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FBI investigating Perriello incident in Virginia

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CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - FBI investigating Perriello incident in Virginia - Blogs from CNN.com

Days after his address was posted online by a Virginia Tea Party activist, the FBI and local law enforcement officials are investigating a "suspicious incident" at the home of Rep. Tom Perriello's brother.

A line to the propane tank on his brother's gas grill had been "severed," an aide to the Democratic congressman told CNN.
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This is still under investigation and there has been no arrest made. However if this is true, it will be far worse than a rock being thrown through an office window in New York.

Politico reported Monday that a Tea Party activist in Lynchburg, angry over Perriello's vote in favor of health care reform legislation, had posted the address of Perriello's brother online and encouraged other activists to "stop by" and weigh in on the bill. The activist had apparently meant to post the congressman's home address but mistakenly published his brother's.
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This, I feel, pretty much speaks for itself. It is one thing to have a principled disagreement over legislation, but its quite another to attempt to kill someone over it. This is shameful and a sad day for our society.
 
megaprogman said:
This, I feel, pretty much speaks for itself. It is one thing to have a principled disagreement over legislation, but its quite another to attempt to kill someone over it. This is shameful and a sad day for our society.
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What are you talking about? That's how our country started. Not that I really endorse running around killing random people at this point. If you want to revolt, you have to make a harder stance than that. But I don't think revolution is quite yet justified. Hopefully people can get their emotions in check and start interacting in a positive manner to elicit change in the system.
 
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megaprogman said:
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - FBI investigating Perriello incident in Virginia - Blogs from CNN.com



This is still under investigation and there has been no arrest made. However if this is true, it will be far worse than a rock being thrown through an office window in New York.



This, I feel, pretty much speaks for itself. It is one thing to have a principled disagreement over legislation, but its quite another to attempt to kill someone over it. This is shameful and a sad day for our society.
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If indeed this incident turns out to be politically based vandalism, yes it is a sad day. Even if it was vandalism not meant to kill, it's a dangerous game someone is playing. What right have they to threaten, or intend to threaten a duly elected representative?

What in the heck is going on in this country?
 
The funny thing is that if the "activist" had a brain in his head, he could have easily discovered the Congressman's real address on his own. It's not exactly privileged information, you know.

Anyway, I hope they arrest the man. Just as I've proposed stiffer penalties for all the liberals who break laws at protests, especially in front of the RNC, so should guys like this have to break rocks if they act crazy. Democrats don't have a complete stranglehold on acting like politically-motivated d-bags.
 
Ikari said:
People are getting pissed off.
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Yeah, so??? That doesn't mean it's right,for either side when pissed, to threaten people.
 
Gina said:
Yeah, so??? That doesn't mean it's right,for either side when pissed, to threaten people.
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I didn't say it was. You asked what's happening to this country, not if what is happening is justifiable. And the answer is that people are getting pissed off. The government is inattentive to the needs and necessities of the common person and have acted against the People and for their pockets for a long time. The economic strife we currently live in exacerbates the situation even more. In the end, people get extremely pissed off at the government and its agents. It doesn't mean that anyone is particularly justified in their use of violence, but pissed off people tend to think emotionally rather than rationally. This type of stuff always happens when the government distances itself from the People for extended periods of time.
 
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Interesting. So this guy wasn't supposed to notice the gas hose was not hooked up when he went to turn on the grill? That's kinda dumb.

[insert blanket condemnation of violence here]
 
Gipper said:
The funny thing is that if the "activist" had a brain in his head, he could have easily discovered the Congressman's real address on his own. It's not exactly privileged information, you know. …
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Coronado said:
Interesting. So this guy wasn't supposed to notice the gas hose was not hooked up when he went to turn on the grill? That's kinda dumb.

[insert blanket condemnation of violence here]
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It's the gang that couldn't shoot straight … they got the wrong Perriello.

[It's a shame you couldn't offer your own blanket condemnation of violence Coronado.]

And, maybe there's another more important observation than merely that these people appear to be utterly foolish in their misdeeds. And that is, when one attempts to victimize political opponents: the act itself reflects not on the character and politics of the target but rather that of the aggressor.

These recent acts bring discredit and disfavor to the opponents of health care reform; whatever merits their arguments may have had, they are brushed aside by the horror and dismay people feel towards these arbitrary acts of violence.
 
Chappy said:
And, maybe there's another more important observation than merely that these people appear to be utterly foolish in their misdeeds. And that is, when one attempts to victimize political opponents: the act itself reflects not on the character and politics of the target but rather that of the aggressor.
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That in general relies entirely on which side wins.
 
