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Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in Conte

Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

I'm not being snarky here but...what exactly do you want me to explain?

What did you mean with "When speaking to a Jew"?
Do you believe that you'd only get a specific reaction on that subject from a person if he is Jewish?

If it hadn't been Jews, it would have been the next target. In looking at his methods, with clear eyes devoid of all the Western guilt thrust upon us for actions we never took part in, you come to understand that his hatred of the Jews wasn't even hatred at all. It was scapegoating to unify his people. Had the Jews not been there and available, he would have chosen something else. The Jews are secondary to the Hitler issue. :shrug:

Perhaps, but it was the Jews, and his actions of exterminating two-thirds of the Jewish-European community, or one third of the Jewish world community, are indeed the most influencing and most important action he has taken in his time as a ruler. His policies of racism and the belief in a superior race were two of his core values.
 
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He was a fascist. A lot of his economic policies were based on Mussolini's concept of fascism. This was NOT socialism.

Both Hitler and Mussolini were socialists, before they were facsists. Facism is based on socialism
 
Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

I'm not being snarky here but...what exactly do you want me to explain?




If it hadn't been Jews, it would have been the next target. In looking at his methods, with clear eyes devoid of all the Western guilt thrust upon us for actions we never took part in, you come to understand that his hatred of the Jews wasn't even hatred at all. It was scapegoating to unify his people. Had the Jews not been there and available, he would have chosen something else. The Jews are secondary to the Hitler issue. :shrug:

You cannot discuss his end goals without placing a major focus on the means in which he attepted to reach those goals. His brutality and mass killings were the thing he will be most remembered for; it defined the regime he created. And yes, if it wasn't the Jews, it would have been someone else. But it WAS the Jews.
 
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Both Hitler and Mussolini were socialists, before they were facsists. Facism is based on socialism

Fascism is an anti-left wing philosophy. I could explain how it is NOT socialism, but this is not the thread for it.
 
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You cannot discuss his end goals without placing a major focus on the means in which he attepted to reach those goals. His brutality and mass killings were the thing he will be most remembered for; it defined the regime he created. And yes, if it wasn't the Jews, it would have been someone else. But it WAS the Jews.

OK, so it was the Jews. It was also the gypsies, homos, and assorted others. I just don't see why Jews get elevated to this "MIV" (most important victim) status over all the others. :shrug:

And yeah, you most certainly can study Hitler's political goals and methods apart from the Holocaust. The dynamic going on in Nazi Germany and the politics of the world at the time did involve a bigger picture than some jews getting cyanide showers alongside various other victims, despite the Jewish myth that it was all about them.
 
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What did you mean with "When speaking to a Jew"?
Do you believe that you'd only get a specific reaction on that subject from a person if he is Jewish?

I think that when speaking to a Jewish person, there is an assumption that you will show contrition for Hitler's actions or that you will find some worthy topics of conversation to be off limits, even if your Jewish friend brings the topic up.
 
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Both Hitler and Mussolini were socialists, before they were facsists. Facism is based on socialism

Hitler and Mussolini were fascists. Mussoulini was part of the National Fascist party in Itali. Nazism was a mix of Fascism and nationalism.
Nazism is a politically syncretic variety of fascism, which incorporates policies, tactics and philosophic tenets from left and right-wing politics. Italian fascism and German Nazism reject liberalism, democracy and Marxism.[67]
*boldness added by me*
Source:Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know Wikipedia isn't always the most reliable, but the information I cited does come from a source (and you can check it on the webpage).

Mussolini and hitler were not socialists, they were both fascists. The USSR was socialist, and they were at war with Nazi Germany.
 
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OK, so it was the Jews. It was also the gypsies, homos, and assorted others. I just don't see why Jews get elevated to this "MIV" (most important victim) status over all the others. :shrug:

And yeah, you most certainly can study Hitler's political goals and methods apart from the Holocaust. The dynamic going on in Nazi Germany and the politics of the world at the time did involve a bigger picture than some jews getting cyanide showers alongside various other victims, despite the Jewish myth that it was all about them.

