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Obama State of the Union

His agenda is contrary to the very foundation upon which this country was built and he is taking this country far left. Is that the direction you want this country to go and if so why?

If he succeeds this country will be changed forever and no longer be the economic and world power that it has been. I don't call that success.

I asked you a question as to what accomplishment he has achieved in his first year in office that has made things better for the country and you didn't answer. Why is it so hard to admit that you were wrong?

It's all about the distribution of wealth. We can not allow the current situation where a tiny percentage has all of the wealth. It's time for a level playing field, ehich I believe Obama will provide.

The workers have been paying all of their wages into the payroll tax, while the rich have a cut off rate that needs raised.

I say this because the SS fund has been robbed for years and put into the general fund. The only thing left will be a pile of iou's.
 
It's all about the distribution of wealth. We can not allow the current situation where a tiny percentage has all of the wealth. It's time for a level playing field, ehich I believe Obama will provide.

The workers have been paying all of their wages into the payroll tax, while the rich have a cut off rate that needs raised.

I say this because the SS fund has been robbed for years and put into the general fund. The only thing left will be a pile of iou's.

Why not? What prevented you from becoming the same people that you seem to hate today? I don't care how rich you get so why are you concerned about how rich someone else is?

You are right about SS being robbed for years but why should the Rich who will never need that supplement pay for the retirement of others. The problem is the robbing of the SS fund, not the cut off of high income workers. Again too many ignore the robbing of SS fund.
 
If he succeeds this country will be changed forever and no longer be the economic and world power that it has been.

It was no longer the economic and world power it had been before he walked in the WH door. That is what we are trying to clean up.

I asked you a question as to what accomplishment he has achieved in his first year in office that has made things better for the country......

Here are just a few:

"There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression."

"few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter."
Obama is having the best first year of any president since Franklin Roosevelt. - By Jacob Weisberg - Slate Magazine

"The Obama White House cleared an important hurdle in the health care reform debate when it appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system."

"Maligned for its handling of the financial and banking crises, the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials."

"Perhaps the most significant of steps was to allocate $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems. One high-ranking Hill aide called battery technology "the next big frontier" in the automotive world, adding that if the U.S. could dominate this market it would reclaim its perch as the world's premier car manufacturer."

"More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence."

"Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been at once remarkable and under-appreciated. From the first interview with Al Arabiya to his Nowruz address to the Iranian people, to his proclamation that "American is not at war with Islam" during an appearance in Turkey, seasoned observers have been routinely impressed. "Through these [statements and interviews]," said one Democratic foreign policy hand, "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region."
Obama's First 100 Days: 10 Achievements You Didn't Know About

"The first bill signed into law by Obama was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, relaxing the statute of limitations for equal-pay lawsuits.[110] Five days later, he signed the reauthorization of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to cover an additional 4 million children currently uninsured.[111]

In March 2009, Obama reversed a Bush-era policy which had limited funding of embryonic stem cell research to only a small number of lines. Obama stated that he believed "sound science and moral values...are not inconsistent" and pledged to develop "strict guidelines" on the research.[112]

Sonia Sotomayor, nominated by Obama on May 26, 2009 to replace retiring Associate Justice David Souter, was confirmed on August 6, 2009,[113] becoming the first Hispanic to be a Supreme Court Justice."

"On February 27, Obama declared that combat operations would end in Iraq within 18 months. His remarks were made to a group of Marines preparing for deployment to Afghanistan. Obama said, "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama]Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

"Obama was able to achieve some significant cuts to wasteful spending -- most notably, the elimination of the F-22 fighter jet program after he successfully lobbied the Senate to vote to strip out financing for more jets from a defense funding authorization bill. The Washington Times reported on January 14 that Obama won "60 percent of his proposed cuts" and also managed "to get Congress to ax several programs that had bedeviled President George W. Bush for years."

On May 21, 2009, Obama signed into law a bill providing what USA Today called the "most sweeping changes to the credit card industry in 40 years," adding restrictions on interest rate increases and fees and restricting the marketing of credit cards to college students."