Ikari said:
That in general relies entirely on which side wins.
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Yup......... look how well it worked out for the British a few years ago.
 
Chappy said:
And, maybe there's another more important observation than merely that these people appear to be utterly foolish in their misdeeds. And that is, when one attempts to victimize political opponents: the act itself reflects not on the character and politics of the target but rather that of the aggressor.

These recent acts bring discredit and disfavor to the opponents of health care reform; whatever merits their arguments may have had, they are brushed aside by the horror and dismay people feel towards these arbitrary acts of violence.
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It's pretty ****ing disgusting that you're using an incident like this to try to discredit a political opinion. It could have been Boehner and Bush who cut that pipe, and that wouldn't mean a goddamn thing about whether someone else who opposes the health care bill is justified in doing so. Not everything needs to be for political gain.
 
Chappy said:
[It's a shame you couldn't offer your own blanket condemnation of violence Coronado.]
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No, the shame is that you think it would actually matter. I have no more control over what these people do than you.
Chappy said:
And, maybe there's another more important observation than merely that these people appear to be utterly foolish in their misdeeds. And that is, when one attempts to victimize political opponents: the act itself reflects not on the character and politics of the target but rather that of the aggressor.
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Pretty much the only observation this thread warrants is that mindless partisan clowns will say just about anything to attack their opponents.
Chappy said:
These recent acts bring discredit and disfavor to the opponents of health care reform; whatever merits their arguments may have had, they are brushed aside by the horror and dismay people feel towards these arbitrary acts of violence.
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In that case, this nullifies any pro-Obama argument you could ever make.

:rofl
 
Coronado said:
No, the shame is that you think it would actually matter. I have no more control over what these people do than you.Pretty much the only observation this thread warrants is that mindless partisan clowns will say just about anything to attack their opponents.In that case, this nullifies any pro-Obama argument you could ever make.

:rofl
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So, there's no need for you to condemn political violence because your opinion doesn't matter. Got it. :rolleyes:

Your linking to a picture of Ashley Todd's bruised and scarred face isn't helping your argument. See: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax]Ashley Todd mugging hoax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


Rather it reminds people, that there have been attempts to smear a political movement and undermine their credibility by implying that members of the movement do bad things. Why would someone do that if, in fact, there's no consequence for such bad publicity? They do, of course, precisely because it can be profoundly hurtful to a political movement or cause and that's because the actions and tactics of the proponents are very much associated by the public to the virtue and credibility of the underlying cause.

Or, are you suggesting that supporters of health care reform cut the gas lines to the wrong person's house to somehow smear the health care reform opposition? There's an interesting conspiracy theory. It certainly makes the opposition look foolish if not outright dumb. However, I have to conclude that this conspiracy theory serves no purpose; much of the opposition already looked foolish if not outright dumb.
 
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Chappy said:
So, there's no need for you to condemn political violence because your opinion doesn't matter. Got it. :rolleyes:

Your linking to a picture of Ashley Todd's bruised and scarred face isn't helping your argument. See: Ashley Todd mugging hoax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Rather it reminds people, that there have been attempts to smear a political movement and undermine their credibility by implying that members of the movement do bad things. Why would someone do that if, in fact, there's no consequence for such bad publicity? They do, of course, precisely because it can be profoundly hurtful to a political movement or cause and that's because the actions and tactics of the proponents are very much associated by the public to the virtue and credibility of the underlying cause.

Or, are you suggesting that supporters of health care reform cut the gas lines to the wrong person's house to somehow smear the health care reform opposition? There's an interesting conspiracy theory. It certainly makes the opposition look foolish if not outright dumb. However, I have to conclude that this conspiracy theory serves no purpose; much of the opposition already looked foolish if not outright dumb.
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Are you being intentionally obtuse, or do you really believe the bull**** you're posting?

Anyway, I'm done with serious replies to you. I have a low tolerance for party drones.
 
Wow, those were serious replies?
 
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Chappy said:
Wow, those were serious replies?
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Yeah, had a little neural action going on there. You should give it a try sometime.
 
FBI investigating severed gas line at Rep. Tom Perriello's brother home

FBI investigating severed gas line at Rep. Tom Perriello's brother home

After Tea Party activists posted the supposed address of Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-VA) home, a gas line was cut at his brother's property. The activists posted the wrong address in Virginia on the internet.

