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GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

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Conservative said:
Nor does the CBO reflect the true cost of the Stimulus program due to very poor unemployment and very low economic growth. War is hell, my family members can tell you about it but the reality is 9/11 cost this country over a trillion dollars. Nothing is going to change your mind regarding the war in Iraq and I am not going to relive that war. The fact is Obama is in charge and has taken the Bush program in Iraq and imitated it in Afghanistan including the same cast of characters. Where is your outrage?
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:doh :doh:doh
 
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TurtleDude

how does a tax cut cost anything.
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When my grandchildren has to pay for it

Why do socialists believe that all money belongs to the government and a tax cut is the same as government spending or a handout
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where are the socialist?Is that a new memo out of Beckerville? :2wave:
 
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Conservative said:
What is your evidence that anyone doesn't need the income they earn and you you understand that it is their money first? Same tired old class envy rhetoric, different day. How about showing us where more revenue going to the govt. actually balanced the budget and paid down the debt. Donc, couldn't do it so give it a try?
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His evidence is that the rich giving themselves tax breaks while the rest us are being put out on the street is utter and complete idiocy.
 
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Vader said:
His evidence is that the rich giving themselves tax breaks while the rest us are being put out on the street is utter and complete idiocy.
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yeah, the rich dems use tax hikes to get people like you-who operate on class envy-to vote for them because rich dems need more government to stay wealthy
 
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donc said:
When my grandchildren has to pay for it



where are the socialist?Is that a new memo out of Beckerville? :2wave:
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more nonsense-the only thing that has to be paid for is government spending

quit expecting others to pay for the goodies you want
 
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donc said:
When my grandchildren has to pay for it



where are the socialist?Is that a new memo out of Beckerville? :2wave:
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Why would your grandchildren have to pay for your keeping MORE OF WHAT YOU EARN? You seem to confuse your income with what the govt. spends.
 
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Vader said:
His evidence is that the rich giving themselves tax breaks while the rest us are being put out on the street is utter and complete idiocy.
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Do you realize that a tax break can only benefit someone who has earned income? If they don't earn anything they don't get a tax break. Allowing people to keep more of what they earn somehow is an expense to a liberal. Explain?
 
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Goldenboy219 said:
FWIW, the savings and loans crisis produced 2300+ bank failures, where as during the GD, over 9000 banks failed.
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The point of my post was that when tax rates are lowered to a great degree, there is a crash that follows. The Great Depression, Black Monday with Reagan and the current economic mess after Bush's tax cuts. That higher taxes produces a more stable economy, that is not what most people want to hear, but it might be the bitter pill we must swallow.
 
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Goldenboy219 said:
FWIW, the savings and loans crisis produced 2300+ bank failures, where as during the GD, over 9000 banks failed.
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That is what happens in free enterprise and capitalism so what is your point? When businesses fail someone else comes in and picks up the pieces. I thought that is what Libertarians believed.
 
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pbrauer said:
The point of my post was that when tax rates are lowered to a great degree, there is a crash that follows. The Great Depression, Black Monday with Reagan and the current economic mess after Bush's tax cuts. That higher taxes produces a more stable economy, that is not what most people want to hear, but it might be the bitter pill we must swallow.
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Why do you broadbrush everything? 80% of our private sector consists of small businesses and those are the ones hurt by high taxes. A few large entities violated the laws in place so the liberal way is to overreact and penalize everyone. 16 million Americans are reported as unemployed today and that excludes the small businesses and contractors that lost their business and jobs due to this overreach of the Federal govt.

Go ahead and raise taxes then tell your wife why your take home pay is less. you continue to ignore that there wouldn't be any tax revenue at all if individuals and businesses didn't generate and make income.
 
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Conservative said:
Why do you broadbrush everything? 80% of our private sector consists of small businesses and those are the ones hurt by high taxes. A few large entities violated the laws in place so the liberal way is to overreact and penalize everyone. 16 million Americans are reported as unemployed today and that excludes the small businesses and contractors that lost their business and jobs due to this overreach of the Federal govt.

