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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

you drop DADT these situations are going to come up whether you like it or not.........Its called pushing the envelope............
__________________You can call anything a slippery slope..........

You are using the slippery slope argument, again. And it's a logical fallacy. A lame one too.

These situations will come up, and we can easily say no to them.
 
So a crossdresser can wear female clothes to work in your navy?

Where did I say that Navy? I said there was a dress code. Please do try and keep up, and please stop trying to make up stuff.
 
If you drop DADT these situations are going to come up whether you like it or not.........Its called pushing the envelope............

Fine then we can all just wait for them to come up after DADT is repealed, along with the rules that actually make homosexuality against the UCMJ. I, personally don't think it will really come up in the very near future. Most cross-dressers are okay with keeping their life private. And they aren't being discharged for cross-dressing in their private lives, or at least I couldn't find any incidence of a cross-dresser being discharged for just being a cross-dresser.
 
Oh great...so we're right back to, "teh gays will eye **** me because I'm so luscious they can't help themselves".

I swear...if you guys only knew how that, in and of itself, makes you so unattractive to start with. It also sounds really, really gay...

:laughat: I'm sorry, the way you worded your comment is kind of funny.

The fact is, gay people do not have some special ability over straight men and women to fight back any and all "eye ****." If I were showering with a bunch of women, surely a few of them would be attractive to me. More certainly would I then make a few rounds of eye ****.

Have you ever heard of quantum physics? One of the things about it are that at any given time, any and all possible scenarios can exist at the same time. For example, you put a cat in a box and close it. Then you ask yourself, is the cat dead? It could be. It could also be alive. If it were dead, you wouldn't know it and depending on how much you liked the cat -- at that given time -- there would be no reason to get all upset about a dead cat. Because the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.

Now, you open the box and look inside, and you see that indeed the cat is dead. If you liked the cat, all of a sudden you have reason to be upset. Because the cat is most certainly dead.

The same can be said of showering with straight and gay men; in one scenario the gay men are not public about their sexual preference, in the other scenario they are public. What the second scenario does is 'opens the box', per say, and everyone who sees what is inside the box is therefore affected in one way or another, if even very slightly.

Does that make more sense?
 
:laughat: I'm sorry, the way you worded your comment is kind of funny.

The fact is, gay people do not have some special ability over straight men and women to fight back any and all "eye ****." If I were showering with a bunch of women, surely a few of them would be attractive to me. More certainly would I then make a few rounds of eye ****.

Have you ever heard of quantum physics? One of the things about it are that at any given time, any and all possible scenarios can exist at the same time. For example, you put a cat in a box and close it. Then you ask yourself, is the cat dead? It could be. It could also be alive. If it were dead, you wouldn't know it and depending on how much you liked the cat -- at that given time -- there would be no reason to get all upset about a dead cat. Because the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.

Now, you open the box and look inside, and you see that indeed the cat is dead. If you liked the cat, all of a sudden you have reason to be upset. Because the cat is most certainly dead.

The same can be said of showering with straight and gay men; in one scenario the gay men are not public about their sexual preference, in the other scenario they are public. What the second scenario does is 'opens the box', per say, and everyone who sees what is inside the box is therefore affected in one way or another, if even very slightly.

Does that make more sense?

Yeah, when you don't know if anyone is gay, EVERYONE could be gay. So you can relax because you don't know if the guy naked next to you is gay or not. Whereas if you know who the gays are, you have to be scared.

I'm confused. There's supposed to be a cat in a box somewhere named Shrodinger.
 
:laughat: I'm sorry, the way you worded your comment is kind of funny.

It was meant to be. My humor is very sarcastic most of the time.

Does that make more sense?

I understand your point. I really do. I just think it's a bit inflated compared to the reality of the situation.
 
Now I feel strange every time I shower in the locker room, because you never know when a gay will be there. Don't ask, don't tell is the normal situation in everyday life, after all. Nobody goes around with a nametag that says "I'm gay." So now I'm creeped out. Thanks homophobes for making me always have to look over my shoulder. Eeeew! Homos!
 
:laughat: I'm sorry, the way you worded your comment is kind of funny.

The fact is, gay people do not have some special ability over straight men and women to fight back any and all "eye ****." If I were showering with a bunch of women, surely a few of them would be attractive to me. More certainly would I then make a few rounds of eye ****.

Have you ever heard of quantum physics? One of the things about it are that at any given time, any and all possible scenarios can exist at the same time. For example, you put a cat in a box and close it. Then you ask yourself, is the cat dead? It could be. It could also be alive. If it were dead, you wouldn't know it and depending on how much you liked the cat -- at that given time -- there would be no reason to get all upset about a dead cat. Because the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.

