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Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

Deuce said:
Security guards are not law enforcement. They do not have the authority to handcuff and detain you. Doing so is false imprisonment, which is a felony.

They had the right to stop him from entering, or eject him if he refused to leave. (they leased the building which made it a private event) However, they can't handcuff and arrest you except under very specific circumstances, usually involving direct witness of a felony, and even that varies by state.
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Like anything else in the US, security officers and their powers vary by state. In Missouri, it's determined by county. In St. Louis city and county, security officers have the same authority as police officers when they are working and on post. Security officers can arrest a person and put them in handcuffs until the police arrive. They have to follow the same procedures and policies that the police do. I'd be careful before making vague and false statements like the one you did.
 
Between this event and other teabagger stories, it seems to me, that they're cowards when it comes to the press.

Even if they feel that Fox News is the only news that's friendly to them, the truth is, that news isn't supposed to be friendly to them anyway.

The truth is, they don't trust that the main stream PUBLIC will agree with their rhetoric, so theu aim it towards those who are already predisposed to it.

Cowards and losers that know deep down inside that they don't have the knowledge or skills to make their case.
 
Ockham said:
Then why weren't the security members arrested?
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Who says they won't be arrested? The reporter has every right to take these thugs to court and the judge will deside what will be done next.
 
pbrauer said:
Where is the proof the reporter is a liberal? The story may indeed mean nothing, however it certainly doesn't help his campaign.
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Joe Miller is a Republican and most people in the media by a wide margin are liberals and they have become emboldened in recent years thinking it's okay to be confrontational rather than civil or Tony Hopfinger would not have invited to leave in the first place.

He must have crossed the live of civility.

Believe me you can ask tough questions and not be a ass in the process, you just have to be tactful and not make demands, or you will be asked to go.

I got into it with Then Governor Napolitano at a Luncheon a few years ago and managed to piss her off because she didn't like hearing that NAFTA had cost Arizona jobs, and she tried to say it was a good thing, and hearing the facts and numbers in a room filled with several hundred people was not fun for her, but I was civil and wasn't ask to leave.

I knew she was pissed because the asked the Cities Mayor who I was, the Mayor told me later. She was a friend of mine and I was on the Council and a rare Conservative Reporter at the time.
 
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Ockham said:
Then why weren't the security members arrested?
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Maybe they will be arrested since their license to provide security services has EXPIRED!!!

Amazing. As more news comes out about the “security guards” who handcuffed Alaskan reporter Tony Hopfinger, we’re learning that they’re survivalists who run a cheesy military surplus store — and they had no business license to operate as security guards.
Due to the discovery of our reader Older_Wiser we can reveal that the business license for “Dropzone Security Services”, 3701 SPENARD ROAD, ANCHORAGE AK 99503, owned by William F. Fulton expired on 31/12/2009 and was NOT renewed!
The company belonging Mr. Fulton, who was pictured in the above clips, is currently not licensed for providing security services. Joe Miller therefore employed the services of a “rogue” security company, so to speak.
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Little Green Footballs - Breaking: Joe Miller's Security Guards Have No License
 
Bastinda said:
Between this event and other teabagger stories, it seems to me, that they're cowards when it comes to the press.

Even if they feel that Fox News is the only news that's friendly to them, the truth is, that news isn't supposed to be friendly to them anyway.

The truth is, they don't trust that the main stream PUBLIC will agree with their rhetoric, so theu aim it towards those who are already predisposed to it.

Cowards and losers that know deep down inside that they don't have the knowledge or skills to make their case.
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I find your post to be very insulting and offensive in the use a sexually vulgar term to describe a group of Patriots you clearly hate.

I believe you are very wrong to be so vulgar as to repeat this epithet you obviously picked up from Idiots like Olbermann, and Matthews.

Conservatives do not fear the Obamedia on the contrary the Liberal Left Media fears the Tea Party, and thanks to the hate Obama brought with him to Washington the Media has become openly hateful to anyone who is not busy kissing Obama's posterior, and it is seen here in the hate and name calling I see every day from Liberals.

Some how they think it's okay to call names and be hateful when the should be reinforcing their arguments, but that can't happen since they can't deal with facts or the truth.
 
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Councilman said:
Joe Miller is a Republican and most people in the media by a wide margin are liberals and they have become emboldened in recent years thinking it's okay to be confrontational rather than civil or Tony Hopfinger would not have invited to leave in the first place.