"On April 21, 2009, Obama signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, which expands the scope of AmeriCorps and provides opportunities for young people and senior citizens to join in service programs."

"The Washington Post reported that moves by the Obama administration to improve government transparency "included a ban on lobbyist gifts; restrictions on the hiring of lobbyists; publication of White House visitor logs and other records; and a move to bar lobbyists from serving on advisory boards." A report by Common Cause, Democracy 21, the League of Women Voters, and U.S. PIRG stated that: "The cumulative effect of the Administration's actions has been to adopt the strongest and most comprehensive lobbying, ethics and transparency rules and policies ever established by an Administration to govern its own activities."

"On May 9, 2009, Obama signed an executive order easing restrictions on the use of federal money for embryonic stem cell research."
Media ignore Obama's accomplishments to claim he has "little to show for '09" | Media Matters for America

"# Increased gas mileage standards for cars and light trucks 40 percent, from today's 25 mpg to 35 mpg by 2016. The announcement in May came as part of Washington's bailout of Detroit.

# Blocked Bush administration rules to open the California coast and 77 federal sites near Utah's Arches and Canyonlands national parks to new oil and gas drilling.

# Begun a process in December in which the Environmental Protection Agency will, for the first time, restrict the amount of greenhouse gases industry can release.

# Signed a bill in March establishing 2.1 million new acres of federally protected wilderness, the largest wilderness bill since President Bill Clinton signed the Desert Protection Act in 1994. The bill bans logging, mining and road-building on federal forests and deserts in nine states, including portions of Joshua Tree and Sequoia national parks and ancient bristlecone pine forests in the eastern Sierra.

# Announced tougher new national smog standards from the EPA this month.

# Reversed Bush administration rules allowing more snowmobiles in Yellowstone and fewer federal agency reviews of endangered species.

# Issued EPA rules requiring large U.S. ships to cut soot emissions by 85 percent."
Obama's first year: On environment, big changes but little notice - San Jose Mercury News
 
[QUOTE said:
Catawba;1058565978]It was no longer the economic and world power it had been before he walked in the WH door. That is what we are trying to clean up.

What you have a problem understanding is he was part of the problem, not the solution and we are seeing that today. How has he made things better?

Here are just a few:

"There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression."

What evidence? Prove it! The bank bailout out was Bush's. The Stimulus added another 4 million jobs to the unemployment roles.

"few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter."
Obama is having the best first year of any president since Franklin Roosevelt. - By Jacob Weisberg - Slate Magazine

Economic growth due to growth in govt. spending and inventory growth, not private sector jobs. Who pays for that economic growth?

"The Obama White House cleared an important hurdle in the health care reform debate when it appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system."

Great, then he proposed a 2.5 trillion dollar healthcare program. Is 2.5 trillion more or less than 19 billion?

"Maligned for its handling of the financial and banking crises, the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials."

Wow, so we are going to send all these kids to college to compete for jobs that do not exist. Why do you buy Obama rhetoric without thinking of the consequences?

"Perhaps the most significant of steps was to allocate $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems. One high-ranking Hill aide called battery technology "the next big frontier" in the automotive world, adding that if the U.S. could dominate this market it would reclaim its perch as the world's premier car manufacturer."

How many jobs did this create? You apparently think all these green jobs come without consequences. Let me know when those jobs begin

"More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence."

Great, how many jobs did that create? More govt. pork without benefits.

"Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been at once remarkable and under-appreciated. From the first interview with Al Arabiya to his Nowruz address to the Iranian people, to his proclamation that "American is not at war with Islam" during an appearance in Turkey, seasoned observers have been routinely impressed. "Through these [statements and interviews]," said one Democratic foreign policy hand, "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region
Obama's First 100 Days: 10 Achievements You Didn't Know About."

So North Korea and Iran are now under control? More rhetoric that seems to excite you but where is the substance?

"The first bill signed into law by Obama was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, relaxing the statute of limitations for equal-pay lawsuits.[110] Five days later, he signed the reauthorization of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to cover an additional 4 million children currently uninsured.[111]

Do you realize what you are supporting here? Think about this and how it affects the economy?

