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MKULTRABOY · Jul 28, 2010

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Your article from the open source wikipedia claims that he is Jewish but the link provided in the citation section breaks, this article claims he is white.

OOooooOOoOhh, racist! :rofl:

Tashah · Jul 29, 2010

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Laila said:
If 6 million Africans died, no one would care imo

My sister and I always partake of your threads about Africa/Somalia and what is going on there. I would care. My sister would care. How many others in this huge forum besides Infinite Chaos give a rat's ass about Africa? Extremely few. You can also count on one hand those who participate in thread's about other genocidal events. Mention the Holocaust though, and dozens of the terminally disinterested suddenly appear.

CaptainCourtesy · Jul 29, 2010

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apdst said:
Post your facts. Let's duke it out. I think you know as well as I do, that you'll end up looking foolish.

Against YOU? :lol: :lol: :lol: We both know that you will not accept anything that does not fit in your rigid view, no matter how much proof you are shown. Start a thread on it and I'll be there. Doing so here would be a major derail.

Agent Ferris · Jul 29, 2010

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SE102 said:
OOooooOOoOhh, racist! :rofl:

How the **** do you figure that?

Agent Ferris · Jul 29, 2010

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SE102 said:
And thanks to communism Eurasia didn't befall the same fate + enslavement. Also, 30 million or so Russians died to Nazism I dont know which brunt is bigger the 6 million or 30 million...

The Russians were just as responsible for WW2 as the Nazi's due to the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in which Hitler and Stalin agreed to divide up Europe between themselves, the Soviet Union was not innocent. Not to mention that Stalin engaged in a democide larger than Hitlers.

Well they must otherwise there wouldn't be a delineation between the two.

Mother ****ing prove it.

Anyways. Theres plenty of organizations who basically place pressure on media such as the anti-defamation league. There are tons of organizations just like it and more of them are Jewish really than any other.

More of them are Jewish than any other? Are you asserting that there are more Jewish special interests groups than any other special interest group? Are you insane?

I used to have a list somewhere.... hrrm where did it go.

I'm guessing up your ass from where you last pulled it.

Also a disproportionate 20% of the news media in the US have been raised in jewish households. Its in my old posts somewhere.

What do you define as news media, journalists, CEO's?, owners, anchors? What exactly? The amount of Jewish CEO's in the media was high compared to the population of the United States, however, it was right on target granted that most of these Corporations are headquartered in NYC which has a very large Jewish population compared with the rest of the country.

Demon of Light · Jul 29, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
So CEO's and Owners are the parameters then?

K, this isn't that hard sport.

Dude, white and Jewish are not mutually exclusive groups. Saying someone is white is not the same as saying someone is not Jewish.

lol you went back to grandparents to determine Jewish ethnicity, even the Nazi's used 3-4 Jewish grandparents, apparently you only need one Jewish grandparent for the grandchild to be considered Jewish. Look if you want to play that game I'm sure we could go back long enough in just about anyone's lineage to find some Jewish heritage.

I went back to grandparents due to a lack of information that I could find regarding the people today. Also ethnicity and heritage is certainly an important consideration. Even Jews who have converted to Christianity are still deeply tied to the Jewish community.

So you see people in terms of tribes rather than as individuals.

Quite putting words in my mouth. I am not talking about how I see people, but how others tend to see people. Successful black people will tend to put money back into causes for black people. When someone strongly identifies with a people they tend to support that people as much as they can.

Let me guess, like supporting Israel?

That would be a cause shared by the Jewish people. Why are you so fixated on Israel?

Strasser united with Schleicher not Rohm.

That was years before.

The main reason why the Night of the Long Knives occurred was because the German military wanted Rohm gone because Rohm wanted to absorb the German Military into the SA eliminating the aristocratic leadership and putting the reigns of power into his own hands, that and the independence of the SA constituted a direct threat to Hitler's total consolidation of power. There was no room for Rohm in Hitler's Germany.

