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Obama: Critics 'talk about me like a dog'

he never promised flowers and candy, like someone else i remember.
really????? were you asleep during the entire campaign??? he made more promises than I care to remember.
 
So then...no one was really calling Obama a nigger and you were basically just trying to play a race card without there even being any racism.

Glad we cleared that up.




I'm still curious how calling Obama a "nigger" is more racist than calling another black person a "nigger" as he claimed.
 
That didn't answer the question.

It needed to be asked.

'Bama does get the brunt of racism claims, yet NC and TX have larger KKK memberships.
 
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So then...no one was really calling Obama a nigger and you were basically just trying to play a race card without there even being any racism.

Glad we cleared that up.
We? You should know that in my house I don't allow the derogatory words describing gays either...
There are more than one race cards in the deck. There are still lots of people around who hate blacks just for being black, and they have their own race card to play.
Have you never heard anyone say they would never vote for someone because he is _________________? Insert your own derogatory term in the blank, please. Surely you are familiar with most of them, being a poster from WAY back....
 
really????? were you asleep during the entire campaign??? he made more promises than I care to remember.

As I recall, the oceans should be 27 months into receding, but I don't think that's the case.
 
It needed to be asked.

'Bama does get the brunt of racism claims, yet NC and TX have larger KKK memberships.
Actually, the entire southeast gets blamed for it, even tho they have progressed pretty far since the 60's...
 
nice talking points. but that's all they are.

If they're "talking points," they are your own, because I'm feeding what you said back at you.

Besides, that's simply more deflection. Don't want to answer? Call it "talking points."


the recovery is slow, but it will happen

According to the White House, it was supposed to be in full swing this summer. Which leads to:

he never promised flowers and candy

But he did promise a "Recovery Summer."

And according to you, that puts him in the ranks of the ignorant.

But no, you deflect criticism on those grounds thusly:

so he was wrong. so? it's taking longer than expected. so?

So yeah, according to you, he can do no wrong, even when by your own terms, he's being "ignorant."


like someone else i remember.

No idea what or who you're referring to, but it's entirely irrelevant. That someone else isn't POTUS.
 
It's funny this thread was about Obama whining and it seems someone had to make it about race and evil conservatives.... :roll:
 
here we go...yes, unemployment is bad. yes, we have high spending. however, i think unemployment would have been worse had we not spent. as far as the healthcare bill goes......who knows how that will turn out? maybe it needs tweaked, but it's a start. i would happily give any president a chance, something it seems you are unwilling to do.

The point is that they have spent not just 4 trillion in 18 months but 4 trillion OVER the budget...and have gotten nothing in return. Look...if you hire someone new to run your business because you didnt like the direction the last manager took your business you dont excuse it because the last guy screwed up too. You fire his ass like you fired the last guy and find someone competant.

They hant 'created' any new jobs. All they have done is facilitated continued bad business practices and done so to the tune of 4 trillion dollars over a budget that is already obscene. Good lord...think about it for a second...they could have given every adult American...lets see...4 trillion divided by 100 million...carry the two...what...$40,000.00. They could have paid off the mortgage for every American with home values under $250,000.00. Should they have? NO! But if they are going to put our grandchildren and great grandchildren in debt to the tune of 24% of the national debt in just 18 months...seriously...seriously???

Your president presides over a party that has been in power for 4 years now. Do you just conveniently gloss over that fact? Bush never spent a dime since Pelosi and Reid took over 4 years ago that democrats didnt authorize. He didnt sign a piece of legislation that democrats didnt pass. In the 4 years since they took over the unemployment rate went from 4.5% to 9.6% with real unemployment near 18%. Unfettered, democrats spent 4 trillion OVER BUDGET in 18 months.

no...Im not thrilled with the prospect of more time under democrat rule. And Im also not thrilled with republicans back in charge. I would love to see some fiscal conservatives actually in charge...democrat, or republican.
 
So, you are an expert on Utah as well?
Being in the military you should know that you respect the office if you can't respect the man. Obama is POTUS, and using the N word about him is especially disrespectful of the office.
I know a lot of people from the southeast, I was raised in east texas in the 60's. Lots of bigots there at the time.. It has become increasingly unpopular to be openlly racist, but they are still there. Look at a red/blue map, the entire southeast is red, minus Florida. BTW, voting democrat doesn't automatically make you a liberal.

Dude...Ive lived in the south...and I know a little about Utah...and for you to ridicule Alabamas lack of liberal ideology and representation...thats just a bit goofy.

I would not have nor ever did ridicule a CiC...when on active duty. im civilian...and if ever there was a weak lame leader...its this one.
 
no...im not thrilled with the prospect of more time under democrat rule. And im also not thrilled with republicans back in charge. I would love to see some fiscal conservatives actually in charge...democrat, or republican.

amen brother
 
I'm still curious how calling Obama a "nigger" is more racist than calling another black person a "nigger" as he claimed.

Why would you want to use that word in the first place? As a black man I hate the word and I try to make sure my kids don't use it. However, to clarify, when alot of blacks use the word, they identify everyone (white, black, mexican) with the word. For example "that Nigga George Bush is a idiot" has been said a thousand times in barbershops I went to. The reason it is a taboo for whites to use it is because they will only reference blacks as Niggas. I just can't see anyone white using the N word towards another race outside of black race. So that is why it is seen as racist when white people use it.