In March 2009, Obama reversed a Bush-era policy which had limited funding of embryonic stem cell research to only a small number of lines. Obama stated that he believed "sound science and moral values...are not inconsistent" and pledged to develop "strict guidelines" on the research.[112]

You really have a distorted view as to the role of the Federal Govt.

Sonia Sotomayor, nominated by Obama on May 26, 2009 to replace retiring Associate Justice David Souter, was confirmed on August 6, 2009,[113] becoming the first Hispanic to be a Supreme Court Justice."

How does that affect the economy and national security?

"On February 27, Obama declared that combat operations would end in Iraq within 18 months. His remarks were made to a group of Marines preparing for deployment to Afghanistan. Obama said, "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."
Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds like the Bush doctrine

"Obama was able to achieve some significant cuts to wasteful spending -- most notably, the elimination of the F-22 fighter jet program after he successfully lobbied the Senate to vote to strip out financing for more jets from a defense funding authorization bill. The Washington Times reported on January 14 that Obama won "60 percent of his proposed cuts" and also managed "to get Congress to ax several programs that had bedeviled President George W. Bush for years."

So the deficit is down? Why are you buying this rhetoric? Obama will add trillions to the debt and will pass Bush debt in two years.

On May 21, 2009, Obama signed into law a bill providing what USA Today called the "most sweeping changes to the credit card industry in 40 years," adding restrictions on interest rate increases and fees and restricting the marketing of credit cards to college students."

Again, does personal responsibility exist in your world? People taking credit pay the price for that credit, not the taxpayers.

"On April 21, 2009, Obama signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, which expands the scope of AmeriCorps and provides opportunities for young people and senior citizens to join in service programs."

How has that created jobs and reversed the economic decline?

"The Washington Post reported that moves by the Obama administration to improve government transparency "included a ban on lobbyist gifts; restrictions on the hiring of lobbyists; publication of White House visitor logs and other records; and a move to bar lobbyists from serving on advisory boards." A report by Common Cause, Democracy 21, the League of Women Voters, and U.S. PIRG stated that: "The cumulative effect of the Administration's actions has been to adopt the strongest and most comprehensive lobbying, ethics and transparency rules and policies ever established by an Administration to govern its own activities."

So there aren't lobbyists in the Obama Administration? Better rethink that one.

"On May 9, 2009, Obama signed an executive order easing restrictions on the use of federal money for embryonic stem cell research."
Media ignore Obama's accomplishments to claim he has "little to show for '09" | Media Matters for America

Is that the role of the Federal Govt.?

"# Increased gas mileage standards for cars and light trucks 40 percent, from today's 25 mpg to 35 mpg by 2016. The announcement in May came as part of Washington's bailout of Detroit.

How does that affect employment and the economy now? Do you even know the purpose of a stimulus plan?

# Blocked Bush administration rules to open the California coast and 77 federal sites near Utah's Arches and Canyonlands national parks to new oil and gas drilling.

We certainly don't want to drill on our own property now do we?

# Begun a process in December in which the Environmental Protection Agency will, for the first time, restrict the amount of greenhouse gases industry can release.

Great job creation program, LOL

# Signed a bill in March establishing 2.1 million new acres of federally protected wilderness, the largest wilderness bill since President Bill Clinton signed the Desert Protection Act in 1994. The bill bans logging, mining and road-building on federal forests and deserts in nine states, including portions of Joshua Tree and Sequoia national parks and ancient bristlecone pine forests in the eastern Sierra.

Another incredible job creation program, :rofl

# Announced tougher new national smog standards from the EPA this month.

Another incredible job creation program, :rofl

# Reversed Bush administration rules allowing more snowmobiles in Yellowstone and fewer federal agency reviews of endangered species.

Let me know when those endangered species start paying U.S. income taxes?

