Black GOP candidate slams Obama for exploiting race

jujuman13 said:

THIS IS OUR PRESIDENT
Everyone of voting age should read these two books. Don't buy them, get them from the library before they are removed from the shelves.


From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'



From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white.

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'


From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY, and most scary!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
These are his words straight from his books!

Perhaps jetboogieman you may care to explain these words from the Messiah's books, books he wrote prior to becoming President?

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Aunt Spiker said:

Jujuman.
What you're having a problem with is accepting the struggle that mixed-race children DO have. If we weren't a racist/slave whipping country in the past they wouldn't HAVE these problems.

I don't think you could ever imagine what it's like being scorned by your peers because of you're parent's race(s) - nor do I think you really want to understand what it's like.

People like you flipping out over their inner-struggle aren't helping (and it's not just black/white mixed children who go through this, mind you) It's really a sad problem and instead of understanding you're actually building up a blind wall which only makes it worse for them.

What are mix-race children suppose to do and feel when their peers - black and white - reject them for skin-deep issues?
Do you prefer that they never express their feelings and just bottle them up - ignore it?

Sometimes it's important to talk about these things - more important than you are capable of comprehending. It's not RACIST to discuss your childhood race-problems. It is IMMATURE, however, to freak out when someone decides to voice what was on their minds when they were 10 or 15.

Accept it - blacks and whites marry and have children and their children will endure serious race issues throughout their entire LIVES and nothing you say will change that.

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I haven't read "Dreams of My Father" nor "Audacity of Hope", but I did read "From Promise to Power" by David Mendell, a white journalist who followed Pres. Obama's political career from the days he was a Community Organizer to the Presidency, and one thing that was a constant issue in the book was how Obama struggled with his bi-racial identity - which side did he really fit it with. It was interesting how he constantly fought with this struggle of identiy as many Whites found him likeable but only "accepted" him if in their minds he "measured up" yet many Blacks felt that he wasn't "black enough".

My daughter is bi-racial - mixed as it were - half white, half black. It's been interesting watching her grown (she's only 8), but just as what happened w/Pres. Obama I'm finding similarities w/my daughter as she's growns up and finds her niche within interpersonal relationships among her peers. My daughter's very light skinned; so she passes more for White than Black. Thus, naturally, she gravitates more towards Whites than Blacks. Still, she'll play with anyone...doesn't matter. I'm sure that will change as she gets older (assuming that racism still plays a major role in our society where interpersonal relationships is concerned), but as I watch my child's development I was reminded of reading these same aspects in this particular book which also referenced many of the racial identification issues Pres. Obama mentioned he struggled with in his own books.

I won't deny that Pres. Obama is passionate moreso for his African (American) heritage than he is for his (White) American heritage. His views on race have clearly been shaped not only from how he was treated growing up but also from the influences in his life primarily through college but reinforced from the experiences he's gain while a Community Organizer in Chicago. Unless you're African American, lived closely among African Americans as my wife and her two biological children are now living (and have lived for the last 10 years) or you are of Bi-racial decent, you will never truly know what it's like to live in a world where the color of your skin is still treated with apprehension and some misgivings. Of course, I can no more say what it's like to be White in America than a White man can say what it's like to be Black. But I can say I know what's it's like to be an American. And frankly, that's what I try to see every day...if not for the betterment of myself than for the sake of my children, both White, Black and my little bi-racial darling.

Councilman said:

Would you like to see the person who should have been the first Black Man elected to the white house? Look no more he's Col. Allen West, and he's not a racist like the one we got.

Check out this patriot and compare him to the appeaser amateur in chief Odumba.


YouTube - Col. West: Obama Unlike MLK, Jr. in Improving Race Relations

I would vote for west in a heart beat.

Black GOP candidate slams Obama for exploiting race - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

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Who?

Why should I care what some nobody has to say about the POTUS?

Oh..


.. I know...

I shouldn't and don't.

Wow, the GOP has two token black members now? Who would have thought!

I am not aware that any political party has to declare the color of skin of any Member, perhaps you know different PeteEU?

And is it of any importance what color any person is?

PeteEU said:

Wow, the GOP has two token black members now? Who would have thought!

