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Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

You can have all the opinions you want. The left said when Obama was elected he had a mandate because he had a majority of the vote. Now they say this election does not give the GOP a mandate. Shows the hypocrisy and double standard of your democrats brothers.

As for why this election went to the GOP it was because of Healthcare, the out of control spending and a deficit that is growing faster than anytime in history. Then again most do not like the way it looks we are headed to a socialist police state.

This election was not just on the fed level but the GOP made great gains in state elections also.

I don't speak for the left, whoever they are. You're having a discussion with me.

And like I said, 30 something percent think healthcare and spending went too far. 30 somethign percent think health care reform and spending didn't go far eneough. And 30 something percent think it was just right. So, where's the mandate? Exactly how do you read that?
 
Nearly four-in-ten (39%) said that reducing the deficit should be the highest priority for the next Congress while nearly as many said spending to create jobs (37%). Fewer voters (19%) rated cutting taxes as the highest priority.

Similarly, voters were divided over whether to repeal health care reform (48%) or maintain or even expand it (16% leave as is, 31% expand).

A Clear Rejection of the Status Quo, No Consensus about Future Policies - Pew Research Center

I ask again, where is the mandate there?
 
I don't speak for the left, whoever they are. You're having a discussion with me.

And like I said, 30 something percent think healthcare and spending went too far. 30 somethign percent think health care reform and spending didn't go far eneough. And 30 something percent think it was just right. So, where's the mandate? Exactly how do you read that?

You have proof for those figures? Are you talking the population in general or those that voted? If they did not vote they are not part of the mandate. You can not have such an extreme shift in power on both the state and federal level and claim there is no mandate.

Nice spin to try and say you are not part of the democrats views when you use their talking points
 
You have proof for those figures? Are you talking the population in general or those that voted? If they did not vote they are not part of the mandate. You can not have such an extreme shift in power on both the state and federal level and claim there is no mandate.

Nice spin to try and say you are not part of the democrats views when you use their talking points

Linked above.

And yes, you can have a shift and not have a mandate. Dissatifiaction leads to a shift, but it would be a mistake to think that says anything about what they want.

And I repeat, I don';t speak for anyone other than myself. Not the left, whoever they are. Not mongolian moose on the beartooth. Just myself.
 
Nearly four-in-ten (39%) said that reducing the deficit should be the highest priority for the next Congress while nearly as many said spending to create jobs (37%). Fewer voters (19%) rated cutting taxes as the highest priority.

Similarly, voters were divided over whether to repeal health care reform (48%) or maintain or even expand it (16% leave as is, 31% expand).

A Clear Rejection of the Status Quo, No Consensus about Future Policies - Pew Research Center

I ask again, where is the mandate there?

The mandate is in the policies Obama and the democrats put in place. The voters are against them your link shows that. Where is the percetage that support tis policy?

I would say this sums up the mandate.

Opinion: Mandate for GOP or anti-Obama? - Dave Hoppe - POLITICO.com
 
Notice the numbers. 48% want repeal. 47% want the same or more. With any reasonable margin of error, that's a dead heat. Right down the middle. Opinion pieces don't change that.

Problem is by electing the GOP and Tea party people they gave them the mandate to do what they campaigned on.
 
Problem is by electing the GOP and Tea party people they gave them the mandate to do what they campaigned on.

Not really. If they do as they please, they will be short timers. Again, the numbers show this problem rather clearly.
 
Not really. If they do as they please, they will be short timers. Again, the numbers show this problem rather clearly.

Wrong like I said they have a mandate to do what the campaigned on. Such things as to repeal Obama care and cut spending and lower the deficit. The GOP will demand pay go be followed.
 
Wrong like I said they have a mandate to do what the campaigned on. Such things as to repeal Obama care and cut spending and lower the deficit. The GOP will demand pay go be followed.

As one republican told me the other day, he repsents all in hsi district and not just the ones who voted for him. I think that is true. But, again, the representative that doesn't look at the division, doesn't see the complication of this division, will be a short timer. I'm betting they are smart than you give them credit for.
 