# Issued EPA rules requiring large U.S. ships to cut soot emissions by 85 percent."
Obama's first year: On environment, big changes but little notice - San Jose Mercury News

Brilliant job creation program:rofl

I am absolutely convinced that you haven't a clue as to the role of the Federal govt. as everything you have posted here is a vast expansion, taken right off some leftwing website, and destroys the very foundation upon which this country was built. If you support all this then you are part of the problem not part of the solution.

Nothing Obama has done has created one private sector job according to Evan Bayh today and nothing Obama has done supports the private sector economy.

I am really sorry that people like you buy what you are told without thinking of the consequences. Who pays for all this? Where are the jobs?

4 million jobs lost since January 2009

1.47 trillion deficit last year, 1.6 trillion this year on the first Obama budget, and 1.3 trillion next year. Those numbers alone along with the lack of jobs make everything you posted above nothing but partisan bs rhetoric from a leftwing socialist who has never held a real job and shows his true colors in trying to destroy the economy of this nation.
 
It was no longer the economic and world power it had been before he walked in the WH door. That is what we are trying to clean up.



Here are just a few:

"There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression."

"few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter."
Obama is having the best first year of any president since Franklin Roosevelt. - By Jacob Weisberg - Slate Magazine

"The Obama White House cleared an important hurdle in the health care reform debate when it appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system."

"Maligned for its handling of the financial and banking crises, the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials."

"Perhaps the most significant of steps was to allocate $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems. One high-ranking Hill aide called battery technology "the next big frontier" in the automotive world, adding that if the U.S. could dominate this market it would reclaim its perch as the world's premier car manufacturer."

"More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence."

"Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been at once remarkable and under-appreciated. From the first interview with Al Arabiya to his Nowruz address to the Iranian people, to his proclamation that "American is not at war with Islam" during an appearance in Turkey, seasoned observers have been routinely impressed. "Through these [statements and interviews]," said one Democratic foreign policy hand, "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region."
Obama's First 100 Days: 10 Achievements You Didn't Know About

"The first bill signed into law by Obama was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, relaxing the statute of limitations for equal-pay lawsuits.[110] Five days later, he signed the reauthorization of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to cover an additional 4 million children currently uninsured.[111]

In March 2009, Obama reversed a Bush-era policy which had limited funding of embryonic stem cell research to only a small number of lines. Obama stated that he believed "sound science and moral values...are not inconsistent" and pledged to develop "strict guidelines" on the research.[112]

Sonia Sotomayor, nominated by Obama on May 26, 2009 to replace retiring Associate Justice David Souter, was confirmed on August 6, 2009,[113] becoming the first Hispanic to be a Supreme Court Justice."

"On February 27, Obama declared that combat operations would end in Iraq within 18 months. His remarks were made to a group of Marines preparing for deployment to Afghanistan. Obama said, "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."
Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Obama was able to achieve some significant cuts to wasteful spending -- most notably, the elimination of the F-22 fighter jet program after he successfully lobbied the Senate to vote to strip out financing for more jets from a defense funding authorization bill. The Washington Times reported on January 14 that Obama won "60 percent of his proposed cuts" and also managed "to get Congress to ax several programs that had bedeviled President George W. Bush for years."

On May 21, 2009, Obama signed into law a bill providing what USA Today called the "most sweeping changes to the credit card industry in 40 years," adding restrictions on interest rate increases and fees and restricting the marketing of credit cards to college students."

"On April 21, 2009, Obama signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, which expands the scope of AmeriCorps and provides opportunities for young people and senior citizens to join in service programs."

"The Washington Post reported that moves by the Obama administration to improve government transparency "included a ban on lobbyist gifts; restrictions on the hiring of lobbyists; publication of White House visitor logs and other records; and a move to bar lobbyists from serving on advisory boards." A report by Common Cause, Democracy 21, the League of Women Voters, and U.S. PIRG stated that: "The cumulative effect of the Administration's actions has been to adopt the strongest and most comprehensive lobbying, ethics and transparency rules and policies ever established by an Administration to govern its own activities."

"On May 9, 2009, Obama signed an executive order easing restrictions on the use of federal money for embryonic stem cell research."
Media ignore Obama's accomplishments to claim he has "little to show for '09" | Media Matters for America

"# Increased gas mileage standards for cars and light trucks 40 percent, from today's 25 mpg to 35 mpg by 2016. The announcement in May came as part of Washington's bailout of Detroit.

