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Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

Pffft. You're so loopy on the matter, it would be utterly pointless to try to have a rational discussion with you.

But, please do carry on. :spin: :rofl :2wave:

So, discussion is a no....you just want to do your best impression of the love child of American and Truth Detector.

Got it.

No problem, at least you've admited you just want to post your trollish one liners, easier to ignore you then.

When you want to actually have a discussion, you can try and explain to me how theoritically being able to pay for one part of an enterprise made up of dozens of different parts equates to you bank rolling said enterprise.
 
RightinNYC is a lawyer? Is there a projectile vomit smiley?


j/k.


sort of.

He is pretty OK for a lawyer though. Admittedly, that is probably damning him with faint praise, but hey.
 
He is pretty OK for a lawyer though. Admittedly, that is probably damning him with faint praise, but hey.

Well if there is one profession in the same dumpster as lawyers, it is probably economists, so I feel his pain.
 
I mostly agree with your assessment, except the part about being highly intelligent. If he were highly intelligent, his understanding of economics would be better than a teenage stoner in a Che Guevarra T-shirt. Unfortunately it's not.

If Obama were not intelligent, then how did he not only get a law degree from Harvard, but become editor of the Harvard Law Review as well? There is plenty to bash Obama on, but when I see posts like this, then I have to recognize that it is only hate fueling the argument of that post, not critical thinking.
 
Rather than "Not" didn't the judge say "So".................?
 
If Obama were not intelligent, then how did he not only get a law degree from Harvard, but become editor of the Harvard Law Review as well? There is plenty to bash Obama on, but when I see posts like this, then I have to recognize that it is only hate fueling the argument of that post, not critical thinking.

You must not know many people from Harvard. Or many lawyers. I interact with both on a daily basis. There are some very bright ones, and there are some stupid ones. That's just the way it is. But I actually agree with you. It defies common sense that someone so dumb could accomplish what he has, not only attending Harvard but becoming US Senator and President. But my assessment of his intelligence doesn't have to do with any of that. It has to do with what he's actually said and done since he's been in office. He's obviously very shrewd in a Machiavellian way, but clueless when it comes to economics. Maybe you could consider that shrewdness a type of intelligence, but I don't. Middle school girls can be shrewd in their interactions with each other.

You know, that also reminds me that we had another president recently who had a graduate degree from Harvard, and his opponents weren't shy about questioning his intelligence. And he actually had a clue how to run the country.
 
What Obama said: "I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests or, worse, by foreign entities. "




That is an outright lie, that the constitutional scholar Obama should konw. Corporations can not "bank roll" elections for individuals. The ruling over turned a facet of the law prohibiting corporations from running advertisements with money from their general funds rather than from a PAC. What is DOESN'T overturn is a different part of the law that keeps corporations from directly financing a campaign.

America's "most powerful interests" can not "bank roll" any election, not based simply on this ruling. Its ludicrous and flat out misrepresentation that I can not fathom such a "Incredibly intelligent" constitutional laywer like Obama did not realize.

Not to mention the fact that "foreign entities" are still prohibited in any type of political electioneering by laws that were not effected by this ruling......not surprisingly, Barry flat out lied.
 
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If Obama were not intelligent, then how did he not only get a law degree from Harvard, but become editor of the Harvard Law Review as well?
Affirmative action?
 
Justice Alito mouths 'not true' - POLITICO Live - POLITICO.com


Obama yacks about bipartisanship and then hurls a beanball at the Supreme Court. He speaks out of every side of every orifice this twit.

But... if you want the Democrats to go asunder like a balsa wood boat in a hurricane... he's doing it... for this speech, except for its incessantly nagging tone, will be forgotten, as his hundred plus other appearances in the past year.

The speech will be remembered... for its grating nature.

Can't wait for November; he just screwed a whole lot of Democrats.
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Yet, just one more example the President is in fact a contemporary Progressive, aka Left-wing. Certainly not a mere liberal.
 
If Obama were not intelligent, then how did he not only get a law degree from Harvard, but become editor of the Harvard Law Review as well? There is plenty to bash Obama on, but when I see posts like this, then I have to recognize that it is only hate fueling the argument of that post, not critical thinking.

Do you think that Bush was not intelligent?
 
Here...is the State of the Union Address, you don't take swipes at the Court in front of you. Your not knowing this doesn't excuse Obama's clownish antics.

Obama is an inexperienced mental midget.
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You know how funny that sounds coming from you??

Your comments up to this point are like the overweight slob sitting at Yankee stadium yelling at A-Rod for swinging at one bad pitch. A professional athlete has more athleticism in his little finger than the human waste sitting in the stands guzzling beers--yet from the safety of the stands, fatso can yell whatever he wants.