He must have crossed the live of civility.
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So you have an opinion that Tony Hopfinger is a liberal, but no facts? I thought so. :mrgreen:
 
The_Patriot said:
Like anything else in the US, security officers and their powers vary by state. In Missouri, it's determined by county. In St. Louis city and county, security officers have the same authority as police officers when they are working and on post. Security officers can arrest a person and put them in handcuffs until the police arrive. They have to follow the same procedures and policies that the police do. I'd be careful before making vague and false statements like the one you did.
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On post? Are you talking about military police, or private citizens who are acting as security guards?
 
Whovian said:
On post? Are you talking about military police, or private citizens who are acting as security guards?
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A post, in security officer parlance, is the place where the security company is contracted to secure. It can be a building, a parking lot, a construction site, a group of apartment buildings, etc... All of them are referred to as a post. Security officers in St. Louis City and County are licensed by the Watchmen's Division of the St. Louis Metro Police Department or St. Louis County Police Department. Said license gives a security officer the same legal authority as a police officer like making arrests.
 
The_Patriot said:
A post, in security officer parlance, is the place where the security company is contracted to secure. It can be a building, a parking lot, a construction site, a group of apartment buildings, etc... All of them are referred to as a post. Security officers in St. Louis City and County are licensed by the Watchmen's Division of the St. Louis Metro Police Department or St. Louis County Police Department. Said license gives a security officer the same legal authority as a police officer like making arrests.
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Thanks for the clarification.
 
Councilman said:
I find your post to be very insulting and offensive in the use a sexually vulgar term to describe a group of Patriots you clearly hate.

I believe you are very wrong to be so vulgar as to repeat this epithet you obviously picked up from Idiots like Olbermann, and Matthews.

Conservatives do not fear the Obamedia on the contrary the Liberal Left Media fears the Tea Party, and thanks to the hate Obama brought with him to Washington the Media has become openly hateful to anyone who is not busy kissing Obama's posterior, and it is seen here in the hate and name calling I see every day from Liberals.

Some how they think it's okay to call names and be hateful when the should be reinforcing their arguments, but that can't happen since they can't deal with facts or the truth.
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You go around these forums with childish antics like calling all democrats the "dims" and then complain about another person calling the tea party what they called themselves at one point? And then, despite the hypocrisy you point out that he is calling them that term because he has to insult people rather than deal with facts and truths...

Hell, you're complaining about hate from liberals when I saw signs at conservative events saying "bury obamacare with kennedy"?

You overloaded your post with hypocrisy dude. I know many people and myself included sometimes can't see the forest through the trees when we put our partisan blinders on but think about the actual argument you're making here and the hypocrisy involved in your feigned indignation of how a liberal dare to insult a group of people, *gasp*.
 
roughdraft274 said:
You go around these forums with childish antics like calling all democrats the "dims" and then complain about another person calling the tea party what they called themselves at one point? And then, despite the hypocrisy you point out that he is calling them that term because he has to insult people rather than deal with facts and truths...

Hell, you're complaining about hate from liberals when I saw signs at conservative events saying "bury obamacare with kennedy"?

You overloaded your post with hypocrisy dude. I know many people and myself included sometimes can't see the forest through the trees when we put our partisan blinders on but think about the actual argument you're making here and the hypocrisy involved in your feigned indignation of how a liberal dare to insult a group of people, *gasp*.
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I asked you back in april to back upo your claims regarding some of this back in april.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...y-finally-cover-tea-party.html#post1058686683

find em yet? :ssst:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
What do you think this proves.


1. Kennedy got away with manslaughter, may he rot in hell for what he did.

2. You take rush limbaugh at his word? If not yes why would you believe this bitch?


:lamo
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I said that those signs existed, I was just backing up my claim.

I don't take Rachel Maddow at her word, but she lays this out pretty clearly and I'm not planning on spending my time scroungin for more sources on someone who would ignore them anyway.
 
Bastinda said:
Between this event and other teabagger stories, it seems to me, that they're cowards when it comes to the press.

Even if they feel that Fox News is the only news that's friendly to them, the truth is, that news isn't supposed to be friendly to them anyway.

The truth is, they don't trust that the main stream PUBLIC will agree with their rhetoric, so theu aim it towards those who are already predisposed to it.

Cowards and losers that know deep down inside that they don't have the knowledge or skills to make their case.
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ROTFLOL... for argument sake, let's say they limit themselves to one TV network, and talk radio. If they can get elected by shunning the Journolists... more power to them!

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