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Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

James,

There have been hundred, or thousands of holes dilled without incident.
If we stop, 11 or more nations will continue in the same region.

I understand the reasons of the 8 experts whose recommendations were falsified.

They clearly explained why they shouldn't stop.

But respect your concern.

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The fact all those wells been drilled without incident is luck and means very little when another leak occurs. If they can fix leaks within a timely manner then I could care less where they drill, Yellowstone, anwr, some other park or nature close to shore or on the beach go ahead and drill. somewhere that takes months to fix a leak should not be there,until the technology arrives that such leaks can be fixed in a timely manner.
 
You hit on something there. Why are they way out there when they can reach the same oil in shallow drilling and its much safer and easier to manage?

Answer: Forced out there by government in response to the environmental lobby.
This is a manufactured disaster designed to further the environmental agenda. Follow the money back and it leaves a clear trail back to Washington.
 
The technology is there. They can stop the leak if they really want to. They just...dont.
 
The technology is there. They can stop the leak if they really want to. They just...dont.

Why wouldn't "they" want to stop the leak. What benefit is there in keeping it going?
 
Lets try something new in the news.
The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
To do less ends up as a pack of lies!
The environmentalists want no drilling, I believe.
Those who work the rigs, I'd say, most do want drilling....
Who rules???
Politicians backing the environmentalists and those who earn their living from the clean waters and shores want no drilling, I think
Politicians on the oil company payrolls do want drilling, of course.
Who rules??
Honesty seems to be rare and so is compromise.
 
You may have a point about whether, or not they, "care", about the little folks. However, they do alot better job at taking care of the little folks than the government does. The government only cares when votes are on the line. If I had to choose between a politician and a fat cat CEO, I'll take the fat cat CEO anyday. At least the CEO doesn't win anything by putting me out of work. If the politician puts me out of work, then he gets to look like the big hero when he gives me my welfare check and tell people about how compationate he is. Why do you think Obama has milked this oil slick like he has. Because he, "cares"? I'm not feellin' the love.

The government can't create jobs nor wealth. The oil companies can.

I know of eleven rig workers who would disagree with you.
Trouble, is dead men tell no tales, nor the truth.
 
Then I'd really start asking questions because this has happened one time in 60 years. If it were to happen again within a year I'd start really wondering WTF was going on.

One offshore blowout in 60 years? For a guy who pretends to know so much about offshore drilling, you're amazingly uninformed.

Offshore Blowouts

1. Sedco 135F and the IXTOC-1 Well - 3,500,000 barrels released
In 1979, the IXTOC-1 blowout flowed uncontrollably in the Bahia de Campeche, Mexico until it was capped 9 months later.

2. Ekofisk Bravo Platform - 202,381 barrels released
Phillips Petroleum's Ekofisk B platform experienced an 8-day oil and gas blowout in 1977 during a production well workover.

3. Funiwa No. 5 Well - 200,000 barrels
Oil from the 1980 Funiwa 5 blowout polluted the Niger Delta for 2 weeks, followed by fire and the eventual bridging of the well.

4. Hasbah Platform Well 6 - 100,000 barrels
Drilled in 1980 by the Ron Tappmeyer jack-up, exploratory well No. 6 blew out in the Persian Gulf for 8 days and cost the lives of 19 men.

5. Union Oil Platform Alpha Well A-21 - 80,000 barrels
The 1969 Union Oil Platform A blowout lasted 11 days but continued leaking oil into the Santa Barbara Channel for months afterwards.

Of course, this is a list of just the five worst offshore blowouts. There are plenty more (see above link).

And here, you will find an extremely long list of oil rig disasters (some man made, some by weather), most of which included fires, spills, deaths, and/or the collapse of the entire rig.
 
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One offshore blowout in 60 years? For a guy who pretends to know so much about offshore drilling, you're amazingly uninformed.



Of course, this is a list of just the five worst offshore blowouts. There are plenty more (see above link).

And here, you will find an extremely long list of oil rig disasters (some man made, some by weather), most of which included fires, spills, deaths, and/or the collapse of the entire rig.

So it happens. I'll ask those opposed to stopping drilling what will they say about the president if it happened again?
 
Seeing how long it is taking BP to fix the leak and the damage its doing to local tourism and fishing hasn't helped the case for off shore oil drilling. Its like asking to build a nuclear power plant right after the Chernobyl disaster. A lot of people do not like taking risks after a worst case scenario has happened.

Frankly I don't think they know exactly what to do. I think this is beyond conventional expertise. The govt estimated that such a spill wouldn't reach land and would be disipated through dilution and evaporation.
 