You REALLY missed the overall point of my post. The big picture was the brutality and mass killings... the means to the ends that they wanted achieve. The Holocaust was part of these means... a HUGE part. No one is saying that it is all about the Jews... at least I'm not. But being cavalier about the Holocaust is just as incorrect a position as stating that Hitler's entire legacy is about the Holocaust. His brutality was widespread. THAT is his legacy.
 
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You REALLY missed the overall point of my post. The big picture was the brutality and mass killings... the means to the ends that they wanted achieve. The Holocaust was part of these means... a HUGE part. No one is saying that it is all about the Jews... at least I'm not. But being cavalier about the Holocaust is just as incorrect a position as stating that Hitler's entire legacy is about the Holocaust. His brutality was widespread. THAT is his legacy.

I'm not arguing it wasn't. I think we're talking past each other at this point. If you took one snapshot of his regime to portray what kind of regime it was, it would definitely be a snapshot of a concentration camp. However, that doesn't mean that the Holocaust is woven into every aspect of discussion about Hitler. There are issues entirely apart from the Holocaust that can be examined with no regard for what was going on in Auschwitz.

What I am taking exception to is the idea that to make such examinations without constantly going back to the Holocaust and showing the Jews that you still have sympathy for them, even though they aren't even part of the discussion, you get branded an anti-Semite. And I think anti-Semite card is becoming like any other race card...people are getting tired of hearing it. And soon, there's not going to be a person alive with any vested interest in catering to it anymore. :shrug:
 
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And frankly, while I believe the Holocaust is up there in terms of the magnitude of human atrocity, there are other people in this world who are suffering just as badly, if not worse.

I've pointed this out earlier on the thread, but it bears repeating: the Jews are not working harder than any other group to stress the horror their people went through. They're just the most successful, for a number of reasons:
-The purpetrator, Germany, is now on their side. Contrast this with, say, the Armenians, whose unwavering attempts to make more known that about two-thirds of them were slaughtered by the Turks, the Turkish lobby continues to do all it can to defy.
-The sheer number of them that died. By a huge margin they suffered the worst genocide of all time, and by an even larger margin they were the largest group that Hitler put to death.
-Hitler was already widely considered a monstrous figure before the Holocaust was even widely known. It's much easier to notice a mass killing when it's done by someone you already hate to begin with.

I didn't list Jewish influence in the media because if that were part of the explanation, people would have been already paying attention to the Holocaust as it was happening, when escaping Jews were trying to tell the world about what was going on, and the world didn't care to listen. It's pretty hard to believe that the massive Jewish influence in the media suddenly happened immediately after WWII, when it became as embedded in the public conscious as it is today. Yeah, there's disproportionate representation of Jews in the media, but we're talking like 10-15% in the media as opposed to like 2-3% in the general population; they're still a tiny minority.

I'm just not even moved by the whole topic anymore.

That's exactly the sentiment that people are trying to extinguish by stressing how horrible the Holocaust was. As I already said, when people don't know or don't care about history, it is doomed to repeat itself. Before the Holocaust, genocides went mostly ignored and unnoticed; now, though they still happen, they are recognized for the monstrosity that they are. It's at least a step forwards.
You seem to think it's all about "unrelated agendas", whatever those are... but it's just not. Maybe for some people, but most - even the ones who do try to use it to advance such agendas - just want to make sure everyone recognizes it for what it is... which might help the world move towards an environment where it can never happen again.
 
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You miss my point entirely. My point is that when speaking to a Jew or about the topic of Hitler, period, it's almost expected that you will speak with a tone of contrition for what Hitler did to the Jews even if the topic isn't about that aspect of Hitler's regime at all.

