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Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

Venezuela Rocked By 7.2 Magnitude Rumor! (BoRev.Net)

This seems to have effectively been a complete fabrication. The claim first seems to have been made by a Venezuelan blogger in an anonymous post (made by someone with the username “patria grande”) on a state-owned network’s (Vive TV) website. This is then seized upon by an anti-Chavez Spanish newspaper called ABC (he’s not well-liked among some circles in Spain and is occasionally mocked with anti-Indian epithets), which reports a statement by the government itself, claiming that “The anti-American government of Venezuela, in his usual paranoia against the U.S. empire, says the earthquake in Haiti is ‘clearly the result of a U.S. Navy test’ and stresses that ‘a U.S. experimental earthquake devastated the Caribbean country.’”

This is then grabbed in the U.S. media by Fox News, which claims that the blog post is a “press release” and insinuates that Chavez himself is behind it, noting that “the Venezuelan strongman's state mouthpiece ViVe TV shot out a press release saying the 7.0 magnitude Haiti quake was caused by a U.S. test.” It’s also added that the story was taken down from the network’s website (the reason being that it was a blog post that had no actual endorsement by the network, as was being implied, but that wasn’t reported).

Russia Today then progresses beyond this to a claim that Chavez himself accused the U.S. of having engineered the earthquake, referring to the same ABC story and claiming that “Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the U.S. was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.” ABC never actually quoted anything of the sort because no such statement existed. Regardless, this is then grabbed by various U.S. Internet sources:

OpEdNews - Diary: Hugo Chavez: Haiti Earthquake Caused by U.S. Tectonic Weapon Test

U.S. earthquake weapon used on Haiti says Chavez

Hugo Chavez Blames U.S. For Earthquake In Haiti, Claims “Tectonic Weapon” Was Used [Video Included] Hip-Hop Wired

Venezuelan president: US tectonic weapon caused Haiti quake Boing Boing

Interestingly, this even finds its way to Counterpunch, hardly a right-wing source: http://www.counterpunch.org/kozloff01272010.html

Though again, this can’t be taken as an endorsement by the likes of Alexander Cockburn or senior Counterpunch staff any more than the blog post was an endorsement by the state-owned network.

So this is the equivalent of claiming that a statement was made directly by Gordon Brown because BBC picked up a blog post that was later deleted when it was misrepresented as a piece endorsed by the network itself.

However, the dissemination of anti-Chavez propaganda has an important role in discrediting his complaints about U.S. military buildup in the neighboring country of Colombia (and his claims in general, for that matter), since it could simply be depicted as another one of his laughable conspiracy theories. For example, this is the consequence of its dissemination as a standard talking point among anti-Chavez Internet posters:

The Levite tribe of the hollow Earth did it.

Chavez is a certifiable kook no doubt - but he has some in America who agree with him, at least in part. Cynthia McKinney - remember her? Former Congresswoman of Georgia's 11th district who struck a cop because he dared stop her to ask her who she was and who, since being voted out of Congress, has been doing other kooky things, now writes that the Haiti relief is really an invasion. Kooks of a feather...?

Is this is not proof that Chavez is a babbling imbecile... I don't know what is.

It's time for Chavez to be committed to a lunatic asylum.

On the plus side, this will surely cause apoplexy among the daily kos crowd who took every opportunity to fellate Chavez when he was calling Bush the devil.

Sounds like a plot out of a Dan Brown book, lol

It could also be used as a basis for military action against Venezuela if depicted as a hostile threat. For example, this is used by the likes of Investors.com to claim that,
“Venezuela's Hugo Chavez has gone off the deep end again, claiming the U.S. engineered the Haiti earthquake. It's a laughable malevolence, of course. But given the spectacular U.S. aid effort, it's also a threat.”


The propaganda machine at work.
 
Your right, we should go put Chavez out of business......
The U.S. has a right to that land.....;)
 
Your right, we should go put Chavez out of business......
The U.S. has a right to that land.....;)

Most smart people realize that Chavez and his butt-buddies in Iran are lunatics.
 
