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What has Obama done to promote the private sector job creation? I know how badly you want to give Obama credit for anything but it just isn't meant to be. This country wasn't built on economy Obama is promoting but was built on the one Reagan promoted.

All that hatred of Reagan is misguided and unfounded, normally by people who don't like free enterprise and capitalism thus promote socialism and even worse, Marxism.

You are out of your league here and whine about that which you do not even understand.

Tax breaks and spending. Kinda like Reagan. And kinda like Reagan, the result so far is high debt.
 
What you have pointed out are predictions and projections, none of which are close to happening.

This so called start costs over a trillion dollars. you don't have a clue as to how much a trillion dollars is and thus you call it a good start. it wasn't too long ago that the entire budget of the United States was a trillion dollars.

You want so badly to believe what you are told that you ignore history and the lies politicians tell you.

No, I have also factually pointed out the problem and how legislation might help. The first part was factual, and the second a projection based on reasonable logic.
 
Tax breaks and spending. Kinda like Reagan. And kinda like Reagan, the result so far is high debt.

LOL, where do you get your information? You buy what you are being told when the reality is any tax cut for private business was offset by increasing healthcare costs as well as no change in the withholding tables thus was paid back by private industry.

Obama: 'We cut taxes'- What? Is he serious? - Water Cooler - Washington Times

As for the deficits, Reagan with the help of Congress added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years. Obama with the help of Congress added more debt in two years than Reagan did in 8 and will double the Reagan debt in less than 2 years.

Stop being a tool and ignoring reality.
 
Interestingly enough, Reagan's policy was to lower taxes while increasing spending, much like that other guy, you know, the one you're calling an "empty suit."

Obama and Reagan are a lot alike in many ways. Deficit spending is one.

This is true. Neither will likely be as bad or as good as the different sides see them, but they are a lot a like.
 
This is true. Neither will likely be as bad or as good as the different sides see them, but they are a lot a like.

You haven't a clue. Reagan believed in the American people and the greatness of this country. Obama is too busy apologizing for this country's greatness and instead believes in his own greatness.

Obama is the most arrogant individual ever to hold the office and has done nothing for the private sector. Reagan's entire economic policy was focused on individual wealth creation and not expansion in the size and control of the govt.

You are totally out of your league here and simply ignore actual history.
 
LOL, where do you get your information? You buy what you are being told when the reality is any tax cut for private business was offset by increasing healthcare costs as well as no change in the withholding tables thus was paid back by private industry.

Obama: 'We cut taxes'- What? Is he serious? - Water Cooler - Washington Times

As for the deficits, Reagan with the help of Congress added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years. Obama with the help of Congress added more debt in two years than Reagan did in 8 and will double the Reagan debt in less than 2 years.

Stop being a tool and ignoring reality.

LOL, where do you get your information, blogs? Oh wait, it is a blog...

PolitiFact | Tax cut for 95 percent? The stimulus made it so

Would you like me to continue?
 
You haven't a clue. Reagan believed in the American people and the greatness of this country. Obama is too busy apologizing for this country's greatness and instead believes in his own greatness.

Obama is the most arrogant individual ever to hold the office and has done nothing for the private sector. Reagan's entire economic policy was focused on individual wealth creation and not expansion in the size and control of the govt.

You are totally out of your league here and simply ignore actual history.

I'm sorry, but that's just your biased spin. Look a little more objectively and you will see some similarities.
 
I'm sorry, but that's just your biased spin. Look a little more objectively and you will see some similarities.

I lived and worked during the Reagan years. Why don't you point out the similarities to me since I am blinded by reality?
 
LOL, where do you get your information, blogs? Oh wait, it is a blog...

PolitiFact | Tax cut for 95 percent? The stimulus made it so

Would you like me to continue?

That was posted in the Washington Times.

As for tax cuts, how do you cut taxes for people that don't pay taxes? Oh, you don't, you give them a welfare check on the backs of the taxpayers?

How is that hope and change working out for you, over 15 million unemployed Americans and 1.2 million more discouraged, BLS.gov

You wanto so badly to believe what Obama tells you but all Obama is doing is making you look foolish. Too bad you haven't any economic knowledge at all.
 
That was posted in the Washington Times.

As for tax cuts, how do you cut taxes for people that don't pay taxes? Oh, you don't, you give them a welfare check on the backs of the taxpayers?