And no, I don't identify the Holocaust first and foremost with Hitler. Sorry. I just don't. I tend to identify his military mistakes, inflated and reckless ambitions, occult fascinations and his powerful successes in pulling Germany out of economic ruin in such a short time. The Jews are a secondary issue to the history of WW2 in my perception.

John Wayne Gacy was a talented clown, but he's most identified as a murderer. The shoe fits. :shrug:

The Halocaust was part of WW2, yet not the biggest. I agree with you there. But as far as Hitler's legacy, the Halocaust is absolutely numero uno. Right or wrong, wars get started. Leaders want more power and try to take over other countries. It's not pleasant, but it's not uncommon. Rounding up 6 million Jews, Gypies, Homosexuals and mentally retarded people and killing, torturing, experimenting on them and making lampshades out of their skin is not something one tends to find in the modern world. Not on that scale. Then again, Saddam Hussein is gone.

I was actually *just* explaining the Halocaust to my 10 and half year old yesterday. Obviously I had to edit what I said for a child's ears. He knows about slavery. He knows about wars. He knows about disease. This effected him like nothing else I've ever explained to him.

I was raised in the Jewish community and never once heard anyone say it was all about Jews. Never. And the people who taught me the most about the Halocaust still had the numbers tatooed to their arms.

You're right. You can't have a discussion about Hitler without a nod of sympathy to those who were murdered and those who survived to carry the emotional scars. But why wouldn't you? :shrug:
 
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That's exactly the sentiment that people are trying to extinguish by stressing how horrible the Holocaust was. As I already said, when people don't know or don't care about history, it is doomed to repeat itself. Before the Holocaust, genocides went mostly ignored and unnoticed; now, though they still happen, they are recognized for the monstrosity that they are. It's at least a step forwards.
You seem to think it's all about "unrelated agendas", whatever those are... but it's just not. Maybe for some people, but most - even the ones who do try to use it to advance such agendas - just want to make sure everyone recognizes it for what it is... which might help the world move towards an environment where it can never happen again.

Maybe I am just desensitized to it but I feel like I only ever hear it come up in a select few instances: as a shield against criticism of Jews and as a shield against criticism of Israel. And any time a Jewish coalition needs a platform to speak and wants attention, as in the response to Oliver Stone we heard. :shrug:

I know what the Holocaust was. Everyone does. I care that it never happens again. The whole world cared...we went to war and put a stop to it. I just think it's tacky, cras, and kinda dumb to expect contrition from the world for it anymore. It's attention whoring in a way. I just don't care about the holocaust enough anymore to hold Oliver Stone over a barrel about what he said. In fact, as much as I hate to admit it, was rooting for the guy when the slurs about him being an anti-Semite started. :shrug:
 
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You're right. You can't have a discussion about Hitler without a nod of sympathy to those who were murdered and those who survived to carry the emotional scars. But why wouldn't you? :shrug:

Because I don't care enough to have any sympathy for them. I didn't put them there. No one in my family put them there. None of my friends put them there. No one I know put them there or gave them those scars. To show sympathy for something I am so removed from would be kinda fake and plastic. :shrug:
 
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I think that when speaking to a Jewish person, there is an assumption that you will show contrition for Hitler's actions or that you will find some worthy topics of conversation to be off limits, even if your Jewish friend brings the topic up.

I'm not exactly sure why you think that. In my experience, Jews are among the most racial-sensitivity-apathetic ethnicities there are (Asians in general rank up there with them). Maybe you're hanging around the wrong Jews.

That does remind me of a story though... about my dad, a Cuban refugee, conversing with one of my mom's Jewish relatives. The relative apparently didn't know where he was from, and for some reason felt compelled to talk about what a great guy Fidel Castro was. My dad just sat and listened, and when the guy was done, started talking about all the great things Hitler did for his people. The relative was pretty horrified :lol:
 
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Fascism is an anti-left wing philosophy. I could explain how it is NOT socialism, but this is not the thread for it.

Actually, you can't. That's the reason you won't. I think you already know that.
 