The FBI and local authorities are investigating the incident. Threats and acts of violence have escalated after President Barack Obama signed the Health Care Reform bill into law. Some Tea Party Activists have been calling for acts of violence against members of Congress and the Democratic headquarters throughout the states.
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So, dumb**** teabagger... um, sorry, Tea Party Activist posts the home address of a congressman on his blog (he thinks).... But it's the wrong address. It's that of Perriello's brother.

Then this criminal 'mastermind' scumbag, Tea Party member Mike Troxel, encourages people to drop by for a “good face-to-face chat”.

Nice.

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The post does not have a byline but was published on a blog run by an organizer for the Lynchburg Tea Party, a member of the group confirmed to POLITICO. There is no contact information on the blog, but POLITICO has been able to trace the blog to Mike Troxel, an organizer for the Lynchburg Tea Party who has been active in the organization since it launched last year.

Read more: Tea partiers told to 'drop by' Tom Perriello's home - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com
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Time to tone it down people.
 
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I agree. Although I personally hate (and I mean hate) the health care bill, violence should not be partook in, in any circumstance.
 
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This is what happens when a bunch of idiots really thinks that the kenyan president wants to kill his grandma with death panels and mandating that everyone pays for and gets mandatory abortions.
 
Re: FBI investigating severed gas line at Rep. Tom Perriello's brother home

If 1000 citizens are very, very angry about something, out of those maybe 1 will be very mentally unbalanced. Out of 1000 mentally unbalanced citizens angry about something, maybe one will do something crazy.

A lot of people are angry and frustrated with the actions of the President and Democratic Congress. This is a reality. Out of those, there will be a lunatic fringe, there always is.
 
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gtown25nick said:
I agree. Although I personally hate (and I mean hate) the health care bill, violence should not be partook in, in any circumstance.
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While most of the time what I bolded is admirable, and these incidences as well do not qualify at this time; sometimes violence is necessary. This country was founded on violence because words stopped working, the IRS if we really look at it is more onerous than the king's tax collectors, they have more power, and we have more taxes.

The King's tax collectors were tarred and feathered, IRS agents can stop you to ask you questions anytime without a warrant, yet we let them live(No one should see this point as anything other than a comparison). As well, if someone has desires on endangering your life or even taking it with physical violence, then words will not stop them from their ultimate desired action, so to not engage in violence will cost you your life(your choice of course, if you value your morality more than your life, by all means be my guest). My overall point, sometimes violence is in fact warranted, never desired, and not appropriate yet.
 
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No reasonable person condones the actions of these people... they are NUTS!

As well no reasonable person would paint the entire movement with that same brush...

No REASONABLE person that is...

BUT OOOOOH.... Watch the marxist-progressives do EXACTLY THAT!

JUST like you see them doing in this thread!..

I hope they are not making the mistake of thinking their B#lllSH!T is working...:rofl
 
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hazlnut said:
FBI investigating severed gas line at Rep. Tom Perriello's brother home



So, dumb**** teabagger... um, sorry, Tea Party Activist posts the home address of a congressman on his blog (he thinks).... But it's the wrong address. It's that of Perriello's brother.

Then this criminal 'mastermind' scumbag, Tea Party member Mike Troxel, encourages people to drop by for a “good face-to-face chat”.

Nice.

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Time to tone it down people.
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Yeah, it's just the right fringe that does **** like this.
A Republican aide also pointed out that over the years Republican members of Congress received their fair share of death threats during volatile times. Newt Gingrich after the 1994 Republican revolution and the late Henry Hyde during the Clinton impeachment in 1998 both received numerous death threats. And just last month, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) received death threats after his filibuster of unemployment benefits, according to a report in Roll Call.

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Your partisan hackery is really wearing thin. Why don't you go see what Media Matters wants you to be outraged about today. If you were at all honest, you'd be asking why these other incidents didn't receive the same amount of publicity as the current incidents by whackos, about which you seem so upset.
 
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Moon said:
Yeah, it's just the right fringe that does **** like this.


Your partisan hackery is really wearing thin. Why don't you go see what Media Matters wants you to be outraged about today.
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Your attempt to change the subject is weak and pathetic as always...

Why don't you deal with the issue and instead of saying (like a little child): "Well, they did it first."

Well, little boy, two wrongs don't make a right.:spank::spank:

If you were at all honest, you'd be asking why these other incidents didn't receive the same amount of publicity as the current incidents by whackos, about which you seem so upset.
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That argument makes no sense and is in complete denial of reality.

The Health Care bill is an unprecedented piece of legislation...

The threats and growing violence towards members of congress is unprecedented...(in modern times)

Look that word up: Unprecedented.
 
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