How is that hope and change working out for you, over 15 million unemployed Americans and 1.2 million more discouraged, BLS.gov

You wanto so badly to believe what Obama tells you but all Obama is doing is making you look foolish. Too bad you haven't any economic knowledge at all.

Yes, and it was still a blog. Read the URL.

I am not buying all that Obama is selling, nor am I dismissing it out of hand. It's too early to judge. What I am doing is laughing at your claims that Reagan's unemployment problems was Carter's fault, while Obama's is Obama's fault, despite the massive similarities in circumstances.
 
I lived and worked during the Reagan years. Why don't you point out the similarities to me since I am blinded by reality?

So did I. And the similarities are real. Obama is a little more educated, but both good orators, and both engaged in deficit spending.
 
Yes, and it was still a blog. Read the URL.

I am not buying all that Obama is selling, nor am I dismissing it out of hand. It's too early to judge. What I am doing is laughing at your claims that Reagan's unemployment problems was Carter's fault, while Obama's is Obama's fault, despite the massive similarities in circumstances.

Were you around and working during the Carter years? Reagan didn't create and unemployment problem, Carter's economic policy did. Reagan solved it. Suggest you check out the economic conditions during the last few years of Carter. You can try and re-write history, you can run from history, but you cannot ignore actual history.

I lived and worked during both the Carter and Reagan years. The contrast was staggering as were the results.

It seems that every time things get tough for Obama his supporters divert back to Reagan. That is a losing argument and makes Obama supporters look foolish.
 
Were you around and working during the Carter years? Reagan didn't create and unemployment problem, Carter's economic policy did. Reagan solved it. Suggest you check out the economic conditions during the last few years of Carter. You can try and re-write history, you can run from history, but you cannot ignore actual history.

I lived and worked during both the Carter and Reagan years. The contrast was staggering as were the results.

It seems that every time things get tough for Obama his supporters divert back to Reagan. That is a losing argument and makes Obama supporters look foolish.

Yes, I was around for Carter and Reagan, not to mention Ford and Nixon and Johnson.

I never claimed Reagan created the unemployment problem. Nor did Obama create the unemployment problem. They both came into office during economic bad times, they both cut taxes and increased spending. They both ballooned the deficit. All those things are true. So now why is it Reagan was not responsible for unemployment, but Obama is?
 
Yes, I was around for Carter and Reagan, not to mention Ford and Nixon and Johnson.

I never claimed Reagan created the unemployment problem. Nor did Obama create the unemployment problem. They both came into office during economic bad times, they both cut taxes and increased spending. They both ballooned the deficit. All those things are true. So now why is it Reagan was not responsible for unemployment, but Obama is?

First of all, on one said Obama created the unemployment problem, it is his proposed solution that hasn't done any good. Unemployment was dropping this time during the Reagan Administration AFTER his tax cuts went into effect. Obama proposed the largest stimulus plan in U.S. history and it made unemployment worse. That is a fact. So anyone that claims Reagan and Obama were similar simply is out of touch with reality and has zero credibility

It was the REAGAN Across the Board tax cut that led to the economic boom on the 80's. Obama did no such thing and you know it

I just don't get it, what is it about people keeping more of their own money that irritates people like you? Who do tax cuts empower, govt. or the individual? Compare that to what Obama did and tell me where the empowerment is for the American people?

You want to claim that Obama cut taxes for 95% of the American people? Where are the results? Reagan had results with the first 10% tax cut of his 10-10-5% across the board tax cuts. Obama rebates did zero good because once a rebate is spent it is gone. Tax rate cuts are ongoing.
 
We were further into the cycle when Reagan took office.
 
We were further into the cycle when Reagan took office.

No one in their right mind can say that Reagan and Obama addressed the crisis in the same manner. I asked you a question and you have ignored it so far. Let's try again, who do tax cuts empower, individuals or the govt?

Who did the Obama rebate checks empower and what were the results of those tax cuts?

There is a stark difference between Reagan and Obama, Reagan believed in the greatness of this country and its people whereas Obama seems to believe in his own greatness and the American govt. I cannot believe people lik you cannot see that stark difference.
 
No one in their right mind can say that Reagan and Obama addressed the crisis in the same manner. I asked you a question and you have ignored it so far. Let's try again, who do tax cuts empower, individuals or the govt?