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Actually, you can't. That's the reason you won't. I think you already know that.

It's possible, and I explained how it isn't socialism if you read my post above. hitler and Mussolini were not socialist. In fact they denounced Marxism and were at war with the Socialist USSR.
 
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Maybe I am just desensitized to it but I feel like I only ever hear it come up in a select few instances: as a shield against criticism of Jews and as a shield against criticism of Israel. And any time a Jewish coalition needs a platform to speak and wants attention, as in the response to Oliver Stone we heard. :shrug:

Really? Maybe those instances are just when you notice it, since it seems to evoke the strongest reaction from you. Those instances take up a tiny minority of mentions of the Holocaust... obviously I can't prove that, but I find it extremely hard to believe that it's not true.

The whole world cared...we went to war and put a stop to it.

Nobody cared about the Holocaust before the end of WWII. Few people even knew it was going on. Jewish refugees around the world were being turned away and forced to go back to get slaughtered. This is exactly the sort of apathy that people are now trying to avoid. Also, WWII itself was completely unrelated to the Holocaust, except for the fact that the Holocaust was put to a stop as a side effect of it.

I just think it's tacky, cras, and kinda dumb to expect contrition from the world for it anymore. It's attention whoring in a way.

Every group that suffers any fraction of the amount as the Jews in Europe did try just as hard to "attention whore" their suffering, because that is exactly what they should be doing. The Jews are just the most successful, like I've already said, for reasons I've already said.
 
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Maybe I am just desensitized to it but I feel like I only ever hear it come up in a select few instances: as a shield against criticism of Jews and as a shield against criticism of Israel. And any time a Jewish coalition needs a platform to speak and wants attention, as in the response to Oliver Stone we heard. :shrug:

I know what the Holocaust was. Everyone does. I care that it never happens again. The whole world cared...we went to war and put a stop to it. I just think it's tacky, cras, and kinda dumb to expect contrition from the world for it anymore. It's attention whoring in a way. I just don't care about the holocaust enough anymore to hold Oliver Stone over a barrel about what he said. In fact, as much as I hate to admit it, was rooting for the guy when the slurs about him being an anti-Semite started. :shrug:

What exactly are Jews expecting from the world irt the Halocaust???

It's not over, Jall. People still deny it. Fortunes are still in the hands of murderers or their heirs. Up until recent years, this story was hands off in Hollywood. No one wanted to touch it. As long as their are ignorant people in the world who hate people based on religion, sexual orienation or mental capacity, this story stands loud and clear. Replace Jews with Mormons, Catholics or anyone. The fact that this was allowed to happen in the modern world (and still continues to happen in the world with other peoples) makes it extremely important to keep telling.

This was not a part of history I was looking forward to sharing with my son. It had to be shared, because as you said, as the survivors have died off, it will become ancient history. Only it's not so ancient.
 
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It's possible, and I explained how it isn't socialism if you read my post above. hitler and Mussolini were not socialist. In fact they denounced Marxism and were at war with the Socialist USSR.

The difference between Communism and Facism is the same difference between Budweiser and Miller. Both are beers, just different styles of beer. One's a pilsnar and one's a lager.

If you'll look at your link about, "Nazism"--Mussolini wasn't a Nazi--you'll notice that Facism is anti-capitalist.

In fact they denounced Marxism and were at war with the Socialist USSR.

Hitler also signed a non-aggression pact with the USSR and jointly invaded Poland.
 
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Because I don't care enough to have any sympathy for them. I didn't put them there. No one in my family put them there. None of my friends put them there. No one I know put them there or gave them those scars. To show sympathy for something I am so removed from would be kinda fake and plastic. :shrug:

Does that mean you don't have sympathy for the victims of 9/11? Do you not feel badly when someone is suffering from disease? You don't need guilt or involvement to have sympathy. I guess I don't know why this is even a point. :shrug:
 
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The difference between Communism and Facism is the same difference between Budweiser and Miller. Both are beers, just different styles of beer. One's a pilsnar and one's a lager.

