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Glenn Beck launches online University

Mellie said:
I've never heard him say Democrats are going to destroy the U.S. He HAS said that progressives will destroy the U.S. as we know it (Democrats AND Republicans). Saying that he actually seriously thinks they will make the Earth explode is just silly. It's hyperbole used for humor. You see?
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He does use witty statements and accusations to refer to said progressives as liberals. He never does say so in a direct statement. Like i said, he's good.
 
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LimeLight said:
I think these guys sometimes envy Jon Stewart and Colbert. I know i would if i hosted a show on a News network. Why so serious all the time?
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Glenn and Rush have been doing comedy on their shows long before Colbert and Stewart made an appearance with their own shows.
 
LimeLight said:
He does use witty statements and accusations to refer to said liberals as progressives. He never does say so in a direct statement. Like i said, he's good.
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Liberals are progressives.
 
Mellie said:
I've never heard him say Democrats are going to destroy the U.S. He HAS said that progressives will destroy the U.S. as we know it (Democrats AND Republicans). Saying that he actually seriously thinks they will make the Earth explode is just silly. It's hyperbole used for humor. You see?
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I realize that is what he wants it to be for. Expect when he goes on his talks he sorts of leaves out the humor part until the very end so he can cover his ass. And the man is great at it, but it is just cover for him.
 
Mellie said:
Glenn and Rush have been doing comedy on their shows long before Colbert and Stewart made an appearance with their own shows.
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Not a whole show. As posted above. Rush can so as he pleases in my opinion, I think radio is a bit different then say a heavily watched cable news network. Fox News by no means should have approved that segment. I do stand by my statement that sometimes Glenn probably does envy not necessarily their shows, but more of their approach on News.
 
Mellie said:
Glenn and Rush have been doing comedy on their shows long before Colbert and Stewart made an appearance with their own shows.
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I don't know Stewart has been doing the Daily Show since 1998. Pretty sure Beck started radio in 2000.
 
Mellie said:
Glenn and Rush have been doing comedy on their shows long before Colbert and Stewart made an appearance with their own shows.
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Now if Beck and Limbaugh had some comedic talent.....
 
soccerboy22 said:
I realize that is what he wants it to be for. Expect when he goes on his talks he sorts of leaves out the humor part until the very end so he can cover his ass. And the man is great at it, but it is just cover for him.
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You're assuming he puts in humor in order to say "Nah, I really don't believe anything I say." That's incorrect. He uses humor in several ways. Ever watch the frog in boiling water episode? It was funny. He used humor to make the point that people (frogs) immediately jump out of boiling water, but when they're put into lukewarm water and gradually heated up, they don't realize they're being boiled to death. When our government gradually takes away our freedoms, changes history (thank you, Mrs. Obama) and takes us farther away from our Founding Fathers, we don't realize it until we're so far gone that we can't get back.

Sometimes he uses humor for exaggeration (like the Fear segment that was posted above).

Sometimes he uses humor to make fun of himself (the crying picture), the picture of himself as a clown, etc.

Never does he use humor to refute the seriousness of what he's saying. I'm absolutely certain he believes what he says.
 
Mellie said:
Liberals are progressives.
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Sorry i meant "said progressives as liberals" I'll edit that. But being liberal and being progressive isn't the same.
 
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soccerboy22 said:
I don't know Stewart has been doing the Daily Show since 1998. Pretty sure Beck started radio in 2000.
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Glenn has been in radio since the late 70s.
 
LimeLight said:
Sorry i meant "said progressives as liberals" I'll edit that. But being liberal and being progressive isn't the same.
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Agreed. What do you think the difference is?
 
Mellie said:
Agreed. What do you think the difference is?
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I believe there's a difference in the approach of being progressive and the approach of being liberal.

Progressive is more of using governmental power as a force for an issue.

Liberal is more of tax and spend approach.

It all depends on your outlook of the derogatory.

I feel Glenn Beck links many aspects of being progressive, being liberal, and being socialist into one big goulash labeling it as an Anti-American tyranny seeking New World Order. But hey, if the narrative sells that's all the media really cares about in this era. The only reason I don't watch Beck is because he comes off to me as a conspiracist. I'm just not into that kind of stuff. I would much rather listen to someone I would consider reasonable in these unreasonable times.
 
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I vary on a lot of issues. I tend to be more conservative when it comes to foreign policy but more liberal culturally. I haven't found someone i agree 100% on. But i don't have to agree with someone to consider them reasonable. As long as they can make somewhat of a legitimate issue and debate it in a civil manner, I'll listen. But once they scream tyranny or use irrational contrast to support their narrative, it turns me off. I can listen to a lot of news anchors on Fox, MSNBC, and CNN without tearing my hair out. Bias isn't my issue because i can distinguish the difference.
 
