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Stockton cop earns $100K in Overtime!!!

Really? Because, ya see..... that really brings the topic of discussion off the topic we are discussing. Although I was wondering who would ask. :roll:
As a consulation I will tell you my favorite show is 24 and my shoe size is 11 (generally) :2razz:

You just barely scraped thru college, right?
 
Yes pop culture references!
 
She should be paid for the hours she worked, whatever amount that is. Some capitalist you are. :roll:

Of course they should. But, someone obviously has some cost effect crunching to do this year. If that lady is making 200k+ year she better be saving babies and bringing down kingpins for her to keep that salary up yearly. But, as long as her **** smells peachy keen there is nothing wrong with paying her what is due this year.

You give me 200k and I bet I will find the will to seek out and infiltrate any mafia you want around my town.
 
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She's gaming the inefficient behemoth of government, what do you expect her to do? Easy pickings.

Who is going to stop her exactly? The politicians will get around to correcting it in 6 years, and will ensure that they create new loopholes for people so no worries.

They could have filled that time with a straight time person and given someone another job, whose performance would have been statistically better because the wouldn't be working so much overtime. If there is any "blame" at such expenditures it's the institution, not the individual.
 
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She's gaming the inefficient behemoth of government, what do you expect her to do? Easy pickings.

Who is going to stop her exactly? The politicians will get around to correcting it in 6 years, and will ensure that they create new loopholes for people so no worries.

They could have filled that time with a straight time person and given someone another job, whose performance would have been statistically better because the wouldn't be working so much overtime. If there is any "blame" at such expenditures it's the institution, not the individual.

Well.... yes. But there is that LITTLE voice telling me that something isnt right with the whole thing. That a large amout of money was taken from the taxpayer for no reason.
 
Well.... yes. But there is that LITTLE voice telling me that something isnt right with the whole thing. That a large amout of money was taken from the taxpayer for no reason.

Taken? are you implying the money was stolen?
No reason? what does THAT mean?
 
Ok... I JUST called their PD.
Her regular hours were
M-F 7-3 ORRRRRRRR 12-10


The people I spoke with agreed with me that they can NOT understand how she got that large amount of overtime.

If YOU want to call ask for the traffic dept. and ask for a Sgt on Duty: http://www.stocktongov.com/police/
 
Wow, Stockton, CA. I spent a night there in the can. I was arrested in Tracy, but their jail wasn't big enough.

It's obvious to me now that I need to return and find employment in law enforcement. California Gold in them there hills.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, 100k doesn't really go that far in CA.
 
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Ok... I JUST called their PD.
Her regular hours were
M-F 7-3 ORRRRRRRR 12-10


The people I spoke with agreed with me that they can NOT understand how she got that large amount of overtime.

If YOU want to call ask for the traffic dept. and ask for a Sgt on Duty: City of Stockton,CA - Police Department

They actually TALKED to you? a civilian? Who did you talk to? He could likely get fired for that....
 
From my OWN experience (was I saw and what was told to me) Their overtime is laughable. (sitting in court doing nothing for hours on end just to represent the department and/or testify.... or be a desk jockey... or walk around carnivals run by the township.... etc)
The money is there for the taking.... so they took it. BUT..... they didnt get paid NEARLY the amount the cop in the article did. She made $15K more a year unlike the women in the article.

What Im saying is, they paid that lady far far far far too much money for overtime. Her base pay is insane unto itself. Also realize the vacations and they get the best healthcare for free and they get a HUGE pension.
Once again..... the unions are taking advantage on the tax payers. And there and 3 year waiting lists to become a cop in my locality that are paid half the amount of said perp..... errrr.... cop in the article. And not because its the 'honerable' job to get. Its a damn great job to have for certain personality types. (Type A)

And yes, I have dated my fair share of women. And I suppose you can compare my previous post because they were both union jobs where they are over paid for what they do BUT my fiance wasnt overpaid. I dont think she should get a pension though.

Personally, I have no problem compensating police officers who are well trained and dedicated to their professions. If the pay scale were what it should be for this line of work, perhaps more high quality people would enter it. And while some libertarians might say that they and they alone should be responsible for their own safety (and to a certain extent, they are right) quality policing is absolutely essential in modern society -- especially one that is increasingly urbanized.
 
There are a number of different ways that crime prevention works. Here's one of them. We knew that alot of gang members in our community were carrying guns. Our officers did pro-active traffic stops of known gang members and asked for permission to search their cars. They almost always agreed, and we recovered, over the course of a year, hundreds of handguns.

Every handgun we recovered from a known gang member represents how many crimes prevented? And not just shootings...robberies, carjackings, etc.

Another crime prevention strategy that our officers created was to do interviews with victims of gang-related shootings and their families/friends within an hour of the crime. The officers told them: "If you retaliate, we will come and arrest you. Let us handle the crime." This dropped our drive-by shootings in our community by 50%.

You literally have no idea what officers are doing in your community while you're tucked safe in your bed at night to prevent crime.

The cops I worked with were constantly thinking of better ways to do their jobs.

I can't believe how many posts of yours I have thanked in this thread considering previous disagreements we have had. Thank you for this, as well... I am pretty much in total agreement with you on this entire thread.

Quality law enforcement requires adequate salaries to attract professionals to dedicade themselves to a very difficult, dangerous, and complex line of work.
 
It tells me enough if they camp it on a regular basis.

Just because I don't have specific numbers on the amount of money it generates does not take away from that point.
I live in a rural place and the largest town has 32 officers, so when I see 3 to 4 of them enforcing traffic violations on the highway on a rotating schedule.
It lends to the point that there may be over enforcement.

Or it means that there is a problem on that stretch of road with traffic violations and/or accidents. I drive on National Highway 6 on my commute to work and I see people violating traffic regulations, some of them dangerously, nearly every day. I would like to see MORE enforcement than currently exists on that highway, not less.
 
They actually TALKED to you? a civilian? Who did you talk to? He could likely get fired for that....

I agree. That is shocking. That is a violation of the rights of the employee. I can't imagine working for anyone in the States that would simply give out such information to any random caller.
 
You use cops to collect your taxes?

We don't. We just get people to send us checks.

Wow, your town is run by idiots.



Uh-huh.

So would you support abolishing your local police force? If all they do is collect taxes and have no responsibility for personal safety, seems you'd support that.

Would you?


You do realize that it is well known and published that cops have ZERO RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR PERSONAL SAFETY? You did know that right? Their job is for the good of society at large, not any individual.

So yes, personal safety is YOUR job, not theirs. That's why you can't sue if you're robbed and the cops take a long time to get there. It's not their job to come save your ass, whether you like that or not.
 
I can't edit my previous post or I'd have added this. I'm definitely not saying that all they do is collect taxes, but I am definitely saying they have no responsibility for your personal safety.

And the required proof via a link:

Police have no responsibility to protect individuals (reference)

Okay, first of all, the words "proof" and "FreeRepublic" cannot be used in the same post.

Second, the police may not be legally responsible for personal safety (debatable) but they still do a good job of protecting it sometimes.
 
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