# Blocked Bush administration rules to open the California coast and 77 federal sites near Utah's Arches and Canyonlands national parks to new oil and gas drilling.

# Begun a process in December in which the Environmental Protection Agency will, for the first time, restrict the amount of greenhouse gases industry can release.

# Signed a bill in March establishing 2.1 million new acres of federally protected wilderness, the largest wilderness bill since President Bill Clinton signed the Desert Protection Act in 1994. The bill bans logging, mining and road-building on federal forests and deserts in nine states, including portions of Joshua Tree and Sequoia national parks and ancient bristlecone pine forests in the eastern Sierra.

# Announced tougher new national smog standards from the EPA this month.

# Reversed Bush administration rules allowing more snowmobiles in Yellowstone and fewer federal agency reviews of endangered species.

# Issued EPA rules requiring large U.S. ships to cut soot emissions by 85 percent."
Obama's first year: On environment, big changes but little notice - San Jose Mercury News

Gateway Pundit

In December the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 1.1 million jobs.
In January the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 2 million jobs.
Too bad for Obama that Americans aren’t buying his “saved or created” nonsense.

Just 6% of Americans believe the $787 “stimulus” boondoggle created any jobs according to a recent New York Times/CBS poll.
 
Gateway Pundit

In December the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 1.1 million jobs.
In January the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 2 million jobs.
Too bad for Obama that Americans aren’t buying his “saved or created” nonsense.

Just 6% of Americans believe the $787 “stimulus” boondoggle created any jobs according to a recent New York Times/CBS poll.

We now know someone in that 6%
 
What you have a problem understanding is he was part of the problem, not the solution and we are seeing that today.

That is what you are seeing today! It all depends on one's priorities, and thus one's perspective. Different strokes for different folks!

Just 6% of Americans believe the $787 “stimulus” boondoggle created any jobs according to a recent New York Times/CBS poll.

"The U.S. economy is beginning to show signs of improvement, with many economists asserting the worst is past and data pointing to stronger-than-expected growth. On Tuesday, data showed manufacturing grew in August for the first time in more than a year. "There's a method to the madness. We're getting out of this," said Brian Bethune, chief U.S. financial economist at IHS Global Insight."
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com
 
QUOTE]Catawba;1058566080]That is what you are seeing today! It all depends on one's priorities, and thus one's perspective. Different strokes for different folks![/QUOTE]

Look, what is the purpose of Congress then if it has nothing to do with the running of this country? Just think of how much we could save by eliminating them?

"The U.S. economy is beginning to show signs of improvement, with many economists asserting the worst is past and data pointing to stronger-than-expected growth. On Tuesday, data showed manufacturing grew in August for the first time in more than a year. "There's a method to the madness. We're getting out of this," said Brian Bethune, chief U.S. financial economist at IHS Global Insight."
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com

Do you realize that what you posted is dated August of last year? The economic growth last quarter was tied entirely to inventory growth and not consumer activity. We have a consumer generated economy, not a govt. created economy and yet that is what is growing.

I know how badly you want to believe what Obama is telling you but all he is doing is making you look foolish. Have you no pride and would allow the govt. to make you look and sound foolish?

Obama needs to learn this is a private sector economy, not a public sector economy. You pay taxes that fund the public sector and choose how to spend your dollars in the private sector. Think you can afford the cost of that public sector that Obama is creating?
 
Looks to me like Obama is leading the Democratic Party over the cliff in November. The empty suit in the WH is showing the lack of leadership skills everyone that read his resume knew about but many of his supporters are finally waking up to.

He has yet to keep a major campaign promise showing that he said what it took to get elected but now that he is in office is doing what he wants to do, back room deals, no transparency, moving this country to the far left, and spending us into bankruptcy.

Do they have a course at a local Junior College in Texas that teaches one the proper use of a quote button. :mrgreen:
 
Look, what is the purpose of Congress then if it has nothing to do with the running of this country? Just think of how much we could save by eliminating them?

