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Obama State of the Union

Conservative said:
Where do you get your information, during the Reagan years Govt. revenue to the Treasury doubled, GDP Doubled and over 20 million jobs were created.

You keep distorting, diverting, and running from the lie that you told.
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All on borrowed money. It caused the depression we are suffering today. Reagan's voodoo economics was nothing but a giant ponzi sceme.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
All on borrowed money. It caused the depression we are suffering today. Reagan's voodoo economics was nothing but a giant ponzi sceme.
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Again, no answer to the question, how does doubling the GDP, doubling the revenue to the Federal Govt. and allowing people to keep more of what they earn lead to a depression?

Where do you get your information? Why don't you try non partisan sites that won't make you look foolish?
 
Conservative said:
Again, no answer to the question, how does doubling the GDP, doubling the revenue to the Federal Govt. and allowing people to keep more of what they earn lead to a depression?

Where do you get your information? Why don't you try non partisan sites that won't make you look foolish?
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*******I did not come here to answer your ambiguous ******* partisan questions.
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LiberalAvenger said:
*******I did not come here to answer your ambiguous ******* partisan questions.
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Ambiguous questions? LOL, You said Reagan took money from the poor by giving the rich a tax cut. Now you are doing everything you can to back track from that statement without admitting that you were wrong.

Then you claim the Reagan economic policy gave us a depression. I asked you a very specific question that has nothing to do with partisanship even though everything you do or say is partisan. Again you run from the question because you know again you are wrong

You really haven't a clue as to what you are talking about. If you are who you say you are, 67 years old, blue collar then I have to question the education system that taught you but not why you were blue collar. Your biased, partisan wranglings say a lot about you and your lack of basic economic knowledge as well as the inability to actually do quality research. Instead you let the leftwing blogs define you.
 
donc said:
Nah ,the Republican party is extinct,all that is left is the wingers. :2wave:
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Tell that to Massachusetts voters.
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LiberalAvenger said:
All on borrowed money. It caused the depression we are suffering today. Reagan's voodoo economics was nothing but a giant ponzi sceme.
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Would you also say that about Bush when 40% of the people are exempt from income tax?
 
ptif219 said:
It started under Bush

Bush announces withdrawal of 8,000 US troops from Iraq | World news | guardian.co.uk


eorge Bush will today announce the withdrawal of 8,000 combat troops from Iraq and an increase in US forces in Afghanistan.

In remarks prepared for delivery to the US National Defence University, and released by the White House late last night, the US president bracketed Pakistan with the other two countries as major battlegrounds in the so-called war on terror.

The troop cut for Iraq will probably be Bush's last major decision in a highly unpopular war that has seen his ratings plummet.

There are around 146,000 US forces in Iraq. A marine battalion, of about 1,000 troops, would go home on schedule in November and not be replaced. An army brigade of between 3,500 and 4,000 troops would leave in February. About 3,400 support forces will also go home over the next few months.

As for Afghanistan, Bush will send roughly 4,500 troops to face a resurgent Taliban. More than half of Bush's address will be devoted to Afghanistan as he outlines a "quiet surge" of additional American forces there, bringing the US presence to nearly 31,000.

"For all the good work we have done in that country, it is clear we must do even more," Bush said.

The US president announced that a marine battalion scheduled to go to Iraq in November would go to Afghanistan instead, and that would be followed by an army combat brigade. His speech also highlights decisions to vastly increase the size of the Afghan national army, which will grow from its current size of 60,000 troops to 120,000, instead of 80,000.
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As with the Missioned Accomplished banner, he made the announcement before he accomplished the task. None of those troops went home during Bush's term.
 
Catawba said:
As with the Missioned Accomplished banner, he made the announcement before he accomplished the task. None of those troops went home during Bush's term.
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Bush never said the war would be over during his term, he said the opposite.
 
Catawba said:
As with the Missioned Accomplished banner, he made the announcement before he accomplished the task. None of those troops went home during Bush's term.
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Why am I not surprised that you didn't understand the banner? The Aircraft carrier was returning for doing it's job, Mission Accomplished. Not surprising that someone who cannot get any non partisan information would get this wrong as well.
 
ptif219 said:
McCain was to liberal
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What's wrong with being liberal.? Do you have any proof that liberals are bad?

The republican party, as it stands now, has Mitch McConnell from Kentucky, senate, and eddie cantor, reps, virginia. McConnell barely made it past his last election. His state is owned by toyota. Toyota is in big trouble with recalls and will be laying off people in his state and he will have a hard time getting re elected. He is also rated as the 7th most corrupt member of congress.

Cantor is a meat puppet for the hard core teabaggers and birthers whose main tactic is lying.
 
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LiberalAvenger;1058554069]What's wrong with being liberal.? Do you have any proof that liberals are bad?
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Have you even read your posts? That is proof enough. Anyone that would ignore BEA, BLS, and the U.S. Treasury data isn't honest and IMO bad. Seems that data was just fine when Clinton was in the WH touting his performance but when Reagan and Bush were in the office the information isn't credible. Now Obama is in office and the data because it is bad is ignored.

The republican party, as it stands now, has Mitch McConnell from Kentucky, senate, and eddie cantor, reps, virginia. McConnell barely made it past his last election. His state is owned by toyota. Toyota is in big trouble with recalls and will be laying off people in his state and he will have a hard time getting re elected. He is also rated as the 7th most corrupt member of congress.

