So, you're projecting that my education is difficient, without bearing the burden of proving that such is the case... How positively CONVENIENT! I imagine that this is quite a time saver. Sadly, for your argument, to assert that my eduation is deficient, at least where the argument rests in a valid construct, you'll need to produce evidence which on SOME LEVEL discredits my argument; rest assured that ad populum rants which merely imply such to be the case, isn't going to get it done.
Your INITIAL claim was that Moderates Centrists Independants and Libertarians are 'Leftist' and 'Progressive'. I disagreed.
I hope you didn't read Mellie's post pointing out Glenn Beck leans Libertarian.
Your argument therefor would be claiming Glenn Beck is progressive.
We don't want that do we?
As for labeling Moderates, Independents, and Centrists as progressives, I will discuss that below.
Hmm... Seriously? "Birds of a feather..." "Guilt by association.."
Wrong is wrong...and remains so, despite being combined with an equal measure of right. Progressivism is defined by it's historical pursuit of the Middle or Third Way... Theft remains theft, whether one blows through the bank doors, guns blazing... or if one merely picks up a deposit errantly left behind on the counter, by one's neighbor.
Being progressive is the
intent to use governmental power to force an issue.
Progressives usually associate themselves with the Democratic Party.
But don't get confused! Not everyone in the Democratic party is progressive!
There are many types of progressives. You can be Liberal, Conservative, Libertarian, Moderate progressive.
You can also be Liberal, Conservative, Libertarian, and Moderate without being progressive.
Remember if you disagree with this statement you state you believe Glenn Beck is progressive.
We wouldn't want that would we?
So you disagree with the argument and as a result need to declare the argument sub-reasonable; and this presumably to avoid the responsibility which otherwise requires you show that Progressivism is historically distinct from populism; which ironically, rests in this belly of this course in the construct of raw ad populum.
ROFL... As obscurance goes... it's BRILLIANT! It's too bad that you're not trying to prove yourself a Progressive. As this would be a monumental demonstration of a solid effort toward that end.
It's too bad you're trying to argue your claims in posts #45 and #47 without any reason explaining these claims. This would be a monumental demonstration of a solid effort to dodge an intellectually sound debate.
So you overtly avoid answering the challenge and feel comfortable merely re-stating that the opposing argument is irrational. Here's the thing Sis; what you're doing is appealing to the popularity which you sense favors your argument. I asked you SPECIFICALLY to state which of my claims you feel are irrational...
Again refer to posts #45 and #47. I believe in my INITIAL post i argued this. And nowhere in your paragraphs of incoherent rambling, have you given legitimate reason for why you made these comments.
I further offered you my best guess and responded to that; pointing out that you claim in argument to be a libertarian and claim in your forum shingle to be a moderate;which by default accepts what you no doubt feel is the best half of the Leftist ideology;
When did i state i was Libertarian?
Who are you to argue my 'forum shingle' when yours is undisclosed?
which conclusively demonstrates the above noted would-be pursuit of the Middle Way, which is the defining function of Progressivism...
No it doesn't.
Suffice it to again say, that the point is merely to note that those who oppose Glenn Beck do so because Beck's position stands at odds with their own. Becks position is that which contests the Progressive subversion of American principles
Too bad your idea of Progressive labels Glenn Beck as one. So clearly your idea of being progressive and Glenn's idea are different.
and in so doing subverting America herself, entirely. You've overtly taken up the challenge to Becks position and my defense of same. As I've repeatedly noted; it's not a complex equation.
So you and Beck have similar if not the same ideals.
Oh! so you're claiming now that you're simply here to argue the University and this without ANY judgment of whether Beck himself, is right or wrong. Well that's perfectly deceitful and utterly fraudulent. It could be absolute perfection in Progressive reasoning.
Actually i was here to argue how your claim of Libertarians, moderates, centrists, and liberals are progressive, or linked in some other direct way. I never once said Beck is right, or wrong. You put that argument upon me.
I stated that discussing the political ideals of a Libertarian were off-topic.
(Now you DO understand, that to this point at least, your position has been to DENY that you're a progressive?)
Do you understand, that to this point at least, your position was to give your reasons as to why Libertarians, Centrists, Moderates, and Independents are Progressive?
Well sure... Because, after all there are no immutable American principles... Anything or anyone can lay claim to being American... as long as they can claim citizenship, or happen to be standing within the geographical scope of the Americas... Right?
Anyone can claim to be American through citizenship.
I believe there are American Principles, as to them being immutable, that is debatable.
Uh oh... Looks like you're down to qualification... demanding now that ALL progressives are somehow distinct from one another, thus not necessarily 'anti-American.'
They are distinct. Which is why I wish you to study on them rather then put your own label on them. It would do you good.
Well there's nothing particularly complex about it... the answer is that the would-be liberal is not a libertarian; but has either delusionally or deceptively taken to associate themselves with such, to avoid being identified as one who overtly opposes the immutable principles of nature that define America...
So you admit a Libertarian is not a Liberal? We might be getting somewhere.
Which is the same reason that their predecessors took on the label of "liberal"... It serves the purpose of the ruse, the fraudulent facade; it is the tool of the insurgency, the purpose of which is to sever the culture from it's foundational, principled moorings.
More rambling.
Now just to make sure the point is not lost in the obscurance which your response will no doubt serve, given the record; The challenge has been put to you to DEFINE "America" in such a way which would provide for Leftism in all of it's various conjurings, rationalizations and forms, could be reasonably counted in viable membership. Which simply means, Sis... That I am asking you to explain what America IS and to do so in such a way which allows for Left-think to considered "American".
Best of luck to ya.
I will ignore your random challenges until you counter my Argument based on your allegations in posts #45 and #47.
Best of luck to ya.