You can interpret it however you like, but ultimately it was their leftism that caused the most concern and is ultimately the source of friction. The fact Strasser was targeted despite not being involved in the SA at the time is all the more proof of this.

Winston Smith · Jul 29, 2010

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Fiddytree said:
That is by far the single dumbest thing anyone can say about Stone. Anyone who knows a lick about history likes to puke at his work.

I've heard quite a few history lectures in the short time I've been on this site...most of them from people who didn't seem to know much about history.

Agent Ferris · Jul 29, 2010

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Demon of Light said:
Dude, white and Jewish are not mutually exclusive groups. Saying someone is white is not the same as saying someone is not Jewish.

Dude those listings specifically differentiate between white and Jewish.

I went back to grandparents due to a lack of information that I could find regarding the people today.

How many grandparents of Jewish descent makes someone themselves a Jew?

Also ethnicity and heritage is certainly an important consideration. Even Jews who have converted to Christianity are still deeply tied to the Jewish community.

Ya Jews who are now Christians are still Jews. :roll: Once a member of the tribe always a member of the tribe right?

Anyways you clearly stated that being white and being Jewish is not mutually exlcusive, so either Judaism is an ethnicity or it is a religion, which is it?

Quite putting words in my mouth. I am not talking about how I see people, but how others tend to see people. Successful black people will tend to put money back into causes for black people. When someone strongly identifies with a people they tend to support that people as much as they can.

Ya ya Jews who are only 1/4 Jewish, consider themselves to be Christians still look out for Jews. Once a a member of the tribe always a member of the tribe. :roll:

That would be a cause shared by the Jewish people. Why are you so fixated on Israel?

It's clear what your agenda here is. Once again compared to the Jewish population in NYC where the corporate headquarters for most media outlets are located the Jews do not have disproportionate representation in media ownership, not to mention that CEO's don't play a very large roll in actual journalism that takes place in media outlets to begin with.

That was years before.

About two years.

You can interpret it however you like, but ultimately it was their leftism that caused the most concern and is ultimately the source of friction. The fact Strasser was targeted despite not being involved in the SA at the time is all the more proof of this.

No ultimately it was Rohm's push to have the SA absorb the regular military into its fold and the fact that Rohm wouldn't fall in line behind Hitler, this is common knowledge for Christ's sakes. In order to get the military to give him their full support Hitler needed to take out Rohm and Hitler wanted Rohm gone anyways because he was a rival within the party who as head of the SA posed a threat to Hitler's position.

Demon of Light · Jul 29, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
Dude those listings specifically differentiate between white and Jewish.

Really?:

Les Moonves

AKA Leslie Moonves

Born: 6-Oct-1949
Birthplace: New York City

Gender: Male
Religion: Jewish
Race or Ethnicity: White

Obviously not.

Ya Jews who are now Christians are still Jews. :roll: Once a member of the tribe always a member of the tribe right?

Consider this:

In a list of the wealthiest jewellers published alongside the overall Rich List, five of the top 10 are Jewish. Nicky Oppenheimer, Lev Leviev, Laurence Graff and Benny Steinmetz are the top four, with Danny Fiszman at number seven. Mr Oppenheimer and Mr Leviev, new entries this year, are respectively estimated to be worth £2,870 million and £2,500 million.

Source: Jewish Chronicle

The Oppenheimers converted to Anglicanism several generations ago yet here a major paper for British Jews still considers the latest generation Jewish.

Anyways you clearly stated that being white and being Jewish is not mutually exlcusive, so either Judaism is an ethnicity or it is a religion, which is it?

Ethnicity is not the same thing as race either.

It's clear what your agenda here is. Once again compared to the Jewish population in NYC where the corporate headquarters for most media outlets are located the Jews do not have disproportionate representation in media ownership, not to mention that CEO's don't play a very large roll in actual journalism that takes place in media outlets to begin with.