Congress, together with the president are doing what we elected them to do. It is called a representative government.
 
Congress, together with the president are doing what we elected them to do. It is called a representative government.

Apparently not, since Bush created all the problems in 2008 according to you, problems that Obama is cleaning up. Why is it we have three equal branches of govt. now but didn't have them in 2007-2008?

Obama was in the Senate in 2007-2008 thus was part of the problem.
 
That is what you are seeing today! It all depends on one's priorities, and thus one's perspective. Different strokes for different folks!



"The U.S. economy is beginning to show signs of improvement, with many economists asserting the worst is past and data pointing to stronger-than-expected growth. On Tuesday, data showed manufacturing grew in August for the first time in more than a year. "There's a method to the madness. We're getting out of this," said Brian Bethune, chief U.S. financial economist at IHS Global Insight."
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com

From your link. Notice it says appear to help. What evidence is there we would be in worse shape without Obama's out of control spending?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125185379218478087.html

Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.

A load operator at Auto Parts Plus in Stafford, Va., crushes a car last week that was traded in during the 'cash for clunkers' program.

But there's little agreement about which programs are having the biggest impact. Some economists argue that efforts such as the Federal Reserve's aggressive buying of Treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities, as well as government efforts to shore up banks, are providing a bigger boost than the administration's $787 billion stimulus package.

Opinion, however, remains split about which program has had the biggest impact. "I don't think the stimulus was necessarily as effective as people claimed it to be or claim it will be," said Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist with Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. He credits the government's "stress tests" of banks, which helped boost confidence on Wall Street and allow banks to raise capital and resume lending.

Economists say other programs are having an impact, including an $8,000 tax credit for first-time home-buyers that has spurred home sales. The cash-for-clunkers program, which provided financial incentives for consumers to trade in older vehicles, did the same for cars.
 
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Apparently not, since Bush created all the problems in 2008 according to you, problems that Obama is cleaning up. Why is it we have three equal branches of govt. now but didn't have them in 2007-2008?

Obama was in the Senate in 2007-2008 thus was part of the problem.

Where did I say all the problems have been created in 2008? The problems started back with Reagan slashing taxes for the top income brackets, while simultaneously increasing military spending. Bush continued by further cutting taxes to the most wealthy and doubled military spending, in addition to the expense of two unfunded wars, all done before 2007.

Before Reagan we had 30 years where the debt never increased as a percentage of the GDP.
 
Where did I say all the problems have been created in 2008? The problems started back with Reagan slashing taxes for the top income brackets, while simultaneously increasing military spending. Bush continued by further cutting taxes to the most wealthy and doubled military spending, in addition to the expense of two unfunded wars, all done before 2007.

Before Reagan we had 30 years where the debt never increased as a percentage of the GDP.

Now there you go again, lying. Reagan tax cuts went to ALL TAXPAYERS but that is beside the point. Reagan wasn't a King and had a Congress that approved those tax cuts. That Congress was led by Tip ONeil a Democrat. Reagan tax cuts not only paid for themselves but also paid for the spending on the military, bea.gov.

What percentage increase in the debt is Obama generating? How are we going to pay for the Obama debt?
 
From your link. Notice it says appear to help.
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com

I agree.
What evidence is there we would be in worse shape without Obama's out of control spending?

That our economy has improved in just one year from one of the worst recessions in decades.

"Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.

But there's little agreement about which programs are having the biggest impact. Some economists argue that efforts such as the Federal Reserve's aggressive buying of Treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities, as well as government efforts to shore up banks, are providing a bigger boost than the administration's $787 billion stimulus package."

Opinion, however, remains split about which program has had the biggest impact. "I don't think the stimulus was necessarily as effective as people claimed it to be or claim it will be," said Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist with Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. He credits the government's "stress tests" of banks, which helped boost confidence on Wall Street and allow banks to raise capital and resume lending."


So, some think it was the Obama's stimulus, and some think it was Obama's stress tests for the banks helped the most.

"Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner describes how the government conducted these stress tests. “The Federal Reserve marshaled hundreds of supervisors to spend 45 days rigorously reviewing the banks’ detailed loan data. They applied exacting estimates of potential losses over two years, along with conservative estimates of potential earnings over the same period, and compared them with existing reserves and capital. The results were then evaluated against strict minimum capital standards, in terms of both overall capital and tangible common equity.”
Obama agenda: Stress tests, budget cuts

Back to the previous article:

"Economists say other programs are having an impact, including an $8,000 tax credit for first-time home-buyers that has spurred home sales. The cash-for-clunkers program, which provided financial incentives for consumers to trade in older vehicles, did the same for cars."


All programs by Obama and the Democrats.
 
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com

I agree.


That our economy has improved in just one year from one of the worst recessions in decades.

"Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.

But there's little agreement about which programs are having the biggest impact. Some economists argue that efforts such as the Federal Reserve's aggressive buying of Treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities, as well as government efforts to shore up banks, are providing a bigger boost than the administration's $787 billion stimulus package."

Opinion, however, remains split about which program has had the biggest impact. "I don't think the stimulus was necessarily as effective as people claimed it to be or claim it will be," said Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist with Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. He credits the government's "stress tests" of banks, which helped boost confidence on Wall Street and allow banks to raise capital and resume lending."


So, some think it was the Obama's stimulus, and some think it was Obama's stress tests for the banks helped the most.

"Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner describes how the government conducted these stress tests. “The Federal Reserve marshaled hundreds of supervisors to spend 45 days rigorously reviewing the banks’ detailed loan data. They applied exacting estimates of potential losses over two years, along with conservative estimates of potential earnings over the same period, and compared them with existing reserves and capital. The results were then evaluated against strict minimum capital standards, in terms of both overall capital and tangible common equity.”
Obama agenda: Stress tests, budget cuts

Back to the previous article:

"Economists say other programs are having an impact, including an $8,000 tax credit for first-time home-buyers that has spurred home sales. The cash-for-clunkers program, which provided financial incentives for consumers to trade in older vehicles, did the same for cars."


All programs by Obama and the Democrats.

Amazing how the unprecedented deficit spending is leading to mediocre at best economic results but that doesn't bother you. Is that the way you operate in real life. How are you going to feel when the bills come due?
 
U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus - WSJ.com

I agree.


That our economy has improved in just one year from one of the worst recessions in decades.

"Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.

But there's little agreement about which programs are having the biggest impact. Some economists argue that efforts such as the Federal Reserve's aggressive buying of Treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities, as well as government efforts to shore up banks, are providing a bigger boost than the administration's $787 billion stimulus package."

Opinion, however, remains split about which program has had the biggest impact. "I don't think the stimulus was necessarily as effective as people claimed it to be or claim it will be," said Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist with Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. He credits the government's "stress tests" of banks, which helped boost confidence on Wall Street and allow banks to raise capital and resume lending."


So, some think it was the Obama's stimulus, and some think it was Obama's stress tests for the banks helped the most.

"Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner describes how the government conducted these stress tests. “The Federal Reserve marshaled hundreds of supervisors to spend 45 days rigorously reviewing the banks’ detailed loan data. They applied exacting estimates of potential losses over two years, along with conservative estimates of potential earnings over the same period, and compared them with existing reserves and capital. The results were then evaluated against strict minimum capital standards, in terms of both overall capital and tangible common equity.”
Obama agenda: Stress tests, budget cuts

Back to the previous article:

"Economists say other programs are having an impact, including an $8,000 tax credit for first-time home-buyers that has spurred home sales. The cash-for-clunkers program, which provided financial incentives for consumers to trade in older vehicles, did the same for cars."


All programs by Obama and the Democrats.

You have no proof these programs improved anything.

First sentence of the article it appears. that means it may have happened any way.


Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy APPEAR to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.
 
Amazing how the unprecedented deficit spending is leading to mediocre at best economic results but that doesn't bother you. Is that the way you operate in real life. How are you going to feel when the bills come due?