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PubliusInfinitu said:
ROFLMNAO! Serious political analysis founded upon the heady intellectual perch of "Comedy Central".

The best part is they're PROUD AS HELL of it... But hey, that's the nature of Populism... it's empty and meaningless... PRIME for the imparting of deceit and fraud.
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I nominate you for CC's new bobo doll. You are in an asshole class of your self, bitch.
 
LimeLight said:
Again you should seek to educate yourselves on other points of view other then yourself. Earlier you labeled a libertarian as a "leftie". You have absolutely no idea what your talking about and you really need to educate yourself. I worry about people like you.
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ROFL... Well Liberals are groping for a new label and "Libertarian" seems to be the next 'best chance'... But all one needs to know of a given person's ideology, is to see those positions with which they agree. When one is agreeing with a Moderate, Centrist, Mainstream Progressive, it's a pretty fair bet, that one is a Leftist.

LimeLight said:
But the odds require that SOONER OR LATER... they'll eventually produce an argument wherein they demonstrate that rejecting American principle can potentially provide the bearer with the means to ADHERE TO THE CORRELATING TITLE.

And yes... this is a backhanded challenge to simply state where you've the means to disagree with Beck, by showing where he was inaccurate and has wrongly represented the facts, providing for a valid means to disagree... and NOT be recognized as a Progressive anti-American.

It's not a particularly complex equation ..
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Also i never stated that he was wrong or supported inaccurate facts. I believe that was someone else. So i have never engaged in a debate with you. I was simply pointing out you were wrong in your claim of "Leftists trying to pawn themselves off as Moderate, Centrist, Main-stream independents." Also if you believe those that disagree with Beck are Progressive Anti-American, I once again urge you to educate yourself.
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Sweet default concession...

Reasonable people do not disagree with intellectually sound, logically valid, immutable natural principle and then claim to adhere to such. Ya see, those are mutually exclusive, diametrically opposing positions.

Reasonable people can however claim to disagree with a position, by demonstrating that the position is logically invalid, intellectually unsound in a countering position, which either either discredits or refutes that position.

Again, it's not a complex concept.
 
I guess Pub isn't talking to me anymore. :(
 
PubliusInfinitu said:
ROFL... Well Liberals are groping for a new label and "Libertarian" seems to be the next 'best chance'... But all one needs to know of a given person's ideology, is to see those positions with which they agree. When one is agreeing with a Moderate, Centrist, Mainstream Progressive, it's a pretty fair bet, that one is a Leftist.



Sweet default concession...
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If you wish to learn about political parties and ideals, I believe there is a post on these forums to do so. I don't need any type of reasonable and sound counter argument to tell you a libertarian is not a liberal. If you wish to truly distinguish the difference I suggest visiting that thread. Further argument with you is not 'reasonable' to me. By default, using your irrational claims, I choose to not argue with someone of your magnitude. Doing so will most likely result in throwing this thread completely off-topic. If you wish to understand other parties, I urge you to do research, then we will have an intellectually sound discussion. I believe Mellie wishes to know why you think libertarians are leftists. Perhaps you should start there.
 
I challenge the Liberals and Others who call names and claim What Glenn says is propaganda to come up with specific items where he got it wrong, and not use the Alensky

I was impressed when Beck joined me in his realization that Obama was a Socialist/Marxist and he continues to get it right on target pointing out two things Liberals can't deal with, FACTS & the TRUTH.

It is beyond the ability of Leftists to deal in reality.
 
Pbrauer already made a thread where Beck used what the President said edited it to look like the President said something else. In fact he linked it a few posts ago.
 
PubliusInfinitu said:
Now this would have been a MARVELOUS opportunity for the member to have presented an intellectually sound, logically valid argument which demonstrates precisely HOW any of Beck's arguments represent revisionism.

Naturally, as a Progressive and self proclaimed 'liberal'... while implying that such is a fact, they're HELPLESS to actually offer any evidence of such, let alone an actual argument.

Deceit and fraud... It's who and what they are.
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actually, glen beck perpetrates fraud on his listeners every day he is on the air. got vicks?
 
liblady said:
actually, glen beck perpetrates fraud on his listeners every day he is on the air. got vicks?
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I think he tends to open up his program with a good point or question. His answers is what he completely blows out of proportion. WAY out of proportion.
 
LimeLight said:
I think he tends to open up his program with a good point or question. His answers is what he completely blows out of proportion. WAY out of proportion.
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okay, i can go with that. however, he doesn't just blow things out of proportion, he eviscerates common sense.
 
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