You only counted three as being Jewish, partly because you apparently think Jewish and white are mutually exclusive, when in fact there are more and you ignored the CEO of NBC itself focusing on who runs GE, which will be a non-issue soon with regards to NBC, and NBC has always had a bit of autonomy.

About two years.

The number doesn't matter, because it was referring to something long before he was killed.

No ultimately it was Rohm's push to have the SA absorb the regular military into its fold and the fact that Rohm wouldn't fall in line behind Hitler, this is common knowledge for Christ's sakes. In order to get the military to give him their full support Hitler needed to take out Rohm and Hitler wanted Rohm gone anyways because he was a rival within the party who as head of the SA posed a threat to Hitler's position.

Like I said, you interpret it however you like. Your version doesn't explain why Strasser was targeted.

Agent Ferris · Jul 29, 2010

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Demon of Light said:
Really?:

Obviously not.

:roll: Holy **** it obviously lists whether or not they are Jewish.

Consider this:

Source: Jewish Chronicle

The Oppenheimers converted to Anglicanism several generations ago yet here a major paper for British Jews still considers the latest generation Jewish.

So ****ing what, do the Oppenheimers consider themselves to be Jewish? Obviously not. And a major paper with a total readership of 120,000 for the giant Jewish population of the U.K. of a whopping 250,000. :roll:

Ethnicity is not the same thing as race either.

Ethnicity can include race, when discussing Jews as an ethnicity we use their religion to determine that ethnicity, but it is clear you are not using their religion to determine that ethnicity as you are considering non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent to be Jews so it is obvious that you are using racial rather than cultural traits to determine ethnicity.

You only counted three as being Jewish, partly because you apparently think Jewish and white are mutually exclusive, when in fact there are more and

I only counted three of them as Jews because only three of them were Jews, that article specifically lists whether or not they were Jewish, not only are you using race to determine the Jewishness of these people but you are more strict than the Nuremberg Laws even the ****ing Nazi's consider only those with 3-4 Jewish grandparents to be Jews, you apparently only require one Jewish grandparent to be considered Jewish.

you ignored the CEO of NBC itself focusing on who runs GE, which will be a non-issue soon with regards to NBC, and NBC has always had a bit of autonomy.

Jeffrey Zucker who is CEO of NBC Universal is Jewish:

Jerry Zucker

Roger Ailes who is CEO of Fox News Channel is White:

Roger Ailes

Tit for Tat.

Like I said, you interpret it however you like. Your version doesn't explain why Strasser was targeted.

Strasser was killed because Hitler used the Night of the Long Knives to go after nearly every one of his political rivals.

Demon of Light · Jul 29, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
:roll: Holy **** it obviously lists whether or not they are Jewish.

Actually no, it doesn't. Some it simply doesn't list their religion, which is where they put Jewish.

So ****ing what, do the Oppenheimers consider themselves to be Jewish? Obviously not. And a major paper with a total readership of 120,000 for the giant Jewish population of the U.K. of a whopping 250,000.

The significance is more that the UK is the Oppenheimer's second home as it were. Also looking more, it appears his father was also Jewish at first and later converted. Both his father and grandfather were heavily involved in Jewish causes and maintained their ties with the Jewish community.

Ethnicity can include race, when discussing Jews as an ethnicity we use their religion to determine that ethnicity, but it is clear you are not using their religion to determine that ethnicity as you are considering non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent to be Jews so it is obvious that you are using racial rather than cultural traits to determine ethnicity.

You really need to get familiar with these terms:

2 a : of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background

Source: Merriam-Webster

Tit for Tat.

When are you gonna stop misrepresenting your own damn sources? It does not treat Jewish and white as mutually exclusive terms and only seems to leave it out obviously due to uncertainty. In fact, just to prove you wrong:

Michael Eisner

Pat Robertson - Business - CNBC TV - Conversations with Michael Eisner - msnbc.com

Obviously your source is not authoritative or for that matter saying someone isn't a Jew just because it doesn't say a person is a Jew.

Strasser was killed because Hitler used the Night of the Long Knives to go after nearly every one of his political rivals.