If you'll look at your link about, "Nazism"--Mussolini wasn't a Nazi--you'll notice that Facism is anti-capitalist.

Communism and Fascism are different. Communism focuses more of an economic system that aspires for a classless commune type of government and social system. Fascism is a political system where the state is above all and the state rules all. They are not the same political philosophy.

I agree that Fascism is anti-capitalist, but what does this have to do with anything? Are all anti-capitalist philosophies socialism? No. I also never claimed that Mussolini was a Nazi, in fact I specifically said that we was part of the Italian Fascist party. It is also true that the Fascists denounced Marxism (Socialism and Communism) and were at war with the USSR (which was a Socialist nation).

Part of the Nazi's platform was that they rejected both capitalism and communism because they thought they were influenced by Jews.

Hitler also signed a non-aggression pact with the USSR and jointly invaded Poland.

And hitler later went to war with the USSR. He broke his agreement just like he broke the Munich Agreement. History proves that Nazi Germany and the USSR were at war.
 
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Communism and Fascism are different. Communism focuses more of an economic system that aspires for a classless commune type of government and social system. Fascism is a political system where the state is above all and the state rules all. They are not the same political philosophy.

I agree that Fascism is anti-capitalist, but what does this have to do with anything? Are all anti-capitalist philosophies socialism? No. I also never claimed that Mussolini was a Nazi, in fact I specifically said that we was part of the Italian Fascist party. It is also true that the Fascists denounced Marxism (Socialism and Communism) and were at war with the USSR (which was a Socialist nation).

Part of the Nazi's platform was that they rejected both capitalism and communism because they thought they were influenced by Jews.

At the end of the day, the state calls all the shots. How are they different, again?

Are all anti-capitalist philosophies socialism?

Which pro-capitalist philosophies are socialist? :rofl

Part of the Nazi's platform was that they rejected both capitalism and communism because they thought they were influenced by Jews.

I would LOVE for you to back that up with, well, anything. :rofl
 
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At the end of the day, the state calls all the shots. How are they different, again?
Communism focuses on the community, Fascism focuses on upholding the state as the highest power. Is conservative small government principals the same as anarchy? Sure anarchists want to dissolve government, but conservatives want to shrink it to. At the end of the day the government is smaller, how are they different? See how illogical that argument is?
Which pro-capitalist philosophies are socialist? :rofl
Again, what does this have to do with anything? Similarities do not imply or cause things to be identical.
I would LOVE for you to back that up with, well, anything. :rofl

To rescue Germany from the effects of the Great Depression, Nazism promoted an economic third position; a managed economy that was neither capitalist nor communist.[15][16] The Nazis accused communism and capitalism of being associated with Jewish influences and interests.[17]
*again, boldness added by me*
Source:Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Again, the cited source for this information is " Bendersky, Joseph W. A history of Nazi Germany: 1919-1945. 2nd ed. Burnham Publishers, 2000. p. 159." It's not random editing.
 
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There is no cover up and there isn't some media conspiracy to paint them out of context.

Actually it is more a tendency than a conspiracy.

Racial discrimination may be referred to an ethnicity, in this case the Jewish ethnicity.
Nevertheless, I'd like to know what are you basing the part I've marked on.

Okey-dokes:

Robert Alan "Bob" Iger (born February 10, 1951) is the president and chief executive officer of The Walt Disney Company.

. . .

Iger was born to Jewish parents Mimi and Arthur Iger of Long Beach, Long Island

Robert Iger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeffrey "Jeff" Zucker (born 9 April 1965) is an American television executive and the President and CEO of NBC Universal.

. . .

Zucker was born to Jewish-American parents in Homestead, Florida,

Jeff Zucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Through National Amusements, Sumner Redstone and his family are majority owners of CBS Corporation, Viacom, and MTV Networks, BET, and movie production and distribution Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks movie studios

. . .

