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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

Why would I want to serve with a bigot like that in charge. he sounds more like an animal than a leader. He needs to have his head examined IMO to find out what his problem is.

So, you've never served in the military, yet feel you have room to call a man that devoted his life to the service of this country a horse's ass?

How 'bout you go walk a mile in this shoes, then come back and tell us what you think of the situation.
 
This is no different.

Come on! That's different. That type of bigotry was not okay. The one Navy holds on to is perfectly fine. Now watch him complain about how we are intolerant of his intolerance.
 
I'm not losing anything. The man is a bigot and that is not name calling that is what he is. If you want a bigot running a branch of your military knock yourself out. Who else among the troops does this guy hate? Women, blacks, short people etc. He is a hateful bigot and has no business leading anyone anywhere.

That is only the opinion of a person that will not allow another opinion to be heard withoutg calling them names and you on the left say we are the intolerant ones........what a joke.......
 
That is only the opinion of a person that will not allow another opinion to be heard withoutg calling them names and you on the left say we are the intolerant ones........what a joke.......

It took a grand total of 1 minute for him to prove my point. :lol:
 
Come on! That's different. That type of bigotry was not okay. The one Navy holds on to is perfectly fine. Now watch him complain about how we are intolerant of his intolerance.


You got it right.......you call me a bigot. I say your intolerant of other peoples opinions........
 
The truth just hurts doesn't it my left wing friend.........:2wave:

Navy, would you approve of a law that bans black people from the military because of somebody's opinion?
 
You got it right.......you call me a bigot. I say your intolerant of other peoples opinions........

Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black when one intolerant person calls another intolerant person a bigot. That's what I find amusing about many of these libs throwing the bigot label around.
 
Its as different as night and day.......You can't compare a race of people with a class of people who are defined by their sexual preference.......

Your word selection here is very telling, Navy. They are people just like anyone else. In 1948, blacks were considered a class of people. They are people, period. They aren't afforded the privilege of being able to share their relationships like heterosexuals are. If our troops are given an order, they will follow it.
 
Navy, would you approve of a law that bans black people from the military because of somebody's opinion?

katiegrrl0 and PeteEU supports kicking people out of the military because of somebody's opinion.How is that any different?
 
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Come on! That's different. That type of bigotry was not okay. The one Navy holds on to is perfectly fine. Now watch him complain about how we are intolerant of his intolerance.

This isn't bigotry. The Commandant is supporting soldiers's rights. You don't want to violate a soldier's rights, do you?
 
So, you've never served in the military, yet feel you have room to call a man that devoted his life to the service of this country a horse's ass?

How 'bout you go walk a mile in this shoes, then come back and tell us what you think of the situation.

Yes I do. I am capable of seeing bigotry where it is at. This is what this man is. I would further state that anyone that would support him is a bigot as well.

Serving in the military does not require rocket science and is a low profession that almost any one with an IQ over 50 can get into. My IQ is well over 50 so I have the brains not to do such things. I would rather be actually useful and not killing innocents in the invasion of a sovereign nation. So what would my serving in the military have to do with my ability to see the cream of the crop of the low life that find a career being ordered what to do.
 
This isn't bigotry.

Definition of bigotry:

# the intolerance and prejudice of a bigot
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# A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

# bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
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# bigot - A person obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular religious creed, opinion, or practice; a person blindly attached to an opinion ...
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Would you like to try this again?

The Commandant is supporting soldiers's rights. You don't want to violate a soldier's rights, do you?

Which right is that?
 
Navy, would you approve of a law that bans black people from the military because of somebody's opinion?

Would you want to ban anyone because of someone's opinion? Such as katigrl's opinion that this guy is a bigot? Although, he never said anything about not allowing gays in the military. The fact that the's in favor of building the appropriate billets proves he's open to the idea.

But, hey, it's the usual Liberal BS: all, or none. Ya'll can't meet anyone half way.
 
That is only the opinion of a person that will not allow another opinion to be heard withoutg calling them names and you on the left say we are the intolerant ones........what a joke.......

As i said anyone that would support this man is a bigot as well because they hold his views.
 
As i said anyone that would support this man is a bigot as well because they hold his views.

Obviously is interested in making alterations so as to allow gays to serve in the military and you STILL call him a bigot? Where's the bigotry?
 
Would you want to ban anyone because of someone's opinion?

No. Which is basically the point I'm trying to make to your illiterate mindset.

Such as katigrl's opinion that this guy is a bigot?