Mainly those rivals from the left.

Agent Ferris · Jul 29, 2010

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Demon of Light said:
Actually no, it doesn't. Some it simply doesn't list their religion, which is where they put Jewish.

I guess they're all secret Jews. Do you see Jews everywhere?

Anyways how are you defining a Jew exactly?

The significance is more that the UK is the Oppenheimer's second home as it were. Also looking more, it appears his father was also Jewish at first and later converted. Both his father and grandfather were heavily involved in Jewish causes and maintained their ties with the Jewish community.

Once a member of the tribe always a member of the tribe eh?

You really need to get familiar with these terms:

Source: Merriam-Webster

I am familiar with these terms because you are clearly using the race basis for ethnicity because you are claiming that converted Jews or Christians with one or two Jewish grandparents are themselves Jews. Just how exactly do you define a Jew sir?

When are you gonna stop misrepresenting your own damn sources? It does not treat Jewish and white as mutually exclusive terms and only seems to leave it out obviously due to uncertainty. In fact, just to prove you wrong:

Michael Eisner

I did more research than just that article I posted, I included Mort Zuckerman listed as white in the article as Jewish even though it says he is white, but anyways how exactly are defining someone as a Jew? Is one Jewish grandparent enough for them to be classified as Jewish?

Obviously your source is not authoritative or for that matter saying someone isn't a Jew just because it doesn't say a person is a Jew.

Ya and wikipedia is the end all and be all of authoritative sources, you know what I think? :roll: I think you went to Jew Watch or a similar Nazi website, found a list of suspected Jews in the media and then cross referenced it with wikipedia. In fact I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar on it.

Mainly those rivals from the left.

Mainly rivals to his consolidation of absolute power.

Fiddytree · Jul 30, 2010

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Winston Smith said:
I've heard quite a few history lectures in the short time I've been on this site...most of them from people who didn't seem to know much about history.

Granted, but just because some fool on this forum wants to blabber about history does not make Oliver Stone the man of quality.

Winston Smith · Jul 30, 2010

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Fiddytree said:
Granted, but just because some fool on this forum wants to blabber about history does not make Oliver Stone the man of quality.

He raises issues that some people don't want to deal with, so he's hated. No surprise. That's part of what good artists do.

Agent Ferris · Jul 30, 2010

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Winston Smith said:
He raises issues that some people don't want to deal with, so he's hated. No surprise. That's part of what good artists do.

He's a propagandist of the highest order, the man deals in bull****, he responsible for the vast majority of people who believe in a JFK conspiracy even though his film was a complete fabrication from start to finish. That's not useful that's harmful.

Winston Smith · Jul 30, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
He's a propagandist of the highest order, the man deals in bull****, he responsible for the vast majority of people who believe in a JFK conspiracy even though his film was a complete fabrication from start to finish. That's not useful that's harmful.

Actually, the film had little or no effect on the number of people who believe there was a conspiracy. A majority believe in a conspiracy because there probably was one. What the film did do was prompt Congress to open up more records to the public, which I suppose you would consider "harmful." If there really was no conspiracy, however, opening the records would tend to dispel myths rather than promote them.

Demon of Light · Jul 30, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
I guess they're all secret Jews.

No some of them are just not outspoken about their beliefs or background.

Anyways how are you defining a Jew exactly?

I would have to say when we are dealing with a sort of dynasty I would generally consider anyone in that line to be Jewish when there are only a few generations of separation from the last to consider his or herself Jewish. This also depends on whether they still are considered a member of the Jewish community.

Once a member of the tribe always a member of the tribe eh?

If that were the case I would consider most of the Palestinians Jews and I don't.

I did more research than just that article I posted

If this were true you would not have suggested the source failing to call someone Jewish means they are not Jewish.

Ya and wikipedia is the end all and be all of authoritative sources, you know what I think? :roll: I think you went to Jew Watch or a similar Nazi website, found a list of suspected Jews in the media and then cross referenced it with wikipedia. In fact I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar on it.