As one republican told me the other day, he repsents all in hsi district and not just the ones who voted for him. I think that is true. But, again, the representative that doesn't look at the division, doesn't see the complication of this division, will be a short timer. I'm betting they are smart than you give them credit for.

If they do not do what they campaigned on they will be gone
 
If they do not do what they campaigned on they will be gone

That's the problem with demonizing and not seeking to govern rationally. I suspect some will be gone either way. I'm just pointing out that logically, they can't win by ignoring hal the electorate in the long run.
 
That's the problem with demonizing and not seeking to govern rationally. I suspect some will be gone either way. I'm just pointing out that logically, they can't win by ignoring hal the electorate in the long run.

Wrong they were elected because of these things. You don't like it but they will push forward. Obama will not get away with pushing a socialist agenda anymore
 
Wrong they were elected because of these things. You don't like it but they will push forward. Obama will not get away with pushing a socialist agenda anymore


What socialist agenda is Obama pushing? Are you talking about bailing out retired peoples pensions via AIG?
 
Wrong they were elected because of these things. You don't like it but they will push forward. Obama will not get away with pushing a socialist agenda anymore

Please, I ask again, be original. That tried old tactic was dead after the civil war. There is no socialist agenda. That is make believe and a pruely partisan attack effort.
 
Please, I ask again, be original. That tried old tactic was dead after the civil war. There is no socialist agenda. That is make believe and a pruely partisan attack effort.

What do you call the massive expansion of govt., the trillion dollar cash infusion from the taxpayer, transfer of taxdollars to those that don't pay taxes, govt. involvement in healthcare, the car business, banks? Lawrence O'Donnell had no problem admitting that he was a socialist, seems that isn't the case with you.
 
Please, I ask again, be original. That tried old tactic was dead after the civil war. There is no socialist agenda. That is make believe and a pruely partisan attack effort.

Reason won't win it doesn't compute. You're talking to the tribe that 'doesn't get' what the rest tend to.
 
What do you call the massive expansion of govt., the trillion dollar cash infusion from the taxpayer, transfer of taxdollars to those that don't pay taxes, govt. involvement in healthcare, the car business, banks? Lawrence O'Donnell had no problem admitting that he was a socialist, seems that isn't the case with you.


so·cial·ism   /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled
[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA

–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com

Our government does not control the means of production, of capital or land. No socialism. Sorry. :coffeepap
 
so·cial·ism   /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled
[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA

–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com

Our government does not control the means of production, of capital or land. No socialism. Sorry. :coffeepap

You just had to bring facts into this, didn't you Boo!?

Party pooper.
 
The American non-Thinker is hardly a viable source. In fact, I think reading it makes the average person lose ten IQ points with each article read.


Just saying . . . :shrug:


That must be why I have a headache now.
 
so·cial·ism   /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled
[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA

–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com

Our government does not control the means of production, of capital or land. No socialism. Sorry. :coffeepap

Google a "Broken President" and see what sites pop up, I posted the first link but there are more including the Baltimore Sun and other papers. Again you attack the messenger and ignore the message. Why is it you ignore who you are? Think that your comments don't define you?

Taking over GM/Chrysler, Implementing National Healthcare where the goal was a single payer, giving tax cuts to individuals who don't pay taxes is a transfer from the taxpayer to those who don't pay taxes. Do you think that being in denial changes reality?
 
Google a "Broken President" and see what sites pop up, I posted the first link but there are more including the Baltimore Sun and other papers. Again you attack the messenger and ignore the message. Why is it you ignore who you are? Think that your comments don't define you?

Taking over GM/Chrysler, Implementing National Healthcare where the goal was a single payer, giving tax cuts to individuals who don't pay taxes is a transfer from the taxpayer to those who don't pay taxes. Do you think that being in denial changes reality?

The definition of socialism doesn't fit your wild accusations.

And by the way conservative, the government may have had a majority shareholdings in GM/Chrysler but as I understand it, they've either given up that Majority Stake, or they're in the process of doing so.

Obamas Government is not socialist, the sooner you realise that, the sooner you can actually attack him on THINGS THAT MATTER.

You do your side no credit by making ignorant accusations.

Educate yourself.
 
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