Why wouldn't "they" want to stop the leak. What benefit is there in keeping it going?
Cap and trade is why, the Obama is pushing this and what better excuse than our current disaster in the Gulf. Foot dragging and deny help from those with resources seems very odd to me. This is crimminal behavior on behalf of our government and i hope the day comes when all involved stand before our justice system.
 
Cap and trade is why, the Obama is pushing this and what better excuse than our current disaster in the Gulf. Foot dragging and deny help from those with resources seems very odd to me. This is crimminal behavior on behalf of our government and i hope the day comes when all involved stand before our justice system.

What can the government do to fix the leak that BP or any other oil company can't?
 
Frankly I don't think they know exactly what to do. I think this is beyond conventional expertise. The govt estimated that such a spill wouldn't reach land and would be disipated through dilution and evaporation.

This is why deep off shore oil drilling should be off limits.Close to shore, on the beach, in ANWR,Yellowstone national park or anywhere they can get oil should be allowed seeing how those leaks can be fixed in a timely manner.
 
What can the government do to fix the leak that BP or any other oil company can't?
Drilling the relief well if not Implode the hole . Although the actual fix would be to allow drilling in shallower water, better yet on land but the EPA influcences the government to deny leases. Drilling in 5000 feet of water is insane, I think there is a lot more to this situation than we think. George Soro's just invested millions in the Brazilian oil company, who have already put bids on the drill rigs in the gulf which are or will be idle, in preperation to drill at 7000 feet plus...strange. Any way the relief well will take the pressure out of the current hole, When the new well is drilled I will assume they will cap it immediately. That said, 2000 oil skimmers in the U.S., Europeans countries with oil skimmers all have been denied..why. The oil spill in the Indian Ocean twice as big as we have in the gulf was cleaned up in a matter of months with this equipment.
 
The fact all those wells been drilled without incident is luck and means very little when another leak occurs. If they can fix leaks within a timely manner then I could care less where they drill, Yellowstone, anwr, some other park or nature close to shore or on the beach go ahead and drill. somewhere that takes months to fix a leak should not be there,until the technology arrives that such leaks can be fixed in a timely manner.

Then the government was irresponsible for forcing them to drill at those depths.

Oil could be had at far leasser depths, and as the former CEO of Dutch Shell noted, they would be able to fix such problems in a couple days with divers.

The odds of it happening again is shown to be small.

Here are a couple problems noted by experts in the field:

1. Closing down oil production for any length of time will mean the best and newest rigs will leave. If the rigs come back, it will be the older rigs, not the newer.
2. You lose skilled labor. Replaced by less skilled workers.

Crude Politics - WSJ.com
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This is why deep off shore oil drilling should be off limits.Close to shore, on the beach, in ANWR,Yellowstone national park or anywhere they can get oil should be allowed seeing how those leaks can be fixed in a timely manner.

That I can agree with, but as they cannot, they have to drill in those waters previously permitted.

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I was right. In your list, you didn't mention a single blowout releasing a million gallons a day in 5000' of water! So thanks for proving me right!!! :2wave:

The instances you mention hail in comparison to what is happening now. Of course they've had blowouts, but they've never had a blowout in 5000' of water, with over a million gallons a day being released.

You're comparing apples to oranges. The WORST one you mentioned is what this well releases in 2-3 days and that was in Mexico! So thanks again, once again, I'm proven right!

So keep pretending you know what's going on down here! I need a good laugh!

One offshore blowout in 60 years? For a guy who pretends to know so much about offshore drilling, you're amazingly uninformed.



Of course, this is a list of just the five worst offshore blowouts. There are plenty more (see above link).

And here, you will find an extremely long list of oil rig disasters (some man made, some by weather), most of which included fires, spills, deaths, and/or the collapse of the entire rig.
 
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This is why deep off shore oil drilling should be off limits.Close to shore, on the beach, in ANWR,Yellowstone national park or anywhere they can get oil should be allowed seeing how those leaks can be fixed in a timely manner.

You know, originally, land jobs and shallow water jobs weren't fixed in a, "timely manner", either, right?

Around the turn of the century, in Oklahoma, wells would blowout and burn for weeks. This well was burning, but someone thought it would be a brilliant idea to like, put it out.
 
One offshore blowout in 60 years? For a guy who pretends to know so much about offshore drilling, you're amazingly uninformed.



Of course, this is a list of just the five worst offshore blowouts. There are plenty more (see above link).

And here, you will find an extremely long list of oil rig disasters (some man made, some by weather), most of which included fires, spills, deaths, and/or the collapse of the entire rig.

