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Texas plans to sue over health care bill

When you state starts acting...sane... we'll stop "messing" with you.
Some of us are even too chicken to post our state.
 
Get enough States together and they can change the Constitution (Amendment) to outlaw Federal Mandated Health Insurance.



The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Oops.......... 38 states are already changing their laws to make this POS illegal.



Ten US states to file suit against health care reform - Yahoo! News

So lets do the Math!!!!!!!!

2/3rd's of 50 States looks to me to be 33 and a third States....... that's less than 38!

3/4's of 50 States looks like 37 and a half States...... that's also less than 38 States.

Any one here still think the States will be defeated in their bid to out law this POS?

Not all of those 38 will pass legislation. Most of those 38 agree with the Health Care Overhaul, and most are democratically controlled. Just because one random republican put legislation forward does not mean it will pass.

I doubt the amendment would even have 20 states supporting it, much less 34 (they round up in matters like this).
 
The lawyers will make a lotta money. The Texan's will get screwed.
 
We, Texas, do not have the right to secede.

Your definition of "right" differs GREATLY from mine...

Government DOES NOT "issue" rights.. those come God, the Universal Oneness, or simply from being born.. "Natural Law" in the Federalist Papers.

You make a grievous error when you start to believe government issues "Rights". they simply make laws.... Government issuing Rights is a deep seated error of liberal logic, which unfortunately most of us were taught in government-run schools.
 
Your definition of "right" differs GREATLY from mine...

Government DOES NOT "issue" rights.. those come God, the Universal Oneness, or simply from being born.. "Natural Law" in the Federalist Papers.

You make a grievous error when you start to believe government issues "Rights". they simply make laws.... Government issuing Rights is a deep seated error of liberal logic, which unfortunately most of us were taught in government-run schools.


Wow okay so it is some kind of ephemeral metaphysical thing wether or not Texas has the right to secede from the USA instead of what agreed upon and written.
 
No sir it is a simple working understanding of the Constitution, gleaned from the writings of those who signed it!

Many different people signed the Constitution in the 18th century with many different opinions amongst them.
 
Wow okay so it is some kind of ephemeral metaphysical thing wether or not Texas has the right to secede from the USA instead of what agreed upon and written.

If Texas decides to succeed, they will de facto have that right if they are successful, and given the size, population, industrial base, percentage of armed citizens, and number of military bases in Texas...... well, you figure it out.
 
Many different people signed the Constitution in the 18th century with many different opinions amongst them.

The news paper articles which now comprise the Federalist Papers was what they used to sell the Constitution to the states... and yes progressives (Statists) have not been satisfied with the enumerated powers since before ratification, but do you REALLY think it would have been ratified if they knew what Hamilton had in mind... simply put HELL NO!
 
1. texas is one of the most conservative states in the union
2. texas has a constant inflow of people seeking to escape the leftwing destruction of places like california; if they wanted to set up a state system to replace medicare and/or medicaid, they have a proper pyramid shaped demographic to do it with. a Texan medicaid program could refuse payment to illegal aliens, saving them not a little bit of money.
3. if this pushback results in the Supreme Court discovering an amendment between #9 and #11; the consequences could be very far reaching indeed.
You sure know a lot about Texas for a guy from NC. Perhaps you lived here before? Maybe even before we were up to our necks in red ink.

Perry is going to chest beat until he (possibly) wins the governor election.

Remember recently when he was going to have us secede before accepting any of the bailout money? There was a big article in Monday's Dallas Morning News about how all of these departments were trying to figure out how they are going to spend the funds they just received from the FED.

Why would the insurance stance be any different?
 
Liberty and freedom from oppression are damnwell reason enough to fight!

You go TEXAS!
Put down your pitchfork Bill. We're going to have national HC just like all the rest of the states. In fact, all the FED has to do is refuse to give us highway funds. That's how we got:

1 Seatbelt law
2 Mandatory auto insurance
3 .08 BAC
4 open container law

2 years w/o highway funds and we'll need mules to get around.
 
3 .08 BAC
4 open container law

2 years w/o highway funds and we'll need mules to get around.

Ahhh I remember the days when ya could drive around with a beer:3oops:
 
Greg Abbott is piddling in the wind.
 
We're going to have national HC just like all the rest of the states..

Therein lay the rub.... it IS not be like the other states.. This state exempt, that state starts later, this state gets this and the other not. Just one of the unconstitutional provisions... need I quote Section and Article?
 
Therein lay the rub.... it IS not be like the other states.. This state exempt, that state starts later, this state gets this and the other not. Just one of the unconstitutional provisions... need I quote Section and Article?
There will be some variables, especially in the first few years.

Please point me to the Section that gives any state the right to be exempt. This I have not seen, nor heard of.
 
Oops.......... 38 states are already changing their laws to make this POS illegal.

Source?

I don't see much in the way of support for this claim. Many states, perhaps as many as 38 had introduced legislation which would have challenged the health care reform, but many of those proposals have already failed or have been restricted to committee. It's also very unlikely that California is going to pass anything that would challenge the reform even though it appears to be counted among the 38.

Idaho and Virgina have passed state laws and Arizona has passed a law which will put the question on the ballot in November to amend the state constitution, and Missouri is half way there, Utah may or may not comply, but that is the extent to which states are changing their laws to challenge the federal health care reform. 3 and 1/2 states is not 38, no matter how much you want to sensationalize it. Now when 30 or so states have changed their laws to challenge health care reform, you might have something to talk about, but just because Republican lawmakers in 38 states have introduced legislation to challenge it does not mean the state has or will change its law.

States Challenge Health Care Reform | PBS NewsHour | PBS

You gotta love the way that FOX news has been spinning this information though.
 
Therein lay the rub.... it IS not be like the other states.. This state exempt, that state starts later, this state gets this and the other not. Just one of the unconstitutional provisions... need I quote Section and Article?

Yes, please do so.
 
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