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Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

Ethereal said:
Although this is funny, I think it's counter-productive to some extent. The Phelps clan thrives off of publicity. By counter-protesting them, you're actually giving them exactly what they want. Basically, they're real life trolls and they feel validated when they receive attention, whether it's negative or positive.

If you really want to put these worthless scumbags in their place, then ignore them completely.
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I disagree with you. The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about.
 
danarhea said:
I disagree with you. The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about.
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Agreed. If we ignore them it will appear we have no political will to show they are idiots. Besides who could ignore them if they show up at a loved one's funeral?
 
I'm from Kansas and see these idiots all the time. I hate them more than I could ever, ever explain to anyone.

I've actually taken the time out of my day to plot how I could pick them off from a sniper hide.

They usually put the kids out front, so if you wanted to run them over with a big truck or something, you would have to take out all the kids, too.

The most effective way would be a sniper attack of some sort. From what I've seen, they aren't too cognizant of potential sniper hides around the areas they protest. But I don't have the balls to do it. I really wish someone did.

Fred himself rarely shows up. ****ing Coward.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Agreed. If we ignore them it will appear we have no political will to show they are idiots. Besides who could ignore them if they show up at a loved one's funeral?
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I disagree, I see nuts like them here in Louisiana from time to time, they aren't of the exact same opinion as the Phelps cult, but they have similar tactics and they won't let you ignore them. As for your second point, I couldn't promise they would see another day if my relative was in the casket they were protesting.
 
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danarhea said:
I disagree with you. The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about.
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Why does their spin need to be countered? Why do people need to see what they're all about? It's not like people are going to suddenly start embracing their cause. They're just a couple dozen rednecks - all members of the Phelps family - who don't deserve nearly the amount of attention they get. Ethereal is right; they're just real life trolls.
 
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Kandahar said:
Why does their spin need to be countered? Why do people need to see what they're all about? It's not like people are going to suddenly start embracing their cause. They're just a couple dozen rednecks - all members of the Phelps family - who don't deserve nearly the amount of attention they get. Ethereal is right; they're just real life trolls.
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If you had a fallen relative in the military being buried and they showed up could you really ignore them? Seriously could you?
 
"The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about." - danarhea

Heck! If ya wanna see exactly what their like, just check out their web-site.

I still fail to understand how anyone can call themself a "Christain" and can believe what these idiots believe...I honestly just don't get it...
 
EnigmaO01 said:
If you had a fallen relative in the military being buried and they showed up could you really ignore them? Seriously could you?
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Probably not, but that's not what we're talking about. These were a bunch of complete strangers who showed up to counter their protest in front of Twitter.
 
The Baron said:
"The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about." - danarhea

Heck! If ya wanna see exactly what their like, just check out their web-site.

I still fail to understand how anyone can call themself a "Christain" and can believe what these idiots believe...I honestly just don't get it...
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Spot on. I don't get it either, most religion at their cores are supposed to be about loving your neighbor, not judging them, and yet fanatics from all walks pervert it into something horrid and vile.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Spot on. I don't get it either, most religion at their cores are supposed to be about loving your neighbor, not judging them, and yet fanatics from all walks pervert it into something horrid and vile.
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Honestly the more I think about it the more I believe these people are honestly just trolling the entire U.S. I mean I just have a hard time believing that people really belief this stuff.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
As I indicated on the now defunct WS website, if my nephew would have come back from Iraq in a body bag and I knew these scumbags were going to protest at the funeral, I guarantee you all us attendees would have had baseball bats even if I had to go out and buy them. I'm not a violent person but I would have taken glee in cracking some heads in this case.
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A good friend of mine lost her son in Iraq in 2006 and this sicko bunch was there - at the visitation.

The Patriot Guard was there to fend off their asinine protests. They are a DISGUSTING group of sub-humans. In a military town, they were lucky someone didn't take a pot shot at them, let alone just run their asses down with their vehicles since they were precariously perched on the sidewalks and curbs with their signs of hate.

Mission Complete - Cpl. David M. Unger, 21, Leavenworth, KS - 25, 26, 27 OCT 06 > Patriot Guard Forums - Americans Doing the Right Thing > Patriot Guard Riders

David M Unger  - Iraq War Heroes, Fallen Heroes Memorial
 
soccerboy22 said:
Honestly the more I think about it the more I believe these people are honestly just trolling the entire U.S. I mean I just have a hard time believing that people really belief this stuff.
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I don't know, I've met people like that before, I think these are true believers and not necessarily attention seekers.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
A good friend of mine lost her son in Iraq in 2006 and this sicko bunch was there - at the visitation.

