Harry Guerrilla
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Well you could always become the first lady :2razz:
That's an idea. :lol:
Well you could always become the first lady :2razz:
It should come as not surprise that the author of this hit piece is a frequent Fox News contributor.
Tantaros thinks Obama should model Bush's vacation schedule? | Media Matters for America
Okay, granted, the cost FLOTUS and her daughter's trip to Spain likely wasn't all on their own nickle, but let's be honest here, folks. Can it ever be?
She IS the First Lady. As such, she has to have the Secret Service around to protect her and her daughter not only whenever she (FLOTUS) travels INCONUS but abroad. To those complaining about her travel and lodging arrangements, do you honestly believe she can travel first class like the rest of us? C'mon! Not since the days of Eisenhower have the President and the FLOTUS travelled by anything less than the most secure means at the taxpayer's expense. That said, we don't know if the FLOTUS wanted to travel via other means or if the Secret Service insisted that using AF1.5 was the best way to keep her and her daughter safe.
As to the lodging...it seems rather lavish, but again was it her idea, the Secret Service or the Spanish government's insistance? Are they staying there on the taxpayer's dime or did she pay out of her own pocket? How much of her shopping spree is out of her own pocket versus how much will the taxpayers pickup? And how often has this happened with former FLOTUS? Which brings us back to the same questions so many have repeatedly asked to those who apparently are upset about this:
"Where you that pissed off when Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagon, Betty Ford or Patricia Nixon all took trips abroad on the taxpayer's dime? Or were you just upset when Jackie-O, Rosaline Carter and Hillary Clinton did it?"
It would be even more wonderful if supported what you said.Objective Voice said:Where'd you get the 72 Secret Service members figure from and the per room rate?
VanceMack said:"But while most of the country is pinching pennies and downsizing summer sojourns - or forgoing them altogether - the Obamas don't seem to be heeding their own advice. While many of us are struggling, the First Lady is spending the next few days in a five-star hotel on the chic Costa del Sol in southern Spain with 40 of her "closest friends." According to CNN, the group is expected to occupy 60 to 70 rooms, more than a third of the lodgings at the 160-room resort. Not exactly what one would call cutting back in troubled times.
Reports are calling the lodgings of Obama's Spanish fiesta, the Hotel Villa Padierna in Marbella, "luxurious," "posh" and "a millionaires' playground." Estimated room rate per night? Up to a staggering $2,500. Method of transportation? Air Force Two.
To be clear, what the Obamas do with their money is one thing; what they do with ours is another. Transporting and housing the estimated 70 Secret Service agents who will flank the material girl will cost the taxpayers a pretty penny."
Google is a wonderful thing...
VanceMack said:...rooms for 72 secret service members at 4k per room a night...
That's a very subjective opinion and I think her selection of clothing is partially cultural.
I never noticed they dressed like crap in Spain. That shirt is atrocious.
I never noticed they dressed like crap in Spain. That shirt is atrocious.
No, no they are not. :lamo
Oh wow, you quote media matters, to attack the author, instead of simply commenting on the topic.... YOU ROCK! :thumbs:
I sincerely hope the FLOTUS has a great trip in Spain. She promotes positive living and the American dream of prosperity. (text ripped from the poll) :mrgreen:
Um... aren't you the same people who usually defend the rich from "unfair taxation" and the like? Why do you suddenly care what the Obama family does with their personal money?
rev, were you bothered when laura bush took trips? i'm betting not.
Aparrently this poster missed this, in a failed attempt at a strawman. :shrug:
It would be even more wonderful if supported what you said.
That's a very subjective opinion and I think her selection of clothing is partially cultural.
That's an idea. :lol:
I think he's saying black people dress like crap. :shrug:
I hope not, because when it comes to sartorial elegance, IMHO black people's dress sense is superb.
I hope not, because when it comes to sartorial elegance, IMHO black people's dress sense is superb.
Since many of you ask when there are stories about presidential vacation travel: Mrs. Obama always flies on a U.S. government plane; she pays personal expenses herself. Her friends are not flying with her. She will travel with "minimal" staff.
This is for the critics who are still complaining about the FLOTUS personal vacations. From the Chicago Sun-Times
"Michelle Obama adds Spain trip to 2010 vacation schedule"
By Lynn Sweeton July 27, 2010 9:22 AM
Of course, critics have questioned why so many "private" vacations on "official" business. Well, I don't think the FLOTUS could travel on a private charter plan regardless who how many would rather she did so. Again, her "status" all but requires it. Besides, let's say she did go private, commercial charter plane. Many people who still complain that she's spending tax payer money for a private plane when there's already gov't air transportation provided for the 1st Family...at the taxpayer's expense, of course, but it's how she's suppose to travel in her official public capacity as FLOTUS. She really can't win for losing here.
As I see it, if most of the things she and her daughter's buys comes from their own purse strings (other than air transportation costs), why should it matter where she goes or when? IT'S HER OWN MONEY for the most part. And let's be honest...
You [the critics] have all been so supportive of people having the right to go wherever they want if they can afford to do so using their own money. Well, as you've just read when it's a "official/private" venture, she pays her own way for the most part. Other than the air transportation issue which I really don't think she can get away from, where's the problem?
If she is on official business then she should fly on US government transportation. If she is on a personal vacation she should either fly commercial and pay all expenses or if that isn't possible for security reasons, she should pay all costs of government transportation out of her own pocket..... that goes for Barry too.
You don't even have a clue how the secret service works do you?