And, the world didn't come to an end, either, did it?

I bet you didn't even know those blowouts happened, 'til your Libbo chain email pointed them out to you.

While we're at it, let's post this vid of a well blowout less than 100 yards from Interstate 10, in the Atchafalaya Basin a few years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0F-y9ZwK3w

Let's post this pic of shallow water well that was, what? You got it...allowed to burn. It was a Louisiana well that blew out in 1996.

Greenhill%20Job.jpg
 
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I was right. In your list, you didn't mention a single blowout releasing a million gallons a day in 5000' of water! So thanks for proving me right!!!

The instances you mention hail in comparison to what is happening now. Of course they've had blowouts, but they've never had a blowout in 5000' of water, with over a million gallons a day being released.

You're comparing apples to oranges. The WORST one you mentioned is what this well releases in 2-3 days and that was in Mexico! So thanks again, once again, I'm proven right!

So keep pretending you know what's going on down here! I need a good laugh!

You're such a pinhead.
  • The Deepwater Horizon was the deepest offshore oil well on the planet, EVER.
  • It blew up after being in operation for a grand total of SEVEN MONTHS.
  • It produced the largest offshore oil spill in US history.

:doh

Even someone as thick as you should be able to understand the point here:

The more record-breaking ultra-deepwater drills we build, the greater the potential for record-breaking disasters like this one.
 
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That I can agree with, but as they cannot, they have to drill in those waters previously permitted.

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This is why this incident should be used to promote drilling in safer places and to push for places closer to shore.
 
Cap and trade is why, the Obama is pushing this and what better excuse than our current disaster in the Gulf. Foot dragging and deny help from those with resources seems very odd to me. This is crimminal behavior on behalf of our government and i hope the day comes when all involved stand before our justice system.

I'm pretty sure an practical person will take advantage of anything they can, but even then we can still weigh it on the evidence. There is some evidence these probelms happen, and if they happen, no matter what other reasons might be in play, then it has to be evaluated within the context of the possible problems.
 
I'm pretty sure an practical person will take advantage of anything they can, but even then we can still weigh it on the evidence. There is some evidence these problems happen, and if they happen, no matter what other reasons might be in play, then it has to be evaluated within the context of the possible problems.
Well Obama being a practical person in his cause will never let a good crisis go to waste. This problem is very easy to solve allow drilling in shallow water and on shore but if this happens cap and trade will no longer carry any weight. This disaster plays right into Obama hand and he will capitalize on it for all it's worth. The foot dragging on behalf of his administration is very telling on what Obama's agenda is, taking over the markets one piece at a time.
 
You're such a pinhead.
  • The Deepwater Horizon was the deepest offshore oil well on the planet, EVER.
  • It blew up after being in operation for a grand total of SEVEN MONTHS.
  • It produced the largest offshore oil spill in US history.

:doh

Even someone as thick as you should be able to understand the point here:

The more record-breaking ultra-deepwater drills we build, the greater the potential for record-breaking disasters like this one.

And now, those American rigs that Buckey put out of work are going down to Brazil, to work for George Soros' Petrobras and start drilling at over 2,000 meters.
 
You're such a pinhead.
  • The Deepwater Horizon was the deepest offshore oil well on the planet, EVER.
  • It blew up after being in operation for a grand total of SEVEN MONTHS.
  • It produced the largest offshore oil spill in US history.

:doh

Even someone as thick as you should be able to understand the point here:

The more record-breaking ultra-deepwater drills we build, the greater the potential for record-breaking disasters like this one.

So you resort to namecalling when you know you've been beat? Your "lean" has now been disclosed, your a typical lib!

In one post you say, "for someone who pretends to know about the gulf" and in the next you're calling me a pinhead. You know, you don't increase your credibility here when you attack one of a handful of posters on this entire forum who've lived this life for 40+ years. You make yourself look bad, trust me on this one.

Namecalling is a method used by those who know they've been beat. And we all know you've been beat, hun.
 
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Well Obama being a practical person in his cause will never let a good crisis go to waste. This problem is very easy to solve allow drilling in shallow water and on shore but if this happens cap and trade will no longer carry any weight. This disaster plays right into Obama hand and he will capitalize on it for all it's worth. The foot dragging on behalf of his administration is very telling on what Obama's agenda is, taking over the markets one piece at a time.

Not sure that's true, but again the point is that it is meaningless. The trouble before us is off shore drilling. And that is the issue before us. If this mistake can happen again, and evidence has been presented that it does happen, then Obama has reason to hold on it, right?
 
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