On the anonymous internet, you can pretend to have a Phd in economics and a law degree. It's amazing how partisans believe their intelligence and life accomplishments are some how in the same league with a sitting President.

Obama was overstating the 'bankrolling' impact of the court's decision--not the first time a politician has ever done that.

Indeed, the legal experts we spoke to after Obama's radio address said that the president was overstating the immediate impact of the opinion. They said Obama was correct that the ruling could open the door to foreign companies spending on American campaigns, given the general direction of the majority's opinion. But because the majority justices didn't actually strike down the existing barriers on foreign companies -- in fact, they explicitly wrote that it fell beyond the boundaries of their decision -- our experts agreed that Obama erred by suggesting that the issue is settled law. Until test cases proceed and further rulings are handed down, Obama's claim about foreign campaign spending is a reasonable interpretation, and nothing more.

Alito shook is head and made a quiet remark. Big deal. Biden was shaking his head all night.

But of course FNC rolled out their new queen to begin talking out of her ass... Sarah Palin, a woman who couldn't name one supreme court case besides Roe v Wade is now acting like she's some sort of scholar -- and now ideologues on internet can echo her moronic talking points...

I think this is all about the far-right comfort zone being pushed, seeing the Republican senators and congressmen stand up and clap so many times. They need to make the SOTUS all about one moment and not bother to actually discuss the entire speech.

To see the right side of the aisle leap up and clap so many times must be killing the far-right fringe Tea Bagger bigots... I'm surprised they're not analyzing the tape and pointing out the Rinos.
 
And there was no "debate" going on. There was a person in the audiance commenting privately to another person and it got picked up on a TV camera. Your statement about it not being a debate forum makes it seem that Alito jumped forward to counter the President. He didn't. The President of the United States just used the SOTU address to take a pot shot at the Supreme Court by using a lie, and amazed as this breech of decorum and class he made a comment to someone. Yet somehow Alito is the only one worthy of scorn.

That's hardly "classless" in my book. Perhaps a break of decorum? Maybe.

But no more so than Obama's break in Decorum by lying about the ramifications of a surpreme court decision and attacking said decision in the SOTU addressed, which has not been done in over 3 decades apparently.

I don't know why you're so up in arms about my opinion. While what Obama did was not common, I don't think saying he disagrees with a Supreme Court decision is rude. Is it rude if Obama is sitting in the Supeme Court and a Justice reads the ruling on a decision that finds a law Obama passed unconstitutional? It would be one thing if he insulted a particular Justice or Justices. While he misrepresented the ruling, I don't believe it was intentional.
 
I don't think it's a non-event. If the president thinks it's OK to try to influence the Supreme Court through embarassment and intimidation on national television, then that's a pretty good reason why he shouldn't be president anymore.

But then, I already knew he shouldn't be president anymore, so maybe in that sense it is a non-event.

Hopefully it changes some other people's minds though.

He's trying to influence the SC? LMAO
 
I don't know why you're so up in arms about my opinion. While what Obama did was not common, I don't think saying he disagrees with a Supreme Court decision is rude. Is it rude if Obama is sitting in the Supeme Court and a Justice reads the ruling on a decision that finds a law Obama passed unconstitutional? It would be one thing if he insulted a particular Justice or Justices. While he misrepresented the ruling, I don't believe it was intentional.

No, it wouldn't be rude for a Justice to do that, because that's not uncommon. That's their job. Its a regular, typical, every day (relatively speaking) thing for a Supreme Court Justice to make a ruling on a case.

What isn't usual, or common, or even precedented in over 30 years, is using the State of the Union to speak negatively about a Supreme Court decision, while they're sitting there, when the court is meant to be roughly apolitical would be inappropriate for them to actively publicly defend themselves against a flat out lie by the President.

I don't know why you're so up in arms about a man who just got unprecedentatly attacked on a national stage privately whispering his disagreement to someone.
 
It is difficult to understand the level of actual anger against Alito here. Even if it was inappropriate to quietly say "that's not true" on a factual assertion by the President, it certainly doesn't warrant this kind of reaction.
 
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You're kidding right. You continue to slam him for being "classless" while continuing to ignore that Obama broke decorum and ettiquite as well, doing something that hasn't been done since Ford so you're talking, what, at least 32 SOTU's? And on top of that the swipe he took that broke decorum was arguably a lie.

But you have NO negative words for Obama, NO words speaking of his behavior, his "classlessness".

But you have an issue with a person sitting in the audiance talking to someone during a speech privately that happened to be caught on camera speaking his displeasure?

You've never attended an event that you've commented on the speech quietly, privately, to a person you're attending it with before?