Who did the Obama rebate checks empower and what were the results of those tax cuts?

There is a stark difference between Reagan and Obama, Reagan believed in the greatness of this country and its people whereas Obama seems to believe in his own greatness and the American govt. I cannot believe people lik you cannot see that stark difference.

The word spin is popping into mind. Cannot imagine why...

Reagan cut taxes. Obama cut taxes(hint, in many more ways that you mention). Reagan upped spending. Obama upped spending. Reagan is the savior. Obama is the antichrist.

That whole spin that is your last paragraph is hilarious if unprovable at best.
 
The word spin is popping into mind. Cannot imagine why...

Reagan cut taxes. Obama cut taxes(hint, in many more ways that you mention). Reagan upped spending. Obama upped spending. Reagan is the savior. Obama is the antichrist.

That whole spin that is your last paragraph is hilarious if unprovable at best.

It is how both did it, Reagan empowered people whereas Obama empowered govt. What did you do with your Reagan Tax cut compared to what you did with your Obama tax cuts. I paid more in taxes this year than I did with Reagan. If I got a similar tax cut from Obama shouldn't I have paid less?

Reagan tax cuts grew govt. revenue, Obama tax cuts didn't have the same effects thus cut govt. revenue. Continuing to compare the two is disengenuous.
 
It is how both did it, Reagan empowered people whereas Obama empowered govt. What did you do with your Reagan Tax cut compared to what you did with your Obama tax cuts. I paid more in taxes this year than I did with Reagan. If I got a similar tax cut from Obama shouldn't I have paid less?

Reagan tax cuts grew govt. revenue, Obama tax cuts didn't have the same effects thus cut govt. revenue. Continuing to compare the two is disengenuous.

So tax cuts are only good if they are republican tax cuts....

Got it, thank you for the clarification.
 
So tax cuts are only good if they are republican tax cuts....

Got it, thank you for the clarification.

LOL, tell me how much of a tax cut did you get vs. what you got with Reagan? Show us some intellectual honesty for a change.

Tax rate cuts are the only cuts that matter and the results are quite telling, results you want to ignore. Seems those Obama tax cuts just aren't being felt by the American consumer, wonder why?
 
So tax cuts are only good if they are republican tax cuts....

Got it, thank you for the clarification.

Here are the Obama tax cuts,

What are the 2009 & 2010 Obama Tax Cuts?

So long as Obama’s plan does as it promises, you will see:
A tax refund of $500 per individual ($1,000 per married couple) if you’re making under $200,000 ($250,000 if married). If under those thresholds you will also not see your tax rate increase.

If you’re a homeowner and don’t itemize your taxes, you can claim a 10% Universal Mortgage Credit. This averages out to $500 per homeowner.
Your capital gains tax rate will stay the same unless you’re making more than the ‘$200K/$250K’ threshold. If you’re over, it’ll go up 25%.

Compare that to the 10-10-5% across the board tax cuts from Reagan. Which one benefited the individual most?

Very easy to see why the Obama tax cuts didn't do any good and why Reagan's actually created jobs.
 
Here are the Obama tax cuts,

What are the 2009 & 2010 Obama Tax Cuts?

So long as Obama’s plan does as it promises, you will see:
A tax refund of $500 per individual ($1,000 per married couple) if you’re making under $200,000 ($250,000 if married). If under those thresholds you will also not see your tax rate increase.

If you’re a homeowner and don’t itemize your taxes, you can claim a 10% Universal Mortgage Credit. This averages out to $500 per homeowner.
Your capital gains tax rate will stay the same unless you’re making more than the ‘$200K/$250K’ threshold. If you’re over, it’ll go up 25%.

Compare that to the 10-10-5% across the board tax cuts from Reagan. Which one benefited the individual most?

Very easy to see why the Obama tax cuts didn't do any good and why Reagan's actually created jobs.

When Reagan, with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", there were fewer deductions. The tax code was "simplified," and overall taxes went down. It really didn't affect me a lot, as the deductions I lost offset the tax cuts.

When Obama, again with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", it came in the form of rebates. That didn't affect me a lot, either, but any reduction in taxes is welcome, so long as it is paired with spending cuts.