Who the hell is katigrl?

Although, he never said anything about not allowing gays in the military.The fact that the's in favor of building the appropriate billets proves he's open to the idea.

Ridiculous. Separate housing for members of the same sex is an expenditure which would create more people in opposition to it than for it.

But, hey, it's the usual Liberal BS: all, or none. Ya'll can't meet anyone half way.

This is rich.
 
Yes I do. I am capable of seeing bigotry where it is at. This is what this man is. I would further state that anyone that would support him is a bigot as well.

Serving in the military does not require rocket science and is a low profession that almost any one with an IQ over 50 can get into. My IQ is well over 50 so I have the brains not to do such things. I would rather be actually useful and not killing innocents in the invasion of a sovereign nation. So what would my serving in the military have to do with my ability to see the cream of the crop of the low life that find a career being ordered what to do.


Wow!! Glad to see how you feel about the men and women that keep your smart ass safe from the bad guys.

It's probably a good thing you never served. I saw plenty of smart people in the service that were just in the way and in a couple cases wound up getting people killed.

Perhaps i should thank you for not serving. You probably saved lives.
 
No. Which is basically the point I'm trying to make to your illiterate mindset.



Who the hell is katigrl?



Ridiculous. Separate housing for members of the same sex is an expenditure which would create more people in opposition to it than for it.



This is rich.

This is your response and you call me illiterate?
 
The right to live in work in a harassment free environment.

Harassment is not more likely to occur because somebody is gay and sleeping in a bed 6 feet from you.
 
Harassment is not more likely to occur because somebody is gay and sleeping in a bed 6 feet from you.

Yes, it is. It's the reason that males and females do not billet together.

It's ignorance of the highest order to think that it wouldn't.
 
This is your response and you call me illiterate?

Are you going to cry about a post that destroyed your assertions because there was an ad hom in it? Well good to know your trolling ways haven't changed.
 
Please stop using your dogmatic labels against me.

I just happen to think that, believing somehow that gays will have a negative impact on straight soldiers because they live in the same barracks. Is as rediculous as the notion that somehow black soldiers would make white soldiers worse soldiers.

It's old, fearful thinking.

If they're gay, and they're there anyway. Wouldn't it be like, secretly feeding your kid broccoli, and then him eating it. And then you telling him it's broccoli. And then all of a sudden he hates it, even though he had nothing to say before.

Well, it just shows that its prejudice and fear.

You clearly have never been in the Marine Corps, and most likely not the Army either. Here's a news flash for you: in the U.S. Marines, it's imperative that there are no 'individuals' who want to openly be different than others, in order for the team to perform to the best of their ability. This process begins in boot camp. All recruits in boot camp are each the same pile of crap as the other. But, then one day Obama decides there are two different piles of crap in boot camp; he separates the team and says, you guys can be openly gay piles of crap and the other recruits will be straight piles of crap. But you must still shower and sleep together, so just pretend you're both the same pile of crap and it'll be OK.

If you can somehow explain, in the Marine Corps, how it would be a positive impact if some Marines or recruits decide to differentiate themselves from their peers, then maybe this new plan to 'sexualize' the military is a good one.

My problem with it is this: what the heck is the difference, in the Marine Corps, between not going public with your personal sexual preference, and going public with it? Are you looking for special privileges or a hearty congrats'? What's the goal here? It certainly doesn't provide any increase in the military's effectiveness. And while it shouldn't decrease the military's effectiveness, there are a countless number of situations where all this will do is cause many Marines to feel uncomfortable. That certainly doesn't sound like it will increase effectiveness in the least bit, and it will likely cause a negative outcome.

Besides, as you said, there are currently gays in the military, and I have nothing against this. In fact, my voting record has always supported gay rights. But in this case, I am fully 100% against it. The military is a machine with a system different than anything non-military civilians experience. You can be gay in the military, but is it really so bad that gays cannot disclose the information publicly? What it if means by going public you might make your fellow Marines uncomfortable?

As I said, I've always voted for gay rights. Everyone IS different in a unique way. But in the military, especially in the Marine Corps (different than the Army) where men and women do not go through boot camp together, I am absolutely against the idea of allowing gays to openly serve. In the army, since they do have shared-gender boot camp, and because men and women do go through it together (I've even heard that they get away with having sex in Army boot camp), I guess it'd be fine with me if gays openly serve in the Army. They have a much different set of standards than the Marine Corps. They already have a shared men/women boot camp.
 
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