I gave Wikipedia because I had already checked other sources with no bias that confirmed it. For instance articles like this on Iger: Who runs Hollywood? C'mon - Los Angeles Times

Agent Ferris · Jul 30, 2010

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Winston Smith said:
Actually, the film had little or no effect on the number of people who believe there was a conspiracy.

From your link:

63 percent of viewers suspect there was a second gunman; that declines to 43 percent of those who haven't seen the film. And 78 percent of viewers suspect a cover-up, compared to 61 percent of non-viewers. But this doesn't necessarily mean that seeing the movie creates suspicion; it could be instead that suspicious people have been drawn to the film

A majority believe in a conspiracy because there probably was one. What the film did do was prompt Congress to open up more records to the public, which I suppose you would consider "harmful." If there really was no conspiracy, however, opening the records would tend to dispel myths rather than promote them.

The House Select Committee ruled that there was a conspiracy because (and only because) it relied on the audio analysis from the motorcycle cops open CB radio and this evidence has since been completely debunked because it was assumed that the motorcycle was in a precise location at the time of the shooting and using computer animation to combine several visual recordings it has been determined concluslively that no motorcycle cops were anywhere near that location at the time of the shooting.

Thanks to Vincent Bugliosi's 1600 pg. "Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy," it has now been proven beyond the shadow of any reasonable doubt that Oswald killed Kennedy and he acted alone.

Demon of Light · Jul 30, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
From your link:

63 percent of viewers suspect there was a second gunman; that declines to 43 percent of those who haven't seen the film. And 78 percent of viewers suspect a cover-up, compared to 61 percent of non-viewers. But this doesn't necessarily mean that seeing the movie creates suspicion; it could be instead that suspicious people have been drawn to the film

Do you even contemplate the likelihood that more people who believe in a conspiracy watched it than those who believe the official story?

Winston Smith · Jul 30, 2010

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Agent Ferris said:
From your link:

63 percent of viewers suspect there was a second gunman; that declines to 43 percent of those who haven't seen the film. And 78 percent of viewers suspect a cover-up, compared to 61 percent of non-viewers. But this doesn't necessarily mean that seeing the movie creates suspicion; it could be instead that suspicious people have been drawn to the film

And also from the same link:

Belief in a broader plot peaked at 80 percent in a 1983 ABCNEWS poll; it's since eased a bit, to today's 70 percent. Similarly, the number of people who think there was an official cover-up has moved back from its peak, 81 percent in 1993, to 68 percent now.

Twenty percent of Americans say the film made them more likely to think there was a conspiracy behind the assassination. But many of them may have held that view even without the film's influence. The overall number who suspect a conspiracy is the same now as it was in a poll leading up to the movie's release, before many people had a chance to see it. And as noted, suspicions of a plot peaked in 1983, long before the film was made.

Agent Ferris said:
The House Select Committee ruled that there was a conspiracy because (and only because) it relied on the audio analysis from the motorcycle cops open CB radio and this evidence has since been completely debunked because it was assumed that the motorcycle was in a precise location at the time of the shooting and using computer animation to combine several visual recordings it has been determined concluslively that no motorcycle cops were anywhere near that location at the time of the shooting.

Thanks to Vincent Bugliosi's 1600 pg. "Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy," it has now been proven beyond the shadow of any reasonable doubt that Oswald killed Kennedy and he acted alone.

There was other evidence as well. Most likely Oswald killed him; whether he acted alone I don't think has been proven. The chief counsel to the committee has stated unequivocally that the CIA lied to them, which complicates matters.

In any case, Stone's film is the story of an investigation, not something that claims to be absolute truth. It advances several incompatible theories, one of which is that the US government had nothing to do with the assassination but was covering up foreign involvement in order to prevent further bloodshed. Even if the conspiracy theories only thrived because the government was too defensive, pressing for answers is still the best way to restore confidence. The effort is useful either way.