Cantor is a meat puppet for the hard core teabaggers and birthers whose main tactic is lying.
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Apparently lying means something different to you than the rest of the world. The leftwing blogs you read are hardly credible and certainly have a double standard. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and of course Barack Obama haven't lied at all, :rofl

I suggest reading a little more, posting a little less, and try to restore some credibility.
 
Conservative said:
Have you even read your posts? That is proof enough. Anyone that would ignore BEA, BLS, and the U.S. Treasury data isn't honest and IMO bad. Seems that data was just fine when Clinton was in the WH touting his performance but when Reagan and Bush were in the office the information isn't credible. Now Obama is in office and the data because it is bad is ignored.
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Apparently lying means something different to you than the rest of the world. The leftwing blogs you read are hardly credible and certainly have a double standard. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and of course Barack Obama haven't lied at all, :rofl

I suggest reading a little more, posting a little less, and try to restore some credibility.[/QUOTE]

What ever you say mister noitall:roll:
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Apparently lying means something different to you than the rest of the world. The leftwing blogs you read are hardly credible and certainly have a double standard. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and of course Barack Obama haven't lied at all, :rofl

I suggest reading a little more, posting a little less, and try to restore some credibility.
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What ever you say mister noitall:roll:[/QUOTE]

Typical response I would expect from someone who has made the outrageous statements you have made then ran when challenged. You have posted lies and distortions that would make the Daily Kos proud
 
LiberalAvenger said:
The awful truth as reported by Rachael Maddow, Rhodes Scholar.

Rachel Maddow Exposes GOP Welfare Queens Who Attacked Obama's Stimulus, Yet Enjoyed Billions in Benefits | | AlterNet
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Now here we go again, more rhetoric and another leftwing individual who has credibility with you posting anti Republican information which diverts from the real issue.

What was the purpose of the stimulus plan and did it work?

We are told that it saved two million jobs but we have lost 4 million jobs since the stimulus and millions have dropped out of the job market. If those saved jobs had been lost the unemployment rate would have increase another half percent, hardly worth 787 billion dollars. Great spin though and fodder for the leftwing loons.
 
If it made hings better than it would have been, it might well have worked. Maybe not as well as hoped, but worked all the same. I know here, where I work, more jobs would have been lost without the stimulus. And they may be lost once that money's gone.
 
Boo Radley said:
If it made hings better than it would have been, it might well have worked. Maybe not as well as hoped, but worked all the same. I know here, where I work, more jobs would have been lost without the stimulus. And they may be lost once that money's gone.
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Nice spin, so it saved 2 million jobs and according to you that is worth approving 787 billion in stimulus? Would you have been that happy if Bush had gotten the same results? This whole saved job cr.p is just that. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

There is no way of measuring saved jobs and as I pointed out subtract another 2 million jobs from the employment number and see what affect that has on unemployment?

This is nothing more than spinning a poor situation and trying to make it look better when the reality is the so called job saved is minor compared to the money spent. The govt. could have and should have given out that entire amount in tax cuts and the benefits would have been greater for all Americans.
 
Conservative said:
Now here we go again, more rhetoric and another leftwing individual who has credibility with you posting anti Republican information which diverts from the real issue.

What was the purpose of the stimulus plan and did it work?

We are told that it saved two million jobs but we have lost 4 million jobs since the stimulus and millions have dropped out of the job market. If those saved jobs had been lost the unemployment rate would have increase another half percent, hardly worth 787 billion dollars. Great spin though and fodder for the leftwing loons.
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The stimulus plan saved the world from a major depression. I am not happy with the big ceo bonuses, though.

The stimulus plan was passed with bipartisan support.

We are talking about obama, here. Maddow just pointed out some of his wing nut enemies.
 
LiberalAvenger;1058554826]The stimulus plan saved the world from a major depression. I am not happy with the big ceo bonuses, though.
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How do you know that? Same reason you know that Reagan took money from the poor with his tax cuts for the rich?:rofl

You want so badly to believe what the leftwing tells you that you don't care much about your credibility.

The stimulus plan was passed with bipartisan support.
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:rofl Is this a joke? If so millions of Americans who have lost their jobs since the so called stimulus plan passed with only three Republican votes, one of which is a now turned Democrat making it hardly bipartisan aren't experiencing that utopian feeling that you apparently have.
 
Conservative said:
How do you know that? Same reason you know that Reagan took money from the poor with his tax cuts for the rich?:rofl

You want so badly to believe what the leftwing tells you that you don't care much about your credibility.



:rofl Is this a joke? If so millions of Americans who have lost their jobs since the so called stimulus plan passed with only three Republican votes, one of which is a now turned Democrat making it hardly bipartisan aren't experiencing that utopian feeling that you apparently have.
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It would not have passed without those few republican votes in the new congress of minority party obstructionism.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
It would not have passed without those few republican votes in the new congress of minority party obstructionism.
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Two Republicans along with a former Republican signing onto a bill does not make it bipartisan nor does that make it right. The results say differently but results don't matter to an ideologue
 
Conservative said:
Two Republicans along with a former Republican signing onto a bill does not make it bipartisan nor does that make it right. The results say differently but results don't matter to an ideologue
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Where did you learn math?
 
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