Now, you open the box and look inside, and you see that indeed the cat is dead. If you liked the cat, all of a sudden you have reason to be upset. Because the cat is most certainly dead.

The same can be said of showering with straight and gay men; in one scenario the gay men are not public about their sexual preference, in the other scenario they are public. What the second scenario does is 'opens the box', per say, and everyone who sees what is inside the box is therefore affected in one way or another, if even very slightly.

Does that make more sense?

Don't take this wrong, it's just a pet peave. Your description of Schrödinger's cat is highly inaccurate and is only a thought experiment. It does not actually apply to things larger than particles.
 
Now I feel strange every time I shower in the locker room, because you never know when a gay will be there. Don't ask, don't tell is the normal situation in everyday life, after all. Nobody goes around with a nametag that says "I'm gay." So now I'm creeped out. Thanks homophobes for making me always have to look over my shoulder. Eeeew! Homos!

Look at it the other way though. It could be "OOO! Lesbians".

And why is it whenever these discussions come up, it's all about men and not women?
 
Look at it the other way though. It could be "OOO! Lesbians".

And why is it whenever these discussions come up, it's all about men and not women?

Because two women together is kind of hot. :rock
 
Look at it the other way though. It could be "OOO! Lesbians".

Good point. Lesbians are awesome.

And why is it whenever these discussions come up, it's all about men and not women?

Lesbians are awesome.
 
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Gawd I hope this doesn't get me banned.

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Maybe this one will make up for it.
 
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Gawd I hope this doesn't get me banned.

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Maybe this one will make up for it.

Moderator's Warning:
Let's not continue this practice. It is considered trolling. While you were trying to be humorous, this type of thing is better suited to The Basement.
 
Gawd I hope this doesn't get me banned.


Maybe this one will make up for it.

I removed the pics for space and so IT does not yell at me.

The truth is generally somewhere in the middle...and do not even get me started on lipstick lesbians.
 
I removed the pics for space and so IT does not yell at me.

The truth is generally somewhere in the middle...and do not even get me started on lipstick lesbians.

LUGs are enthusiastic about it. I like that. :lol:
 
Don't take this wrong, it's just a pet peave. Your description of Schrödinger's cat is highly inaccurate and is only a thought experiment. It does not actually apply to things larger than particles.

I agree that it was highly inaccurate, but the entire point of the thought experiment was that it would have to apply to things larger than particles. Schrödinger thought the idea that particles existed as some sort of quantum wave function until observed was nonsense, and his famous thought experiment was an illustration of why.

Since the particle supposedly existed in a bunch of superimposed states, and the cat's life was dependent on the position of the particle, the cat would also have to exist in a bunch of superimposed states in order for the theory to be consistent.
 
Say what? That makes no sense, please explain what you are saying.

the same way everyone currently under charges (who has not yet gone to trial) is "alleged" rather than "guilty"; as far as the military is concerned, you are heterosexual unless you prove you are not, and then you are out.
 
the same way everyone currently under charges (who has not yet gone to trial) is "alleged" rather than "guilty"; as far as the military is concerned, you are heterosexual unless you prove you are not, and then you are out.

You really don't have to prove it under DADT all you have to do is say you are.......
 
You really don't have to prove it under DADT all you have to do is say you are.......

"Please, don't prove it, we believe you. Put your pants back on."
 
"Please, don't prove it, we believe you. Put your pants back on."

Another stupid post from you.......We all know your the class clown.......When are you going to bring something to the table for once?
 
Another stupid post from you.......We all know your the class clown.......When are you going to bring something to the table for once?


Perhaps you would like to lead by example for once?
 
Another stupid post from you.......We all know your the class clown.......When are you going to bring something to the table for once?

Jeez, settle down NavyDude. It was just a joke, and not one that took a side either. Just a commentary on what it would take to prove one was gay. Grow a sense of humor.
 
Perhaps you would like to lead by example for once?

And I just thank you on your post on socialists..........The guy attacks me personally I will do the same to him even he is one of your left wing buddies..........sorry.....
 

And I just thank you on your post on socialists..........The guy attacks me personally I will do the same to him even he is one of your left wing buddies..........sorry.....

Oh so now we're going to devolve into calling me a leftie now that we have a serious disagreement.

At least I will be in good company with all the others you spew that at.
 

And I just thank you on your post on socialists..........The guy attacks me personally I will do the same to him even he is one of your left wing buddies..........sorry.....

Um, it wasn't a personal attack. It had nothing to do with you. Sorry if you misread it - but you misread it.

And you continue to insist I'm leftwing without really knowing me.
 
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