RyrineaHaruno · Jul 30, 2010

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To prove Winston, point about the conspiracy in to JFK death. I provide you with a little bit of evidence about this picture below

This picture was taken at the bottom of the book depositary the day Kennedy got shot while the one on the right was taken when Oswald got caught.

Oswald Innocence on Film

This website also has a lot of witness in too the case about Oswald, and that day. Oh and lets not forget the people who ran over to the grassy knoll all died of cusses like cancer, car accidents 2 years after his death ect. Something like that only happens 1 in 4 times.

RyrineaHaruno · Jul 30, 2010

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Plus the fact that the governments so called Magic bullet theory is even less of a possibility, since scientist have put it too the test.

So yes their was probably a conspiracy in too the death of JFK.

This is from one of Oswald's co-workers at the time says the bag he carrying in the morning as too small to carry a gun, and in fact the police try to convince him to confess by saying that Oswald told them he was a co-conspirator. I haven't even seen JFK, and even I doubt the official report of the Kennedy Assassination. I myself was going in too the case after I heard about it in school one day. The investigation had to many weird things happen, and I think the SS ****ed up on the investigation.

Agent Ferris · Jul 30, 2010

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RyrineaHaruno said:
Plus the fact that the governments so called Magic bullet theory is even less of a possibility, since scientist have put it too the test. So yes their was probably a conspiracy in too the death of JFK.

It wasn't a magic bullet at all sport, you conspiracists have never taken into account that JFK's seat was raised up and Governor Connally's seat was lowered and slightly pushed towards the interior and he was turned slightly to the right as well, computer animation proves that the wounds in both JFK and Connally were a perfect straight trajectory from the Oswald perch when the difference in seat positions are taken into account. They did a special of this on the history channel completely debunking your bull****.

This is from one of Oswald's co-workers at the time says the bag he carrying in the morning as too small to carry a gun,

A) He could be mistaken eyewitness testimony is highly unreliable as any good police officer will tell you.

B) He could have brought the gun in at an early time or day.

C) He could have assembled the rifle just prior to taking the shot, marines spend hours disassembling and reassembling their weapons day in and day out until they are very very proficient at it. Ever see full metal jack?

Agent Ferris · Jul 30, 2010

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Demon of Light said:
Do you even contemplate the likelihood that more people who believe in a conspiracy watched it than those who believe the official story?

The point is more people believe in the bull**** conspiracy theory thanks to that horse**** work of fiction passed off to the public as history.

Agent Ferris · Jul 30, 2010

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Winston Smith said:
And also from the same link:

The article states that more people believe the conspiracy bull**** because of the film. Most conspiracists you'll find these days will take their cues directly from the film exhibit A) Ryhine promoting the "magic bullet" lie. There was nothing magic about this bullet as computer animation proves conclusively that it was a straight trajectory from the Oswald perch when the layout of the jumpseats are taken into account IE Connally's seat was dropped Kennedy's was raised and Connally's was pushed slightly towards the intererior and Connally was shifted slightly towards the right.

There was other evidence as well.

There was no other evidence the House Select Committee relied ENTIRELY on the acoustic analysis to make their determination that there was a 2nd gunman and thus a conspiracy rather than a loan assassin.

Most likely Oswald killed him; whether he acted alone I don't think has been proven.

Bugliosi proved it beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt.

The chief counsel to the committee has stated unequivocally that the CIA lied to them, which complicates matters.

About what? Lied to them about what?

In any case, Stone's film is the story of an investigation, not something that claims to be absolute truth. It advances several incompatible theories, one of which is that the US government had nothing to do with the assassination but was covering up foreign involvement in order to prevent further bloodshed. Even if the conspiracy theories only thrived because the government was too defensive, pressing for answers is still the best way to restore confidence. The effort is useful either way.

The film was a hodge podge of revisionist conspiracist bull**** passed off as a docu-drama. It was a work of pure fiction which Stone tried to pass off as fact.

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