Neither Obama's nor Reagan's tax cuts were paired with spending cuts, so the deficit grew both times.

I voted for Reagan the first time around, thinking that he would cut back the size and power of the federal government. When that didn't happen, I didn't vote for him the second time around.

And yes, I was old enough to vote in '80. In fact, the first president I voted for was Lyndon Johnson. That was a mistake, btw, and, if I had it to do over, I would vote for Goldwater.

Not that my one vote would matter anyway, but I'd feel better about it.


Both Reagan and Obama:

Are/were charismatic leaders who had, to say the least, very strong support from some members of their respective parties.

Came to office during difficult economic times, and tried to improve the economy by cutting taxes while increasing spending.

Were vilified by strong opponents.

Were strong orators good at swaying public opinion via the bully pulpit of the presidency.

Advocated bail outs of failing financial institutions (remember the S and L crisis?)

So far, Obama hasn't presided over a scandal of the magnitude of Iran/Contra, but give him time and he just might.
 
When Reagan, with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", there were fewer deductions. The tax code was "simplified," and overall taxes went down. It really didn't affect me a lot, as the deductions I lost offset the tax cuts.

When Obama, again with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", it came in the form of rebates. That didn't affect me a lot, either, but any reduction in taxes is welcome, so long as it is paired with spending cuts.

Neither Obama's nor Reagan's tax cuts were paired with spending cuts, so the deficit grew both times.

I voted for Reagan the first time around, thinking that he would cut back the size and power of the federal government. When that didn't happen, I didn't vote for him the second time around.

And yes, I was old enough to vote in '80. In fact, the first president I voted for was Lyndon Johnson. That was a mistake, btw, and, if I had it to do over, I would vote for Goldwater.

Not that my one vote would matter anyway, but I'd feel better about it.


Both Reagan and Obama:

Are/were charismatic leaders who had, to say the least, very strong support from some members of their respective parties.

Came to office during difficult economic times, and tried to improve the economy by cutting taxes while increasing spending.

Were vilified by strong opponents.

Were strong orators good at swaying public opinion via the bully pulpit of the presidency.

Advocated bail outs of failing financial institutions (remember the S and L crisis?)

So far, Obama hasn't presided over a scandal of the magnitude of Iran/Contra, but give him time and he just might.

Quite correct. Let's hope he avoids the scandal though. ;)
 
When Reagan, with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", there were fewer deductions. The tax code was "simplified," and overall taxes went down. It really didn't affect me a lot, as the deductions I lost offset the tax cuts.

When Obama, again with the advice and consent of Congress, cut taxes "across the board", it came in the form of rebates. That didn't affect me a lot, either, but any reduction in taxes is welcome, so long as it is paired with spending cuts.

Neither Obama's nor Reagan's tax cuts were paired with spending cuts, so the deficit grew both times.

I voted for Reagan the first time around, thinking that he would cut back the size and power of the federal government. When that didn't happen, I didn't vote for him the second time around.

And yes, I was old enough to vote in '80. In fact, the first president I voted for was Lyndon Johnson. That was a mistake, btw, and, if I had it to do over, I would vote for Goldwater.

Not that my one vote would matter anyway, but I'd feel better about it.


Both Reagan and Obama:

Are/were charismatic leaders who had, to say the least, very strong support from some members of their respective parties.

Came to office during difficult economic times, and tried to improve the economy by cutting taxes while increasing spending.

Were vilified by strong opponents.

Were strong orators good at swaying public opinion via the bully pulpit of the presidency.

Advocated bail outs of failing financial institutions (remember the S and L crisis?)

So far, Obama hasn't presided over a scandal of the magnitude of Iran/Contra, but give him time and he just might.


Your comparisons are bogus and if you searched hard enough you could find comparisons between all Presidents in some way or another.

None of what you posted is relevant to the real comparison, the belief in the American people vs. belief in the American govt. Who is empowered by tax cuts, govt. or taxpayerse? Which one talks about and promoted the greatness of America? Which one believes in free enterprise and capitalism?

I find no comparison between the tax over of GM/Chrysler to the S&L crisis but apparently you do. Barack Obama is the most radical individual ever to hold the office of the Presidency and is shifting this country hard left. Anyone that believes there is a credible comparison between the vision and actions of Reagan and Obama is totally out of touch with reality and living in their own little dream world.
 
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