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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

Good to see some senior officers speaking up on this insanity


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March 26 2010


CNN) -- The Marine Corps' top officer says he would want to avoid housing gay and heterosexual Marines in the same rooms on base if the ban on gays openly serving in the military is lifted.

"I would not ask our Marines to live with someone that's homosexual if we can possibly avoid it," Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway told a Web site in an interview posted Friday. "And to me that means we've got to build [barracks] that have single rooms."

Some senior members of the military, however, have expressed concern over the impact of the ban's repeal on unit cohesion and morale, among other things

Or perhaps in other words, if men and women can't share the same room, then why would you allow openly gay males to live together, or live with heterosexual males?
 
OH NO! Gays and Straights in the same room! No they will make the straight soldiers gay!

What a load of crap.

So you are in support of coed rooms?
 
He should be kicked out of the corp. His views and attitude do not belong in society let alone the military. He is a disgrace to his uniform.
 
Or perhaps in other words, if men and women can't share the same room, then why would you allow openly gay males to live together, or live with heterosexual males?

Good point. I was just getting ready to post a similar question. It seems that some would think that sleeping quarters in the military should be gender neutral. I'm not one that thinks sharing a room with a homosexual would turn someone who is not. I also believe that homosexuals can and have served our country well. The issue is possible unwanted sexual advances.

So for those that say its ok to have male/female homosexuals share the same quarters with non homosexuals of the same gender, then why have seperate quarters for male/female heterosexuals? To be fair, shouldn't we just house everyone togeather, since sex is not an issue?
 
Well that is awfully mature of you.

Probably not, but that would be my gut reaction to a perceived assault.....
I see no valid reason for a gay man to 'hit' on a man he knows is straight, and expect no consequences......
Would my reaction be considered simple assault, or would it be a hate crime?....:confused:
There will be a need to draw up acceptable lines of conduct for the individuals on both sides of this issue.....
I apologize if I offended anyone with my gut reaction to an unwelcomed advance......:3oops:
 
I apologize if I offended anyone with my gut reaction to an unwelcomed advance......:3oops:

You know, I get hit on by women and it just serves as a compliment to me. I look at it like an affirmation that I present an attractive form to either of the sexes and I should be proud of that. There is no reason to become offended over unsolicited advances until they cross the line to unwelcome advances.
 
OH NO! Gays and Straights in the same room! No they will make the straight soldiers gay!

no, it's a matter of cohabitation. gonna play hell with berthing logistics.
 
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Gays already live in the dorms with all the other same-gender soldiers today without problems. Claiming co-habitation would be an issue is absurd, as they are co-habitating as we speak and it works perfectly.
 
i don't see how them sharing houseing could have a negative impact, the gay soldiers would be just as professional as the straight soldiers, i sincerely doubt there would be a difference in on base behaviour.

It would create a negative impact the same way that forcing males and females to live together would create a negative impact on morale and discipline.

It's what I've been saying all along and now the military is echoing the same thing. Gee!
 
Gays already live in the dorms with all the other same-gender soldiers today without problems. Claiming co-habitation would be an issue is absurd, as they are co-habitating as we speak and it works perfectly.

They live together unknowingly. When everything is out in the open, sexual harrassment cases will go through the roof; taking time away from training to deal with a buncha BS.
 
He should be kicked out of the corp. His views and attitude do not belong in society let alone the military. He is a disgrace to his uniform.

Eurotrash opinions about the military especially by those who have not served in their own nation's military are totally irrelevant as to what what views and attitudes belong in another country's military. I realize that in Europe you people do not believe in free speech have enacted though crime laws under the guise of hate speech, but the US we actually value free speech regardless if we like or hate what someone else says.
 
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He should be kicked out of the corp. His views and attitude do not belong in society let alone the military. He is a disgrace to his uniform.

No, he shouldn't be cashiered from the service. He is the commandant of The Marine Corps. The Corps's combat readiness is his number one concern; that is his job, not satisfying your political agenda.
 
They should just put the homophobic bigot out of the military. it is not gays that create a problem it is intense bigotry. This guy is a horses ass.
 
Probably not, but that would be my gut reaction to a perceived assault.....
I see no valid reason for a gay man to 'hit' on a man he knows is straight, and expect no consequences......
Would my reaction be considered simple assault, or would it be a hate crime?....:confused:
There will be a need to draw up acceptable lines of conduct for the individuals on both sides of this issue.....
I apologize if I offended anyone with my gut reaction to an unwelcomed advance......:3oops:

If an unattractive woman hits on you would you bash her face in with the butt of your rifle?
 
Gays already live in the dorms with all the other same-gender soldiers today without problems

technically no. as far as the military is concerned, everyone in the barracks is a heterosexual.

Claiming co-habitation would be an issue is absurd

:confused: um, no, it's not. cohabitation is prohibited already. there is no reason to suspect that the military would somehow decide it was no longer an issue.
 
Gays already live in the dorms with all the other same-gender soldiers today without problems. Claiming co-habitation would be an issue is absurd, as they are co-habitating as we speak and it works perfectly.

There are problems, 15,000 gays have been disccharged for various reasons since DADT was enacted.....
 
They should just put the homophobic bigot out of the military. it is not gays that create a problem it is intense bigotry. This guy is a horses ass.

What unit did you serve in and what qualifies you to know more about what's good for the Marine Corps than the commandant of The Marine Corps.

I look forward to your answer.
 
What unit did you serve in and what qualifies you to know more about what's good for the Marine Corps than the commandant of The Marine Corps.

I look forward to your answer.

Why would I want to serve with a bigot like that in charge. he sounds more like an animal than a leader. He needs to have his head examined IMO to find out what his problem is.
 
Why would I want to serve with a bigot like that in charge. he sounds more like an animal than a leader. He needs to have his head examined IMO to find out what his problem is.

Why do lefties like you always call names when you are losing the debate or when someone else has a different opinion then you on the issue..This Marine has forgot more about the military then you will ever know.......
 
Hechler recalled how as commander-in-chief Truman fought that pervasive racism in the senior ranks and took his generals to task for not initially falling in line with his civil rights initiative.

He noted one instance when five star Army General Omar Bradley, the so-called "GI's general" given his popularity amongst the rank and file, remarked that the Army "was no place for social experiments."

Truman's reaction to the Army Chief of Staff, Hechler recalled, was blunt.

"Believe me, he was called onto the carpet - Harry Truman talked to him in good old Missouri english and Omar Bradley changed his position pretty quickly," he said.

With Gallup polls in 1948 finding that 82 percent of Americans disagreed with his civil rights program, President Truman faced an uphill battle integrating the military. Coming just 100 days before the national election, the order sparked a revolt amongst Southern Democrats led by Dixicrat Strom Thurmond. Hechler noted that during this time Truman penned a diary entry showing his resolve, writing "how far would Moses have gone if he had taken a poll in Egypt?"

Writer recalls Truman's risky order to integrate military - Field Notes - msnbc.com

This is no different.
 
Why do lefties like you always call names when you are losing the debate or when someone else has a different opinion then you on the issue..This Marine has forgot more about the military then you will ever know.......

I'm not losing anything. The man is a bigot and that is not name calling that is what he is. If you want a bigot running a branch of your military knock yourself out. Who else among the troops does this guy hate? Women, blacks, short people etc. He is a hateful bigot and has no business leading anyone anywhere.
 
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