The Patriot Guard was there to fend off their asinine protests. They are a DISGUSTING group of sub-humans. In a military town, they were lucky someone didn't take a pot shot at them, let alone just run their asses down with their vehicles since they were precariously perched on the sidewalks and curbs with their signs of hate.

Mission Complete - Cpl. David M. Unger, 21, Leavenworth, KS - 25, 26, 27 OCT 06 > Patriot Guard Forums - Americans Doing the Right Thing > Patriot Guard Riders

David M Unger* - Iraq War Heroes, Fallen Heroes Memorial
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The Patriot Guard Riders are true heroes, I firmly believe in their cause, if I had time and a bike I would gladly sign on.
 
I love how, if there's one thing that pretty much everybody on the left and right can agree on, its that we all loath the Westboro Baptist Church!
 
It warms my heart to see us crossing boundaries and coming together in such a situation. Democrat and Republican, rich and poor, black and white, Christian, muslim, jew, and atheist, everyone together can agree that the Phelps clan are douches of epic magnitude.
 
I almost want to sing Kumbaya :mrgreen:
 
danarhea said:
I disagree with you. The counter protests will counter all spin coming from these morons, and show more Americans exactly what these Nazi bootlickers are all about.
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No, it will give them exactly what they want: Publicity. If we just ignored them then no one would even know who these freaks are. Do you feel the need to counter-protest the flat-Earth society? If not, then why do we need to counter-protest a bunch of irrelevant bigots?
 
Ethereal said:
No, it will give them exactly what they want: Publicity. If we just ignored them then no one would even know who these freaks are. Do you feel the need to counter-protest the flat-Earth society? If not, then why do we need to counter-protest a bunch of irrelevant bigots?
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No, by counter protesting, we let our fellow Americans know that there are still some Nazi crazies who would fire up the Nazi ovens again, in a heartbeat, if they were to ever come to power. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And before we can learn from history, we must first know it, and then we must also recognize the cancer still exists, even today. Germany wasn't always like they were in WWII. Most Germans were pretty decent people. They just didn't recognize what was in their midst, and in their ignorance, they embraced the monster. Today, I prefer that we ridicule monsters, so that they are never, EVER, able to have a voice in a civilized society, but will always be regarded as the hateful lunatics they are.

Let Phelps and his ilk rant their sorry asses off to their hearts' content**, and let our fellow Americans see their wackiness. Better than that, let the whole world see these vermin, shake their heads in digust, and remember the Holocaust. This bootlicking scum will never be recognized as a legitimate voice in America. But even complete assholes have the right to say what's on their minds. Conversely, people with even a modicum of sanity also have the right to point them out for ridicule. It's great being an American, isn't it?

**However, if they do it at a funeral, or otherwise violate the privacy of others, then throw their sorry asses in jail, and throw away the ****ing key.
 
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This is from their FAQ section:

Why do you picket soldiers' funerals?

First of all, read this transcript from Scarborough Country and this transcript from Hannity And Colmes that explain why.

Secondly, here are some axiomatic matters of fact:

These turkeys are not heroes. They are lazy, incompetent idiots looking for jobs because they're not qualified for honest work.

They were raised on a steady diet of fag propaganda in the home, on TV, in church, in school, in mass media - everywhere - the two-pronged lie: 1) It's OK to be gay; and, 2) Anyone saying otherwise, like WBC, is a hatemonger who must be vilified, demonized, marginalized into silence.

Therefore, with full knowledge of what they were doing, they voluntarily joined a fag-infested army to fight for a fag-run country now utterly and finally forsaken by God who Himself is fighting against that country.

They turned America
Over to fags;
They're coming home
In body bags.

America used an IED to bomb Westboro Baptist Church on August 20,1995 - an act of terror aimed at terrorizing us into discontinuing our nationwide Gospel preaching against the homosexual menace.

When America thus became WBC's terrorist, God became America's Terrorist.

Therefore the IED is God's weapon of choice in avenging Westboro Baptist Church by blowing America's kids to smithereens in Iraq. And the carnage has barely begun.

Thus, their funerals are the forum of choice for delivering WBC's message of choice.
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Never in my life have I wanted to cause irreparable damage on another human being.
For these disgraceful bastards I would make an exception.
 
danarhea said:
No, by counter protesting, we let our fellow Americans know that there are still some Nazi crazies who would fire up the Nazi ovens again, in a heartbeat, if they were to ever come to power. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And before we can learn from history, we must first know it, and then we must also recognize the cancer still exists, even today. Germany wasn't always like they were in WWII. Most Germans were pretty decent people. They just didn't recognize what was in their midst, and in their ignorance, they embraced the monster. Today, I prefer that we ridicule monsters, so that they are never, EVER, able to have a voice in a civilized society, but will always be regarded as the hateful lunatics they are.