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And oddly enough, they both just happen to know how to run the country better than Obama.

jujuman13 said:

The charge of racism was levied against Obama, jetboogieman stated that there was no proof, I believe that I provided proof.

I myself am the issue of two disparate parents, yet I do not care to ramble on about the unfairness of something I can do nothing about.

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Most of what you presented is in reference to his bi-racial identity issues. If there's anything racist in his past it's how he was treated *because* of his skin color - from both blacks and white alike. There's nothing racist with his thought process and his struggle to deal with it.

Now - take all of those out and you're left with him attending the Reverend's Church and a few other things. *maybe that much*

Ah *facepalm*

Trying to convince me Obama is a racist... is like trying to convince you that Strom Thurmand was a champion of Civil Rights...

Oh how far we have come in race relations, where white dudes could call a black man who worked his way up from nothing that he's an elitist snob and a racist. Somehow that just doesn't click.

Hatuey said:

It has to do with the fact that every time Republicans and Conservatives get a new 'African-American' to join them, they immediately pimp him out as a sign of how racist they're not.

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^^^^ THIS ^^^^

is exactly what's been bugging me. Thank you!

PeteEU said:

Wow, the GOP has two token black members now? Who would have thought!

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Now, there's some racism for ya.

apdst said:

Now, there's some racism for ya.

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How do you figure?

TennesseeRain said:

How do you figure?

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He's assuming that those black members of the GOP are simply token niggers, exploited by the Republicans and not free thinking people who made a concious decision as to where their politics lay.

But, hey, Liberals don't believe that blacks can think for themselves, anyway, so it's no surprise.

To be honest I think the Republicans exploit race too. They push for black candidates to break the stereotype that Republicans hate minorities (which is false). I am not making this accusation, but I would like to propose the question. Do the think Michael Steele got his position because he was black? Clearly the guy doesn't represent the Republican party very well (with his current controversial comments regarding the war). Do you think he was put in his position in order to "compete" with having a black president? Do you think Republicans try to have more black candidates in order to break a false stereotype? I would say Republicans exploit race too.

digsbe said:

I am not making this accusation, but I would like to propose the question. Do the think Michael Steele got his position because he was black? Clearly the guy doesn't represent the Republican party very well

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I have no idea if it's how he got the position, and it doesn't really matter to me, but he's a good respresentative imo for the more moderate elements of the Republican party. He seems to have had a good solid history, he's smart and sensible from what I can tell, and he appears to speak what's on his mind, which is something I like even when I disagree. I've not heard any dirt on him, and if it was out there, you can rest assured someone would have put it out for all to see.

apdst said:

He's assuming that those black members of the GOP are simply token niggers, exploited by the Republicans and not free thinking people who made a concious decision as to where their politics lay.

But, hey, Liberals don't believe that blacks can think for themselves, anyway, so it's no surprise.

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I am not assuming, it is pretty clear to everyone but those in denial of the racial issues in the Republican Party.

How many non white delegates were there at RNC meeting that elected Steele? How come it was only after the country dumped the GOP, that the RNC suddenly chose a non white leader (or chairman) out of a very very white membership and delegate number? The reports I have read is, that there were under a handful of black delegates out of the 168+ people there, and they happen to choose a black candidate for the first time just after loosing the presidency to a black man .... yea right....

PeteEU said:

I am not assuming, it is pretty clear to everyone but those in denial of the racial issues in the Republican Party.

How many non white delegates were there at RNC meeting that elected Steele? How come it was only after the country dumped the GOP, that the RNC suddenly chose a non white leader (or chairman) out of a very very white membership and delegate number? The reports I have read is, that there were under a handful of black delegates out of the 168+ people there, and they happen to choose a black candidate for the first time just after loosing the presidency to a black man .... yea right....

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Seriously PeteEU, the very millisecond you are struck by even the most myopic strain of something approaching an intellectually honest and rational point of conversation not predicated upon a full frontal and dorsal lobotomy mired in stereotypical derision, please send up a flare!

Derka derka....................:roll:

Your personal opinion of Pete fails to obscure the fact that he has accurately described the Repub reality.