Sumner was born to Jewish parents in Boston, Massachusetts

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Arthur Hays Sulzberger (12 September 1891 – 11 December 1968) was the publisher of The New York Times from 1935 to 1961.

Sulzberger was the son of Cyrus L. Sulzberger, a cotton-goods merchant, and Rachel Peixotto Hays, descendant of old and noteworthy Sephardic families.

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Arthur Ochs "Punch" Sulzberger, Sr. (born February 5, 1926) to a prominent media and publishing family, is himself an American publisher and businessman. He succeeded his father, Arthur Hays Sulzberger, and maternal grandfather as publisher and chairman of the New York Times in 1963, passing the positions to his son Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. in 1992.

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Eugene Isaac Meyer (October 31, 1875 – July 17, 1959) was an American financier, public official, publisher of the Washington Post newspaper.

. . .

His parents were Jewish but he avoided identification as a Jew until later in life.

Eugene Isaac Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A granddaughter and namesake of long-time Washington Post chairwoman and publisher Katharine Graham (d. 2001), Weymouth is a daughter of political columnist and publishing heiress Lally Weymouth and the architect Yann R. Weymouth. Her mother's family has owned the newspaper since 1933, when it was purchased by her great-grandfather Eugene Meyer.

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Suggesting that less than 5 million Jews have perished in the Holocaust is indeed by definition a form of Holocaust Denial, if only partial.

So someone says, but I would think the clear question is whether the Holocaust is being denied and clearly saying it less than 5 but more than 4 is not denying its occurrence or really its severity in all honesty. Why should Raul Hilberg's estimate be the minimum when documents prove he overestimated casualties in some cases?

No, I'm afraid my mentality is ages away from even resembling something that could, if only by the smallest odds, be mistaken as your mentality.

I'm not talking about mentality.

That is a common claim by the Holocaust denying crowd, it would seem.
For example, here's a passage from Wikipedia describing the Holocaust Denial practice:

Said nothing of a hoax or a conspiracy. It would be absurd to say the Holocaust has not been used to advance political and military agendas.

I believe I was quoting an encyclopedia making this exact statement?

Actually it said there was no "systematic" use and I noted a reason that would be the case. Wiping out the Slavs, which was a stated motive of Hitler and the Nazis, would have been a much more massive undertaking since the population is so large and distributed across so many countries.

That's an opinion that I cannot understand, Hitler is mostly identified with the Holocaust rather than with his economical policies due to the difference in the importance and effects of the actions.

I would say Hitler is mostly identified with World War II and the Holocaust being a horrific side narrative of the war.

A) Prove that Jews have more representation in the media than anyother ethnic group.

White people have the most representation, but in high-ranking positions you find more Jews, at least in the U.S.

B) Even if this typical anti-semitic claim that Jews control the media was true, are you suggesting that Jews as a people somehow act differently from gentiles?

No. I am suggesting they act exactly the same. This includes acting in favor of your people.

And no one here has made any assertion that Hitler was anything less than evil. The assertion has been that there were a lot more complex issues going on there than what is typically permitted to be taught.

I would make that assertion. I would object to painting anyone as evil. When you read up on Hitler's life it is hard to see him as an evil person, but rather just a person who had incredibly flawed ideas brought on by a flawed culture.

He was a fascist. A lot of his economic policies were based on Mussolini's concept of fascism. This was NOT socialism.

Actually fascism finds its roots in national syndicalism, which involved organized labor essentially controlling business in a corporatist structure. This is really a form of socialism. The Knight of the Long Knives was actually a purge of the elements of the Nazi party more inclined towards the Socialist portion of National Socialism.
 
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Actually, you can't. That's the reason you won't. I think you already know that.

Actually, I could very easily and have done so on at least 3 occasions at DP in the past. However, you and I both know that you would refuse to accept facts of this nature because they oppose your rigid and invalid view of things.
 
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