Let Phelps and his ilk rant their sorry asses off to their hearts' content**, and let our fellow Americans see their wackiness. Better than that, let the whole world see these vermin, shake their heads in digust, and remember the Holocaust. This bootlicking scum will never be recognized as a legitimate voice in America. But even complete assholes have the right to say what's on their minds. Conversely, people with even a modicum of sanity also have the right to point them out for ridicule. It's great being an American, isn't it?
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You're just facilitating their agenda. Morons who would've otherwise been ignorant of the Phelps clan will be exposed to their message of hate because of the publicity they receive. If anything, you're acting as a recruiting tool for them.

No reasonable person is going to be convinced by these morons, so the idea that they need to be countered is just nonsensical.

**However, if they do it at a funeral, or otherwise violate the privacy of others, then throw their sorry asses in jail, and throw away the ****ing key.
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If they're disturbing the peace then they should be prosecuted. Other than that, they should be ignored completely.
 
Arch Enemy said:
This is from their FAQ section:



Never in my life have I wanted to cause irreparable damage on another human being.
For these disgraceful bastards I would make an exception.
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It's amazing isn't it? It's as if they all sat down and said "Hey, what can we do that would piss off EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN?"
 
danarhea said:
No, by counter protesting, we let our fellow Americans know that there are still some Nazi crazies who would fire up the Nazi ovens again, in a heartbeat, if they were to ever come to power. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And before we can learn from history, we must first know it, and then we must also recognize the cancer still exists, even today. Germany wasn't always like they were in WWII. Most Germans were pretty decent people. They just didn't recognize what was in their midst, and in their ignorance, they embraced the monster. Today, I prefer that we ridicule monsters, so that they are never, EVER, able to have a voice in a civilized society, but will always be regarded as the hateful lunatics they are.
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The Westboro Baptist Church has maybe 20 members, and they're all members of Fred Phelps' family. I don't think you need to worry about them coming to power anytime soon. If there were millions of people doing this, that might be a different matter.

danarhea said:
This bootlicking scum will never be recognized as a legitimate voice in America.
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That is exactly what you are doing by encouraging protests. As that great philosopher, Teh Interwebz, once said:
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Ethereal said:
No, it will give them exactly what they want: Publicity. If we just ignored them then no one would even know who these freaks are. Do you feel the need to counter-protest the flat-Earth society? If not, then why do we need to counter-protest a bunch of irrelevant bigots?
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It's a little hard to ignore the screaming loonies, when they are standing directly across the street from a visitation. The grieving family of an Army soldier and hundreds of people were exposed to their shouts of, "faggoted baby killer" and worse... at this young man's service for godssakes. It's a little hard to just ignore that.

That is why groups like the Patriot Guard do what they do. Without them, I don't know as if there wouldn't have been a huge riot of Army soldiers beating the living **** out of this group of sick bastards. The ONLY bad part about that is.. while the sickos had a "right" to be across the street shouting obscenities, everyone else did NOT have the right to beat their asses.. which IMO, is what they deserved in the very least. Unfortunately, it would have been the decent people who would have gotten arrested and charged.. and that is screwed up, IMHO.
 
I can just see myself going all Gene Wilder "You ignorant son-of-a-b*tch dumb bastard" on these loons.

God, I've met a lot of dumb people, but these guys outdo them all.... even PETA!


God, somebody just shoot me now, my braincells explode with the stupidity.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
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The ONLY bad part about that is.. while the sickos had a "right" to be across the street shouting obscenities, everyone else did NOT have the right to beat their asses.. which IMO, is what they deserved in the very least.
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Actually, there is a technicality in assault and battery, the case was in the '50's I believe(going from memory, might be a little off), but this SCOTUS case was based on "fighting words" and it basically stated that words or expression which could elicit a violent act upon their utterance are not protected speech, and furthermore could face criminal charges, further, exemptions from violence charges would be considered acceptable as this person was encouraged to violence by the act of making the statement. It would be like if someone just walked up to a random black couple and uttered the N-word to them, or say, that same racist tard insulted the man's lady in a derogatory way, reasonable people could then be expected to "beat the ****" out of that scumbag.
 
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