I find it a little humorous, though. Because everyone chooses their political party - you can't force people to join. So if the Republican party si mostly white it's because almost all the black people ARE DEMOCRATS! Don't tell me that race-tensions play *no part* in people's decisions to identify with their friends more than their beliefs.

It's also humorous that when the Democratic party pursues and boosts their black members/leaders as part of some type of 'urban outreach' or 'get out the vote' movement - that's purely *ok* and *race* couldn't possibly be a negative factor. . . its just great.
But the moment Republicans do it - it's considered overtly negative and profoundly racist even though BOTH parties do the same thing.

Racism is perfectly acceptable in the Democrat party, in fact, it's tauted as a badge of honor or completely looked over - no one can't pretend that race doesn't play a factor into WHY all the black people are *in* the Democratic Party. Hell - if you use to be in the KKK it's fine and forgivable as long as you want to be a DEMOCRAT.

I think people underestimate the low nature of politicians - they don't give a **** - they'll do whatever it takes to get elected.
If you don't believe me - just ask Clinton.

PeteEU said:

I am not assuming, it is pretty clear to everyone but those in denial of the racial issues in the Republican Party.

How many non white delegates were there at RNC meeting that elected Steele? How come it was only after the country dumped the GOP, that the RNC suddenly chose a non white leader (or chairman) out of a very very white membership and delegate number? The reports I have read is, that there were under a handful of black delegates out of the 168+ people there, and they happen to choose a black candidate for the first time just after loosing the presidency to a black man .... yea right....

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So, based on the low number of black Republicans, that's proof positive that those black party members are just niggers who don't know any better? You're a foreigner, dude. How can you possibly expect to be taken seriously on this subject?

let's see what this republican house negro is about:

The case stems from an incident August 20 at a military base in Taji, just north of Baghdad, when West was interrogating an Iraqi policeman, who was believed to have information about a plot to assassinate West with an ambush on a U.S. convoy.

In testimony at an Article 32 hearing -- the military's version of a grand jury or preliminary hearing -- West said the policeman, Yahya Jhrodi Hamoody, was not cooperating with interrogators, so he watched four of his soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion beat the detainee on the head and body.
West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

Asked if he would have act differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."

Puckett argued that because West is always accompanied by U.S. troops that he acted to save American lives.

But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Prosecutor Capt. Magdalena Pezytulska said West should be tried for assault and for communicating a threat. "This is a case about a man who lost his temper," she argued. "There are consequences for [West's] actions."

When West testified that he had "no malice toward Hamoody" and that he "just wanted information," Pezytulska presented a document of West's typed statement following the August incident. She asked him to read his own written words to the court: "In my anger, I couldn't remember how many shots were fired."

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CNN.com - U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - Dec. 13, 2003
absolutely delighted this is the type of lying individual the republicans use to exhibit their values

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers,"

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A man that puts the welfare of his soldiers ahead if his own, even facing prosecution for his actions? That's a leader.

Jetboogieman said:

Would you like to elaborate on how EXACTLY Obama is a racist? Oh wait he's not... more partisan hackery.

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He's the most devout racist this side of Reverend Wright, his esteemed mentor, and everybody in the U.S. now sees it plain as day.

Erod said:

He's the most devout racist this side of Reverend Wright, his esteemed mentor, and everybody in the U.S. now sees it plain as day.

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Oh yeah that's right........

Because you say so.

Obama is not a racist. There's no proof of that.

Can you stop using the term nigger and negro, please.
I'm not sure how you're using it - sarcastically or as satire - but can you put a lid on it?

Jetboogieman said:

Oh yeah that's right........

Because you say so.

Obama is not a racist. There's no proof of that.

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No proof?

Who said that, "white man's greed, runs a world in need"? Was that Obama, or the tooth fairy?

Face it. Obama don't like white folks.

apdst said:

No proof?

Who said that, "white man's greed, runs a world in need"? Was that Obama, or the tooth fairy?

Face it. Obama don't like white folks.

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Well you know "the man" has been down on him real hard, it has been difficult for Obama to accomplish anything or get anywhere in life, ya know.:2razz: