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Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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Physician Survey: Health Reform?s Potential Impact on Physician Supply and Quality of Medical Care

Key Findings from The Medicus Firm Survey

Physician Support of Health Reform in General
• 62.7% of physicians feel that health reform is needed but should be implemented in a more targeted, gradual way, as opposed to the sweeping overhaul that is in legislation.
• 28.7% of physicians are in favor of a public option.
• 3.6% of physicians prefer the “status quo” and feel that the U.S. health care system is best “as is.

Health Reform and Primary Care Physicians
• 46.3% of primary care physicians (family medicine and internal medicine) feel that the passing of health reform will either force them out of medicine or make them want to leave medicine.

Health Reform, Public Option, and Practice Revenue/Physician Income
• 41% of physicians feel that income and practice revenue will “decline or worsen dramatically” with a public option.
• 30% feel income will “decline or worsen somewhat” with a public option.
• 9% feel income will “improve somewhat” with a public option, and 0.8% feel income will “improve dramatically” with a public option.

Health Reform, Public Option, and Physician Supply
• 72% of physicians feel that a public option would have a negative impact on physician supply, with 45% feeling it will “decline or worsen dramatically” and 27% predicting it will “decline or worsen somewhat.
• 24% of physicians think they will try to retire early if a public option is implemented.
• 21% of physicians would try to leave medicine if a public option is implemented, even if not near retirement age at the time.

Health Reform and Recommending Medicine to Others as a Career
• 36% of physicians would not recommend medicine as a career, regardless of health reform.
• 27% would recommend medicine as a career but not if health reform passes.
• 25% of physicians would recommend medicine as a career regardless of health reform.
• 12% would not recommend medicine as a career now but feel that they would recommend it as a career if health reform passes

This deserves to be in Breaking News in my opinion because it is obviously topical, the results are startling, and the New England Journal of Medicine isn't exactly a politically-charged blog site. There are many references to this article today, but I thought it best to post the survey itself.

Will your personal doctor give up his/her practice if Obamacare passes?

Obama is sickening. He pulls a bunch of white coats up on stage as if the medical community is completely "behind him" on this. Obviously, they are not.

America, this is what the radical left looks like. Like much?
 
Idle threats from all but the ones who should have retired already or fleeced the public enough to be able to afford to retire.....;)
 
Idle threats from all but the ones who should have retired already or fleeced the public enough to be able to afford to retire.....;)

Yeah, let's beat up doctors for what they make, make it harder for them to collect fees due from the goverment (Medicare is a nightmare for them), then hope they'll work extra hard in med school and be even more caring when we're facing colon cancer.
 
HA! And most doctors say they are their because they enjoy to help people:rofl
 
Idle threats from all but the ones who should have retired already or fleeced the public enough to be able to afford to retire.....;)


Indeed. In any case, the vast majority of what they do is referrals, anyway, and nurses can do 95% of what 'primary care' general practitioners do in their offices, anyway.

Health Reform and Primary Care Physicians
• 46.3% of primary care physicians (family medicine and internal medicine) feel that the passing of health reform will either force them out of medicine or make them want to leave medicine.

Yeah right. And where are they going to go?
 
Yeah, let's beat up doctors for what they make, make it harder for them to collect fees due from the goverment (Medicare is a nightmare for them), then hope they'll work extra hard in med school and be even more caring when we're facing colon cancer.

Well one of the major problems is the American Doctors Association/American Medical Association(I don't know which one it is) that makes sure not enough students get into med-school. That way their will always be a shortage of Doctors and that way the Docs that do get in would be most unwilling to go out of their way to help people because their really isn't much of a competition from other docs. And then add the shortage of specialists. Well you get my drift?
 
Yeah, let's beat up doctors for what they make, make it harder for them to collect fees due from the goverment (Medicare is a nightmare for them),

It's only a 'nightmare' for those who cheat and screw over Medicare, so who cares? MD's didn't used to get rich until Medicare came along, and now that it's finally cracking down, the so-called 'conservatives' are sniveling and crying about it. Typical cognitive dissonance, on the part of The People Who Brought You George W. Bush And His Record Deficits'.
 
It's only a 'nightmare' for those who cheat and screw over Medicare, so who cares? MD's didn't used to get rich until Medicare came along, and now that it's finally cracking down, the so-called 'conservatives' are sniveling and crying about it. Typical cognitive dissonance, on the part of The People Who Brought You George W. Bush And His Record Deficits'.

Pathetic. LOL
 
Well one of the major problems is the American Doctors Association/American Medical Association(I don't know which one it is) that makes sure not enough students get into med-school. That way their will always be a shortage of Doctors and that way the Docs that do get in would be most unwilling to go out of their way to help people because their really isn't much of a competition from other docs. And then add the shortage of specialists. Well you get my drift?

Yes, and they also drag their feet on jerking the licenses of the 5% of the hack physicians who are responsible for most of the malpractice suits won, too.
 
Yeah right. And where are they going to go?

Yeah, that's the attitude we want doctors to have.

Dude, why do you have doctors so much? Get kicked out of med school or something?
 
We shouldn't cut doctors salaries, if anything we should raise them. I am a pre med student and I am on becoming a doctor or pharmacist. Medical school costs $150k (and that's a low estimate) and you have to pay for malpractice insurance. You go to school for 8 years (maybe more) and your job requires you to be on call. We have a shortage of doctors as it is, we don't need to increase that by cutting wages and damaging the healthcare system.
 
Yes, you are; I agree.

I could post that Post Toasties are better than Lucky Charms, and you'd figure out a way to blame Bush for the carbohydrate content in both as they relate to the War in Iraq.

THAT is what is pathetic. And it makes anything you say thereafter utterly meaningless and irrelevant.
 
Sad since the medical profession (doctors, nurses, etc) has been facing shortages for years. This will only make it worse, my mother who is a doctor (pediatrician) told me yesterday that none of the doctors in the Hospital are happy about this bill.
 
We shouldn't cut doctors salaries, if anything we should raise them. I am a pre med student and I am on becoming a doctor or pharmacist. Medical school costs $150k (and that's a low estimate) and you have to pay for malpractice insurance. You go to school for 8 years (maybe more) and your job requires you to be on call. We have a shortage of doctors as it is, we don't need to increase that by cutting wages and damaging the healthcare system.

You are 19 and you are a pre-med student. Are you aware how many pre-med students there are? Seriously, kid. You might not even be accepted into med school yet you are calling yourself a "pre-med" student. My best advice is to study something that you like without the plan on becoming a doctor.
Because the chances of you becoming a doctor even with a good GPA are not likely. I have known many associates who studied pre-med and didn't get in, and they were smart too. Perfect GPA, good score on their exams. Still nothing. Of the 13 I know. Four of them got into med school, if you want more advice, I suggesst you study biology & chemistry as a double major. And get a good GPA. Remember the Medical Association of America/American Doctor Association do not want for too many people to study medicine. It's a racket really.
But you won't believe me anyways.
 
HA! And most doctors say they are their because they enjoy to help people:rofl

And that's incompatible with this how? If you took a job because among other things it allowed you to help people, you're telling me that no matter what happened to that job, you wouldn't care? Nothing would make you consider leaving?

It's only a 'nightmare' for those who cheat and screw over Medicare, so who cares? MD's didn't used to get rich until Medicare came along, and now that it's finally cracking down, the so-called 'conservatives' are sniveling and crying about it.

Let me get this straight - your argument is that doctors didn't use to get rich back when all of their patients came from private insurance, but now are getting rich thanks to an infusion of barely (if at all) profitable clients?

Interesting theory. Care to explain the many, many doctors who refuse to take Medicare/aid at all? Under your theory they should be dead broke, yet in reality, they're the richest of all.
 
HA! And most doctors say they are their because they enjoy to help people:rofl
you're just mad because as goes doctors, there goes your "right" to healthcare.

How about them apples? :doh
 
We shouldn't cut doctors salaries, if anything we should raise them. I am a pre med student and I am on becoming a doctor or pharmacist. Medical school costs $150k (and that's a low estimate) and you have to pay for malpractice insurance. You go to school for 8 years (maybe more) and your job requires you to be on call. We have a shortage of doctors as it is, we don't need to increase that by cutting wages and damaging the healthcare system.

I don't think we should raise doctor salaries. Instead, I think we should make all education for medical practitioners paid for by the public and medical students and doctors have to work in public hospitals for a number of years. That way, they don't have to go so deep into debt to practice medicine.
 
I don't think we should raise doctor salaries. Instead, I think we should make all education for medical practitioners paid for by the public and medical students and doctors have to work in public hospitals for a number of years. That way, they don't have to go so deep into debt to practice medicine.

So you would make doctors wait until around 40 before they can finally start earning a real salary?

As it stands, doctors already essentially do this, working for $50k/year during their residency when their services would be worth far more on the open market.

Making it an option is one thing, making it mandatory is quite another.
 
So you would make doctors wait until around 40 before they can finally start earning a real salary?

As it stands, doctors already essentially do this, working for $50k/year during their residency when their services would be worth far more on the open market.

Making it an option is one thing, making it mandatory is quite another.

So you are against the mandatory health care bill proposed by the Democrats?.......:confused:
 
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you're just mad because as goes doctors, there goes your "right" to healthcare.

How about them apples? :doh
I don't have a right to healthcare I already have it.
What are the doctors going to do about it? We already have one of the worse doc to patient ratio in the industrialized world. And it has nothing to do because we "have 300 million people and medical attention varies because we are a diverse nation, blah blah blah." It has to do with the racket that made sure that more than half of all potential medical students were rejected. We could have had a similar ratio of doc to patient to that in Germany.
 
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What will they do? Wait tables? Talk is cheap. Back to work bitches.
 
So you are against the mandatory health care bill proposed by the Democrats?.......:confused:

And this is news to you?

What are the doctors going to do about it? We already have one of the worse doc to patient ratio in the industrialized world. And it has nothing to do because we "have 300 million people and medical attention varies because we are a diverse nation, blah blah blah." It has to do with the racket that made sure that more than half of all potential medical students were rejected. We could have had a similar ratio of doc to patient to that in Germany.

If you actually look closer at your picture, you'll see that we're nowhere near the worst. We have a better doctor/patient ration than Canada, Australia, the UK, Brazil, Poland, Japan, and some other eastern European countries that I can't make out. That also ignores the question of medical standards, which are presumably higher here than elsewhere.

(Though you're absolutely right that the AMA has a racket going on.)
 
What will they do? Wait tables? Talk is cheap. Back to work bitches.

If they're old enough, retire.
If not, stop taking Medicare/aid.

But hey, I'm sure that an influx of Medicare/aid patients combined with a decrease in doctors willing to take them will work wonders for health outcomes and overall costs. Let's just blind ourselves to the possible risks and push onwards with the plan!
 
Sad since the medical profession (doctors, nurses, etc) has been facing shortages for years. This will only make it worse, my mother who is a doctor (pediatrician) told me yesterday that none of the doctors in the Hospital are happy about this bill.

My father is a doctor too and no one he works with his happy with the bill, but none of them are threatening to leave because of it. They know people will need their help, so they say they will just deal with it.
 
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