I had thought it would take this administration years to have made as much of a comeback as we have. According to economist, the time to decrease spending is in boom times, and I don't think we are quite there yet do you?
 
You have no proof these programs improved anything.

I've already provided proof that things have improved, if slightly.

What proof do you have that things have not improved at all?
 
I had thought it would take this administration years to have made as much of a comeback as we have. According to economist, the time to decrease spending is in boom times, and I don't think we are quite there yet do you?

You haven't shown to be very accurate so I wouldn't expect you to be accurate now. Tell us how the economic conditions hurt you or your family since it was "the worst recession in decades" which of course had to affect you.

Have you ever taken a finance class? There was no reason to spend the trillions Obama has committed to get this economy out of the recession. Saul Alinsky claimed that when in crisis just step on the gas and that is what Obama is doing with his spending.

There is NO WAY we can pay back all this spending and keep our economy alive and one promoting capitalism. The tax burden on small business is going to destroy it and when that happens it destroys the economy. Maybe that is your goal but history apparently isn't your strong suit nor is economics. The European Model is a failure, low economic growth, high unemployment, and basic stagnation. Is that really what you want here?

This country isn't a European country and relies on free enterprise and capitalism whereas Europe relies on Govt. Sounds to me like that is what you want here.
 
I've already provided proof that things have improved, if slightly.

What proof do you have that things have not improved at all?

4 million jobs lost, millions dropping out of the labor force, trillions in deficits added to the debt. Net interest on the debt is soon to exceed the Dept. of Defense and we get nothing for it and there is no end in site. States around the nation are bankrupt and things are getting worse. Provide specifics that things are getting better not just words.
 
I've already provided proof that things have improved, if slightly.

What proof do you have that things have not improved at all?

This is "your" President and that economic stimulus plan you are touting as you turn your back on the lost jobs of the other window manufacturers as well as the cronyism that is going on in the "most" transparent Administration in history. This Administration is making Jimmy Carter look good.

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Tell us how the economic conditions hurt you or your family since it was "the worst recession in decades" which of course had to affect you.

Money lost in the market has been considerable as well as decreased business for us. Fortunately, since this administration, I am seeing some improvement. Tell us how the Obama administration has hurt you or your family since he became president?
Have you ever taken a finance class?

Only basic courses, but I have observed what has worked and what has not worked through history.

There was no reason to spend the trillions Obama has committed to get this economy out of the recession. Saul Alinsky claimed that when in crisis just step on the gas and that is what Obama is doing with his spending.

Many economists believe that shutting down all cash flow in a recession is the worst thing you could do. And since their was none in the private sector, that only left the government with the capacity do keep things moving. And the much of the stimulus was targeted to improve our long term needs, in education, alternative energy, and the environment, all of which are critical to our future success as a country.

There is NO WAY we can pay back all this spending and keep our economy alive and one promoting capitalism.

Of the 12.3 trillion dollar debt, Obama has only added 2.6 trillion and most of that went to clean up the mess from the last decade. I will agree however that our 2 unfunded wars, Bush's 1 trillion dollar debt for his unfunded tax cuts, and his 1 trillion dollar unfunded and unworkable prescription card program, really put a hurting in the country, and I did not support them.

The tax burden on small business is going to destroy it and when that happens it destroys the economy. Maybe that is your goal but history apparently isn't your strong suit nor is economics.

Had to slip a little insult in there didn't you! What is it with you and the insults? It has nothing to do with my knowledge or my patriotism. Both of us, I presume, want our country to flourish. We simply have different priorities on how to accomplish that and who we want to be in on the improved status.

The European Model is a failure, low economic growth, high unemployment, and basic stagnation. Is that really what you want here?

No, that is why I've been pleased that under Obama the rate of job losses have slowed from the rate of job losses when Bush left, and economic growth is beginning to recover again.

This country isn't a European country and relies on free enterprise and capitalism whereas Europe relies on Govt. Sounds to me like that is what you want here.

Nope, I have no problem with capitalism, as long as it is properly regulated. The problems came about when the regulations on banks and speculators were gutted in the 90's.
 
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