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good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

OscarB63 said:
"less lethal" kind of an oxymoron isn't it? either something is lethal or it isn't.
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No, there are degrees of lethality.

OscarB63 said:
but if we want to go down that road, not all "bullets" have the same lethality. I didn't see any mention in the article of the calibur bullet she used.
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I'm not aware of a hand gun which is less lethal than a brick when you're targeting a civilian unequipped with body armor at close range.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
No, there are degrees of lethality.



I'm not aware of a hand gun which is less lethal than a brick when you're targeting a civilian unequipped with body armor at close range.
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irrelevant, If you come running at me with a brick over head, I am more than within my rights to Mozambique your ass... :prof
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I'm not aware of a hand gun which is less lethal than a brick when you're targeting a civilian unequipped with body armor at close range.
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One that shoots you in the arm.

Besides, here's the thing: When confronted with a threat, you need to be willing and able to take action one step above whatever action they are threatening. They had bricks. She had a gun. She demanded they leave her property and drop the bricks. They refused to do either. So, they brought a brick to a gun fight. They learned a lesson. Little old lady not such a weak target anymore now, is she? They didn't THINK she would shoot, they didn't think she'd do jack ****ing ****, or was capable of it. Hence why they targeted her to begin with. Now they know differently. Now maybe they'll stop busting her windows, setting fire to her property, and otherwise dangerously harassing her.
 
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rivrrat said:
One that shoots you in the arm.

Besides, here's the thing: When confronted with a threat, you need to be willing and able to take action one step above whatever action they are threatening. They had bricks. She had a gun. She demanded they leave her property and drop the bricks. They refused to do either. So, they brought a brick to a gun fight. They learned a lesson. Little old lady not such a weak target anymore now, is she? They didn't THINK she would shoot, they didn't think she'd do jack ****ing ****, or was capable of it. Hence why they targeted her to begin with. Now they know differently. Now maybe they'll stop busting her windows, setting fire to her property, and otherwise dangerously harassing her.
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I teach this.... I tell folks you have the rest of your life to win a gun fight, as this kid almost found out. :prof
 
If you are going to act like a punk, don't cry like a little bitch when you get treated like a punk
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
irrelevant, If you come running at me with a brick over head, I am more than within my rights to Mozambique your ass... :prof
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Of course, if I'm just walking down the street and don't have a brick in hand...
 
rivrrat said:
One that shoots you in the arm.

Besides, here's the thing: When confronted with a threat, you need to be willing and able to take action one step above whatever action they are threatening. They had bricks. She had a gun. She demanded they leave her property and drop the bricks. They refused to do either. So, they brought a brick to a gun fight. They learned a lesson. Little old lady not such a weak target anymore now, is she? They didn't THINK she would shoot, they didn't think she'd do jack ****ing ****, or was capable of it. Hence why they targeted her to begin with. Now they know differently. Now maybe they'll stop busting her windows, setting fire to her property, and otherwise dangerously harassing her.
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This actually brings me back to my other point -- she wasn't trying to hit the kid, but she hit him anyway.

The woman was a danger to the neighborhood.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
This actually brings me back to my other point -- she wasn't trying to hit the kid, but she hit him anyway.

The woman was a danger to the neighborhood.
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only because the cops were unable to protect her from the real danger to the neighborhood...a gang of punk ass kids.
 
funny how some people want to defend these punk ass kids...until it is their home/family that is threatened. Then they scream and cry about why didn't somebody do something earlier they knew that these guys were a threat...blah, blah, blah.
 
If this woman was defending against being attacked, then she has every right to defend herself. However, I don't see anywhere that her life was in danger, she was being harassed by these kids. She should have called the police in my opinion.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
This actually brings me back to my other point -- she wasn't trying to hit the kid, but she hit him anyway.

The woman was a danger to the neighborhood.
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Yeah... SHE was the danger. :roll:

Some punk ass kids set fire to her property, throw bricks through her window and do various other damages and harrassment and SHE is the danger to the neighborhood. Brilliant.
 
OscarB63 said:
only because the cops were unable to protect her from the real danger to the neighborhood...a gang of punk ass kids.
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Doesn't matter. She was a threat to the neighborhood. She fired a weapon she couldn't control in a highly populated area. You can't talk your way around that.

OscarB63 said:
funny how some people want to defend these punk ass kids...until it is their home/family that is threatened. Then they scream and cry about why didn't somebody do something earlier they knew that these guys were a threat...blah, blah, blah.
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I have no interest in defending the little neanderthals.

I'm holding the old woman's behavior to a standard.
 
rivrrat said:
Yeah... SHE was the danger. :roll:

Some punk ass kids set fire to her property, throw bricks through her window and do various other damages and harrassment and SHE is the danger to the neighborhood. Brilliant.
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Yeah, she was. See above.
 
pbrauer said:
If this woman was defending against being attacked, then she has every right to defend herself. However, I don't see anywhere that her life was in danger, she was being harassed by these kids. She should have called the police in my opinion.
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She did call the police. The police had just left. She (and other neighbors) had called the police and had the kids picked up several times. Fat lot of good the police did, eh?
 
I like how "maybe trying to kill these kids wasn't the appropriate response" is translated into "supporting/defending a gang" in a conservative brain.

And yes, she fired a gun at the kid. That's trying to kill them.
 
pbrauer said:
If this woman was defending against being attacked, then she has every right to defend herself. However, I don't see anywhere that her life was in danger, she was being harassed by these kids. She should have called the police in my opinion.
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read the story, she had already called the cops, after the cops left the kids came back.
 
rivrrat said:
No, she's the hero of the neighborhood.
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Only because she didn't accidentally shoot someone else. She accidentally shot the socially acceptable person, that's why she's a hero.

You shouldn't be rewarded for endangering the lives of other people and being lucky enough that you didn't hurt them.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Only because she didn't accidentally shoot someone else. She accidentally shot the socially acceptable person, that's why she's a hero.

You shouldn't be rewarded for endangering the lives of other people and being lucky enough that you didn't hurt them.
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The kids were the danger.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Only because she didn't accidentally shoot someone else. She accidentally shot the socially acceptable person, that's why she's a hero.

You shouldn't be rewarded for endangering the lives of other people and being lucky enough that you didn't hurt them.
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The problem with that line of thinking is that one cannot punish a person for what might have happened. Any number of things might have happened.
 
rivrrat said:
The kids were the danger.
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Only if you make the assumption that the kids came back to do harm to her, and this article gives no evidence of that.
 
Coronado said:
The problem with that line of thinking is that one cannot punish a person for what might have happened. Any number of things might have happened.
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true, the kid "might" have hit her in the head with the brick and killed her...let's put him in prison for the rest of his life because he obviously is a danger to society.
 
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