But again, why would you want to use that word?
 
We? You should know that in my house I don't allow the derogatory words describing gays either...
There are more than one race cards in the deck. There are still lots of people around who hate blacks just for being black, and they have their own race card to play.
Have you never heard anyone say they would never vote for someone because he is _________________? Insert your own derogatory term in the blank, please. Surely you are familiar with most of them, being a poster from WAY back....

OK...that's great. I don't disagree with any of that.

Now do me a favor and relate that issue to THIS thread.
 
The reason it is a taboo for whites to use it is because they will only reference blacks as Niggas. I just can't see anyone white using the N word towards another race outside of black race. So that is why it is seen as racist when white people use it.

Personally, I don't use the word, but in my opinion "nigger" is a description of character, not of color. I have met many a cracker that could justifiably be called "nigger"
However, given the history behind the usage of the term, I think it would be in the best interest of all parties in NO ONE used it.
 
Some powerful interests who had been dominating the agenda in Washington for a very long time and they're not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog. That's not in my prepared remarks, but it's true

Does anyone actually believe the bolded?
 
If they're "talking points," they are your own, because I'm feeding what you said back at you.

Besides, that's simply more deflection. Don't want to answer? Call it "talking points."




According to the White House, it was supposed to be in full swing this summer. Which leads to:



But he did promise a "Recovery Summer."

And according to you, that puts him in the ranks of the ignorant.

But no, you deflect criticism on those grounds thusly:



So yeah, according to you, he can do no wrong, even when by your own terms, he's being "ignorant."




No idea what or who you're referring to, but it's entirely irrelevant. That someone else isn't POTUS.

good lord, we are recovering.
 
Democrats have controlled every piece of legislation that has been signed by Bush OR Obama for 4 years. In 18 months Obama and co have spent 4 TRILLION dollars MORE than their budget...and have...what to show for it? Unemployment has steadily INCREASED. And none of those costs figure in the cost of healthcare...legislation which most democrats voted for without even reading and NOW are coming out saying its flawed. How many more years do you want to give them?

6 more. thanks for asking.
 
6 more. thanks for asking.

Nice response. now...seriously? is your ideology REALLy so important to you that you endorse 6 more years of spending so much money that they didnt even bother presenting a budget? so...at the current rate of spending and since the answer to EVERY problem for a democrat is raise taxes and spend money...then we can expect in that next 6 years another 12 trillion in debt, no new jobs...and...what precisely?

Sad thing is there are enough people dependent on mommy guv and/or committed to an ideology...that I think you are likely to get your wish.
 
good lord, we are recovering.

based on what evidence, other than a few speeches, do you get the sense that we are 'recovering'? Thats like saying your personal checkbook is $1000 in the hole, you dont make enough to pay your house payments, but you just took out a third mortgage to cover you for the next three months, so you are doing better.
 
Why would you want to use that word in the first place? As a black man I hate the word and I try to make sure my kids don't use it. However, to clarify, when alot of blacks use the word, they identify everyone (white, black, mexican) with the word. For example "that Nigga George Bush is a idiot" has been said a thousand times in barbershops I went to. The reason it is a taboo for whites to use it is because they will only reference blacks as Niggas. I just can't see anyone white using the N word towards another race outside of black race. So that is why it is seen as racist when white people use it.

But again, why would you want to use that word?

I dont see where anyone WANTS to use that word. I suspect most people (ME specifically) are just tired of it. All of it. Im tired of the race card, Im tired of the pathetic excuses, Im tired of seeing capable people being told they cant succeed and falling for it, Im tired of people dancing around "the N word", Im tired of people being afraid to communicate openly...Im just flat out tired of all of it. I suspect Im not alone.
 
Why would you want to use that word in the first place? As a black man I hate the word and I try to make sure my kids don't use it. However, to clarify, when alot of blacks use the word, they identify everyone (white, black, mexican) with the word. For example "that Nigga George Bush is a idiot" has been said a thousand times in barbershops I went to. The reason it is a taboo for whites to use it is because they will only reference blacks as Niggas. I just can't see anyone white using the N word towards another race outside of black race. So that is why it is seen as racist when white people use it.

But again, why would you want to use that word?

I dont. :shrug:
 
So, we're back to Obama can do no wrong. :shrug: All righty, then.
she never said that, that is just your ignorant response to what she did say....
So far, all I have seen from the right is attacks on the left. If that is their campaign strategy, they are in trouble. Voters are tired of that crap, from both sides. They want a leader. Does the GOP have one yet? The DEMS think they do in Obama, but if he can't do something about controlling our borders, he might find himself out of a job.
 
she never said that, that is just your ignorant response to what she did say....
So far, all I have seen from the right is attacks on the left. If that is their campaign strategy, they are in trouble. Voters are tired of that crap, from both sides. They want a leader. Does the GOP have one yet? The DEMS think they do in Obama, but if he can't do something about controlling our borders, he might find himself out of a job.

good points. the tired old "anybody but XXX" will no longer work. Gore and Kerry tried that against Bush and we all know how well that worked out for them. No matter how badly Obama screws the pooch, unless the GOP can field a viable alternative they will find themselves out in the cold.
 
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