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'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

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Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
Feb 4 2010



London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident
 
Question, would you like to live like this? I personally would not. I thing the study results are way to early to tell if it is 100% accurate. What they are seeing may or may not be what they think it is showing.

As far as saying Jeb Bush may have "killed" that women. Even by your post there is a 83% odd he did not. Only 17% of the comotose patients showed any signs.
 
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Question, would you like to live like this? I personally would not. I thing the study results are way to early to tell if it is 100% accurate. What they are seeing may or may not be what they think it is showing.

As far as saying Jeb Bush may have "killed" that women. Even by your post there is a 83% odd he did not. Only 17% of the comotose patients showed any signs.

Jeb Bush values life and wanted to keep her alive.......You can say that you would not want that but that is not your call and if you were in that situation you might change your mind if you knew there was hope like this guy found out........What if the lefties had tried to kill hhim?
 
Jeb Bush values life and wanted to keep her alive.......You can say that you would not want that but that is not your call and if you were in that situation you might change your mind if you knew there was hope like this guy found out........What if the lefties had tried to kill hhim?

Sorry, mis read your first post.

Now for your response. Our you saying I have no right to how I am to be medically treated? That is what medical directives, living wills are for.

BTW. I am no where near left in political views.
 
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Sorry, mis read your first post.

Now for your response. Our you saying I have no right to how I am to be medically treated? That is what medical directives, living wills are for.

BTW. I am no where near left in political views.

The lady in question who had her feeding tubes pulled and starved to death had no living will...

I just calls em as I sees em..........If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then you can bet its usually a duck..........Have a nice evening.........
 
Schiavo again, really? Failing to extend her life and killing her are two different concepts. If she didn't leave a living will or other such instructions for whether or not to keep her in a coma then the decision falls upon her husband, who would have been responsible for her care. The government should've had nothing to do with it.
 
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Schiavo was worse off, this would not have worked with her, she had no awareness. Hope that they find a easier way to help the guy communicate.
 
Schiavo was worse off, this would not have worked with her, she had no awareness. Hope that they find a easier way to help the guy communicate.

They were both vegative....How do you know she was worse off them him?
 
Schiavo again, really? Failing to extend her life and killing her are two different concepts. If she didn't leave a living will or other such instructions for whether or not to keep her in a coma then the decision falls upon her husband, who would have been responsible for her care. The government should've had nothing to do with it.

If thinking that way makes you able to sleep better at night its ok........

It wouldn't me.......
 
Whats an ouija board, and it does not state what question was asked?
 
They were both vegative....How do you know she was worse off them him?
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Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
Feb 4 2010



London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident
her brain was liquid, if i remember correctly. hardly the same.
 
If I wish to die with dignity, the politicians damn well better leave me alone. It's disgusting that we are not given a choice, should the opportunity arise, in how we will die.
 
Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
Feb 4 2010



London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident

I don't really see what your point is with this thread. Not all cases where people are in a vegetative state are similar. This appears more like a typical partisan attack thread. Yes, Navy, we get it...you don't like people on the left.
 
If thinking that way makes you able to sleep better at night its ok........

It wouldn't me.......

If I am ever in a coma I want to be unplugged. I would have no feelings of guilt unplugging anyone else in a coma, unless they had requested otherwise. I would feel more guilt keeping someone alive when they wanted to die. If you think anyone who disagrees with your opinion is morally wrong and thus must feel guilt for their actions then I think you are an idiot.
 
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If I am ever in a coma I want to be unplugged. I would have no feelings of guilt unplugging anyone else in a coma, unless they had requested otherwise. I would feel more guilt keeping someone alive when they wanted to die. If you think anyone who disagrees with your opinion is morally wrong and thus must feel guilt for their actions then I think you are an idiot.

Like I said before you can say that now but if you were in the actual situation you might change your mind.......

The will to live is very strong..........
 
Oh yeah, keep me alive so that I can answer Yes or No questions while lying in my MRI machine.

They'll give me one of those machines for free, right?





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The Dalton Trumbo book "Johnny got His Gun" comes to mind here, 70 years later and the moral questions it brings up0 regarding being trapped within ones own mind are still unanswered, and will always be. I could think of no worse hell.

Metallica sums up the book well in the song "One"


Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please god, wake me

Now the world is gone I'm just one
Oh god, help me

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please god, help me

Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell


Absolute horror to be sure. even more horrific in a case where a person has his mental faculty. Since he is responding to questions I wonder if anyone had the presence of mind to ask if he wanted to live or not? An even more compelling question is if he stated a desire to die, if his pleas would go ignored as happened in "Johnny got His Gun".

At what point does acting under the notion of what we consider "humane" devolve into unnecessary torture and become inhumane? There is no clear cut delineation here, if we value each and every life than we also have to value that each and every life has a time and a place to end, and just because we have technology and machinery that can at times extend life beyond the limits of what was historically impossible, that does not necessarily mean that we should take every possible step there is to prolong it through unnatural means.
 
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Like I said before you can say that now but if you were in the actual situation you might change your mind.......

The will to live is very strong..........

I don't think so. But if that is so, I want to make this decision while I am of sound mind, not when some will to live takes over my intellect. Unplug me.
 
If he's answering questions. He's not in a vegitative state.
 
I hope you never have to deal with this type of choice, Navy, because both options suck worse than you can possibly imagine.

Even if you chose life, hoping that the impossible can occur, that decision can haunt you for the rest of your life because while the body may survive, the person doesn't always make it.

The person I take care of daily is not my father. He died four years ago. The child-like doppelganger that has replaced him is barely even a shell of his former self.

I know that if I could, even for one moment, talk to the man that was my father, he'd prefer to be dead than to be what he is today.

But this child-like doppelganger that has replaced him doesn't have the same intelligence or personality that he had and, by some miracle, it's happy as it is.

That's the only thing that keeps me going. The fact that the doppelganger is happy in this state. Because I know my father would beg us to kill him, and I don't think I could handle that emotionally or spiritually.

So I hope that the people who use these terrible events to start bull**** partisan threads never have to face these situations. Because as much as it disgusts me personally to see these things politicized by people who are clueless about the realities of TBI, I wouldn't wish the life I live on anyone, not even my worst enemy.
 
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I hope you never have to deal with this type of choice, Navy, because both options suck worse than you can possibly imagine.

Even if you chose life, hoping that the impossible can occur, that decision can haunt you for the rest of your life because while the body may survive, the person doesn't always make it.
Navy lives in a black and white world. In such a reality, complex choices are watered down, oversimplified, and decisions are easy. He wouldn't live with any regret.
 
Navy lives in a black and white world. In such a reality, complex choices are watered down, oversimplified, and decisions are easy. He wouldn't live with any regret.

Well I hope he never has to face the reality, because nothing lets you know that the world isn't black and white quite like living with someone who suffers from severe TBI.

Especially when that person was your childhood hero.
 
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