republican was in the WH and deserve one now. It sends the wrong message to do what Obama has done, first with Michelle Obama's trip to Spain and now this. You don't know that this trip is no more expensive than past trips but you continue to buy this President's rhetoric when the reality is his rhetoric has never been accurate since he took office. Slightly liberal? LOL, no objective slightly liberal individual would continue to make the defense you and others give. This Administration lies and you ignore it
 
Jetboogieman said:
Funny how you condone a member of your own party telling a flat out lie and getting away with it time after time :lol:

Party of Integrity.

Was this the "Restore Honor" Part you guys were going on about? I didn't know lying was Honorable.
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It does seem that liberals have higher standards for Conservatives than they have for their own representatives and candidates. Obama promised the most transparent Administration in history and we are still waiting to see that transparence. Maybe the news in your country is a little late in arriving.
 
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