May 14, 2010 AP IMPACT: US drug war has met none of its goals

Kerlikowske, who coordinates all federal anti-drug policies, says it will take time for the spending to match the rhetoric.

“Nothing happens overnight,” he said. “We’ve never worked the drug problem holistically. We’ll arrest the drug dealer, but we leave the addiction.”

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Obama and his clowns can admit what has been realized for years about the Drug War but until they actually do something (like letting states decide drug policy) they're just blowing smoke.

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Yes, clearly the failing War on Drugs is Obama's fault.

Deuce said:

Yes, clearly the failing War on Drugs is Obama's fault.

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That's not what he said at all. Why don't you try reading before you knee-jerk to defending Obama from a charge that wasn't even leveled against him?

Deuce said:

Yes, clearly the failing War on Drugs is Obama's fault.

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The funny thing is that if he was to address this issue even in the slightest all the conservative media pundits would be on TV the next day telling people that he's tackling too many issues at once and that he doesn't care about the economy cause he can walk and chew gum at the same time, lol.

roughdraft274 said:

The funny thing is that if he was to address this issue even in the slightest all the conservative media pundits would be on TV the next day telling people that he's tackling too many issues at once and that he doesn't care about the economy cause he can walk and chew gum at the same time, lol.

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I think it has more to do with political capital than it does with whether he can multitask.

Look at how the Healthcare scam nearly crushed his ability to continue being effective at all.

jallman said:

That's not what he said at all. Why don't you try reading before you knee-jerk to defending Obama from a charge that wasn't even leveled against him?

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It was a joke, but I see how you came to this conclusion. Apologies.

Deuce said:

It was a joke, but I see how you came to this conclusion. Apologies.

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I can see that now...my bad. Sarcastic humor sometimes doesn't translate well across the interwebz. :2wave:

The war on drugs was patently designed to fail...similarly to the war on guns.

When you find a way to manipulate demand curves, then you can win. Otherwise, it's just PR rhetoric and political hackery.

A government program that has met none of its goals??

Next up at 5:00 - a new study shows that the incidence of teen pregnancy plummets after age 19.

Gipper said:

The war on drugs was patently designed to fail...similarly to the war on guns.

When you find a way to manipulate demand curves, then you can win. Otherwise, it's just PR rhetoric and political hackery.

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Wars on concepts are never going to succeed: War on Drugs, War on Proverty, War on Guns, War on Terror.... silly. How do you win a war on a concept? Who is the enemy? Where is he hiding? Most importantly, How do you know if you have won? Escalating these things to "WAR" status tends to do nothing more than obfuscate the real issues, which in turn dilutes the effectiveness of the "war".

It would be much better if had less hyperbole and more practicality in our politics.

Gipper said:

The war on drugs was patently designed to fail...similarly to the war on guns.

When you find a way to manipulate demand curves, then you can win. Otherwise, it's just PR rhetoric and political hackery.

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So, why didn't Arizona insist on prosecuting employers of illegal immigrants (the demand) rather than what they did. (BTW, I agree with you... and Arizona (or better yet, America) should go after the demand curve.)

chevydriver1123 said:

Obama and his clowns can admit what has been realized for years about the Drug War but until they actually do something (like letting states decide drug policy) they're just blowing smoke.

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Why do we have to turn every story into an anti-Obama hit piece. You derail your own threads in the OP. Obama hasn't fixed the drug problem. The criticism in the article is that too much money does to enforcement and not enough goes to treatment programs.

I'm sure some of the 'very conservatives' love the idea of the government paying for drug treatment.

I wonder how much federal money Az eats up on drug enforcement and treatment....

#2 Every state has it's own drug laws. But when people produce or transport a certain amount that is likely to be sold across state lines...

Heroin isn't produced here. So how can cops in NYC stop the Heroin coming in from Miami and Los Angles then being carried taken New Jersey to be mixed with baby food and then repacked and carried to a club in Manhattan.

You have to acknowledge that there are aspects of the drug trade that only the federal government can deal with.

roughdraft274 said:

The funny thing is that if he was to address this issue even in the slightest all the conservative media pundits would be on TV the next day telling people that he's tackling too many issues at once and that he doesn't care about the economy cause he can walk and chew gum at the same time, lol.

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This may be news to you but there arent many conservative pundits out their who are against the drug war.

hazlnut said:

Why do we have to turn every story into an anti-Obama hit piece. You derail your own threads in the OP. Obama hasn't fixed the drug problem. The criticism in the article is that too much money does to enforcement and not enough goes to treatment programs.

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Obama is the current guy in charge, one of his campaign platforms was the change the drug policy so far he has yet to do it.

I'm sure some of the 'very conservatives' love the idea of the government paying for drug treatment.

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Those on this forum who list themselves as very conservative support the drug war. Proud Police Socialists they are. In addition people like myself support people getting their own treatment, having the government pay for it makes it worse.

#2 Every state has it's own drug laws.

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Which doesnt stop the Feds from conducting their own raids.

chevydriver1123 said:

Which doesnt stop the Feds from conducting their own raids.

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Yes, DEA works with local police to identify larger traffickers then conducts raids when a warrant is issued.

I'm not clear on what you issue is. Marijuana?

Local authorities can request federal assistance when a problem grows out of control. Meth in Arizona and California. Also, shipping of controlled substances is covered by the Feds--rightfully so.

But you understand that NYC police don't have jurisdiction at LAX?