Go ahead and raise taxes then tell your wife why your take home pay is less. you continue to ignore that there wouldn't be any tax revenue at all if individuals and businesses didn't generate and make income.
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GOP blocks small biz bill
 
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pbrauer said:
I give, how much pork is in the bill?
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Do some research instead of buying everything this Administration tells you. They claimed that passing the stimulus would cap unemployment at 8%, how did that work out for you? Now they call this bill fully funded, how?

Should tell you something about this bill when the Democrats cannot get Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins on board.
 
RightinNYC said:
You realize the Democrats are proposing to reauthorize the vast majority of the Bush tax cuts, right? Contrary to the last 8 years of claims that the tax cuts for the wealthy caused the deficit, $202b of the $238b in "lost" revenue comes from keeping the lower taxes on people making under $250k. The "cost" of the lower taxes on people making over $250k is a little over 2% of the 1.4 trillion dollar deficit we'll have in 2011. But yea, it's all Bush's fault.
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That must be opinon as I see nothing to back it up. Linky please?
 
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Conservative said:
Why would your grandchildren have to pay for your keeping MORE OF WHAT YOU EARN? You seem to confuse your income with what the govt. spends.
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If we extend the tax cuts for the top 1% someone will have to pay for new yachts for the trust fund babies.:2wave:
 
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donc said:
If we extend the tax cuts for the top 1% someone will have to pay for new yachts for the trust fund babies.:2wave:
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Actually the income earner would pay for that yacht as always happens in the private sector
 
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Conservative said:
Do some research instead of buying everything this Administration tells you. They claimed that passing the stimulus would cap unemployment at 8%, how did that work out for you? Now they call this bill fully funded, how?

Should tell you something about this bill when the Democrats cannot get Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins on board.
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The GOP is playing politics with this bill, they don't want anything good to happen while Obama is President. It shouldn't matter if the bill is fully paid for or not. If my memory serves, this bill gets funds loopholes that reward big business for exporting jobs.
 
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pbrauer said:
The GOP is playing politics with this bill, they don't want anything good to happen while Obama is President. It shouldn't matter if the bill is fully paid for or not. If my memory serves, this bill gets funds loopholes that reward big business for exporting jobs.
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Obama had his chance and the results are what the country is seeing, at least those capable of being objective. There is a reason this bill is being held up. You continue to buy what the Administration tells you even though it is an Administration of lies. It appears nothing is ever going to change the mind of a liberal ideologue including actual facts. The majority in this country are looking at the facts. When will you?
 
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Conservative said:
Obama had his chance and the results are what the country is seeing, at least those capable of being objective. There is a reason this bill is being held up. You continue to buy what the Administration tells you even though it is an Administration of lies. It appears nothing is ever going to change the mind of a liberal ideologue including actual facts. The majority in this country are looking at the facts. When will you?
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"The majority in this country are looking at the facts."

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!

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EnigmaO01 said:
"The majority in this country are looking at the facts."

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!

:lamo:lamo:lamo
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then refute it, 16 million reported unemployed and that doesn't count the business owners that shutdown and the contractors that are out of work not counted in the number. Those great numbers for you? So exactly why are the poll numbers so bad for Obama if things are so great?
 
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Conservative said:
Obama had his chance and the results are what the country is seeing, at least those capable of being objective. There is a reason this bill is being held up. You continue to buy what the Administration tells you even though it is an Administration of lies. It appears nothing is ever going to change the mind of a liberal ideologue including actual facts. The majority in this country are looking at the facts. When will you?
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Of course there is a reason why the bill is being held up, it because the GOP is playing politics and doesn't want Obama to succeed.
 
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pbrauer said:
Of course there is a reason why the bill is being held up, it because the GOP is playing politics and doesn't want Obama to succeed.
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Actually it is being held up due to the lies of this Administration and their inability to do anything they claim. This bill doesn't pay for itself.
 
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Conservative said:
Actually it is being held up due to the lies of this Administration and their inability to do anything they claim. This bill doesn't pay for itself.
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So you want to extend at the Bush tax cuts which are not paid for, but when it comes to helping small business which by your own admission is responsible for 80% of the jobs in this country, you say no way Jose? That's just too funny for words.
 
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