If this was like the recent one and he jumped up and said "You Lie!" I'd agree with you, just as I agreed then. But he didn't, he didn't make a big spectacle, he made a small private comment that got caught on camera.

Yet he's classless and worthy of all codemnation while you completely ignore Obama.

With all that said, Alito has to be aware of the world we live in now a days. If you want to comment lean over to the person and cover your mouth because we live in the digital age and every movement of the eyes, lips, or hands is going to be disected in a thing like this.

I find interesting how conservatives will attack Obama for sneezing and call it "disgraceful" or "uncontionable"; however, those same people never say a negative word about the dispiciable actions of their own.
 
It is difficult to understand the level of anger against Alito here.

Alito is and always has been a Bush flunky. He is a robed politician who should never have been appointed to the SCOTUS.
 
Alito is and always has been a Bush flunky. He is a robed politician who should never have been appointed to the SCOTUS.

Even if that were 100% true and not typical Vader way-over-the-top nuclear-powered hyperbole, it still doesn't make him incorrect, what Obama said any less untrue, or quietly mouthing "that's not true" in response any more than a tiny blip.
 
I find interesting how conservatives will attack Obama for sneezing and call it "disgraceful" or "uncontionable"; however, those same people never say a negative word about the dispiciable actions of their own.

I find it odd that most of the times you only post when it suits your political agenda and who you want to hit at a specific time...

Specifically because you target conservatives when frankly BOTH sides have routinely attacked the other for doing something miniscule but will say next to nothing, or immedietely excuse, the actions of their owns.

This is not a right or left issue, its just a people issue. People typically when segregated into "teams", "groups", or any sort of collection will have a number who fall into group think and will seek to defend "Theirs" and attack "others".
 
But was he at the BOTTOM of that top 10%? Please don't answer that. I am on a fishing expedition. :mrgreen:

Hey guess what, I was actually in the top 1% at my university! I must be a ****ing genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :usflag2:Elect me!!!!!!!!!!!!:usflag2:
 
I find it extremely disappointing that half the country lacks the basic common sense to realize that taking money from profitable businesses and giving it to failing businesses on net is not going to "create" jobs.
I blame two things:
1) The educational system, they preach theory over substance when it comes to basic economics and what looks good on paper in economics rarely, if ever translates into real world results, also, nothing, including money, works in a vacuum, and the failing of much of our educational is that we don't really explain the process of costs being passed down to consumers.
2) A very successful campaign by certain portions of our country against private sector entities that exploits the first point, since many people don't realize every time they "stick it to the man" they are actually sticking it to themselves.
 
If Obama were not intelligent, then how did he not only get a law degree from Harvard, but become editor of the Harvard Law Review as well? There is plenty to bash Obama on, but when I see posts like this, then I have to recognize that it is only hate fueling the argument of that post, not critical thinking.
I'm not that impressed with a Harvard resume to be honest, what was once a very respectable school has become nothing more than a grandiose groupthink session.
 
I find it odd that most of the times you only post when it suits your political agenda and who you want to hit at a specific time...

Specifically because you target conservatives when frankly BOTH sides have routinely attacked the other for doing something miniscule but will say next to nothing, or immedietely excuse, the actions of their owns.

This is not a right or left issue, its just a people issue. People typically when segregated into "teams", "groups", or any sort of collection will have a number who fall into group think and will seek to defend "Theirs" and attack "others".

I really have no political agenda. I call it as I see it and I happen to know that Alito has long been a Bush flunky who is, like his appointer, owned by big business special interest groups.

Granted you make a fair point about the partisan bickering of the government. This is true. Both sides tend to attack eachother without regard to taste, tact, or good manners.

I am and will always be a liberatarian. I dislike both sides equally. I want business seperated from politics by whatever means necessary; including putting politicans and those who give them so much as one signe penny in cell for 15-25 years without parole. I also think those crimes need to unpardonable. This step will keep partisan pardoning of political allies in check.

People often ask me why I attack the right as often as I do. I am a disability sufferer. I have been victimized by a number of corporate employers. When I tried to get justice, I was denied. The corporations (right wingers) bought of politicans to make sure they are allowed to do whatever they want to whomever they please without consequences.
As such, I see the right as the enemy of the middle class and the poor.

As to the left, my issue with the left has always been that while they allow for welfare (which the right would strip away if it could) they do not have a clue how to defend the country.

They cannot see a threat where it exists. They would rather wait for some Al Qaida ****tard to set off a nuke on US soil before they move against those who arm the terrorists.

Liberals cannot see Iran as a threat. Well ... Iran is a threat; hopefully the current government will fall and that situation will eliminate itself. If it does not, we need to act BEFORE Iran gets nuclear weapons.
 
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