Your right, we should go put Chavez out of business......
The U.S. has a right to that land.....;)

Son, no Yankee imperialist has a right over majority-indigenous territory. ;)

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The propaganda machine at work.

I couldn't wrap my head around this and I didn't want to believe anything until I could see a video in spanish of him saying that. Couldn't find one. This isn't the first time this has happened.

Most smart people realize that Chavez and his butt-buddies in Iran are lunatics.

They are actually quite rational in their state actions.
 
My wife of twelve years is from Colombia. I've been there many times and over the past several years I've asked a number of Colombians what they think of Chavez. They consider Chavez to be something like Bozo the clown.
 
My wife of twelve years is from Colombia. I've been there many times and over the past several years I've asked a number of Colombians what they think of Chavez. They consider Chavez to be something like Bozo the clown.

That makes sense.

Now ... they need to band together and remove his dumb ass from office.
 
Venezuela Rocked By 7.2 Magnitude Rumor! (BoRev.Net)

This seems to have effectively been a complete fabrication. The claim first seems to have been made by a Venezuelan blogger in an anonymous post (made by someone with the username “patria grande”) on a state-owned network’s (Vive TV) website. This is then seized upon by an anti-Chavez Spanish newspaper called ABC (he’s not well-liked among some circles in Spain and is occasionally mocked with anti-Indian epithets), which reports a statement by the government itself, claiming that “The anti-American government of Venezuela, in his usual paranoia against the U.S. empire, says the earthquake in Haiti is ‘clearly the result of a U.S. Navy test’ and stresses that ‘a U.S. experimental earthquake devastated the Caribbean country.’”

This is then grabbed in the U.S. media by Fox News, which claims that the blog post is a “press release” and insinuates that Chavez himself is behind it, noting that “the Venezuelan strongman's state mouthpiece ViVe TV shot out a press release saying the 7.0 magnitude Haiti quake was caused by a U.S. test.” It’s also added that the story was taken down from the network’s website (the reason being that it was a blog post that had no actual endorsement by the network, as was being implied, but that wasn’t reported).

Russia Today then progresses beyond this to a claim that Chavez himself accused the U.S. of having engineered the earthquake, referring to the same ABC story and claiming that “Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the U.S. was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.” ABC never actually quoted anything of the sort because no such statement existed. Regardless, this is then grabbed by various U.S. Internet sources:

OpEdNews - Diary: Hugo Chavez: Haiti Earthquake Caused by U.S. Tectonic Weapon Test

U.S. earthquake weapon used on Haiti says Chavez

Hugo Chavez Blames U.S. For Earthquake In Haiti, Claims “Tectonic Weapon” Was Used [Video Included] Hip-Hop Wired

Venezuelan president: US tectonic weapon caused Haiti quake Boing Boing

Interestingly, this even finds its way to Counterpunch, hardly a right-wing source: Nikolas Kozloff: Hugo and the Shockwave

Though again, this can’t be taken as an endorsement by the likes of Alexander Cockburn or senior Counterpunch staff any more than the blog post was an endorsement by the state-owned network.

So this is the equivalent of claiming that a statement was made directly by Gordon Brown because BBC picked up a blog post that was later deleted when it was misrepresented as a piece endorsed by the network itself.

However, the dissemination of anti-Chavez propaganda has an important role in discrediting his complaints about U.S. military buildup in the neighboring country of Colombia (and his claims in general, for that matter), since it could simply be depicted as another one of his laughable conspiracy theories. For example, this is the consequence of its dissemination as a standard talking point among anti-Chavez Internet posters:











It could also be used as a basis for military action against Venezuela if depicted as a hostile threat. For example, this is used by the likes of Investors.com to claim that,
“Venezuela's Hugo Chavez has gone off the deep end again, claiming the U.S. engineered the Haiti earthquake. It's a laughable malevolence, of course. But given the spectacular U.S. aid effort, it's also a threat.”


The propaganda machine at work.


I stand by my original statement.

Chavez is a babbling idiot who needs to be locked in a lunatic asylum.
 
Your right, we should go put Chavez out of business......
The U.S. has a right to that land.....;)

Why? He's doing a better disservice to the word "socialism" than I could in a year of posting detailed explanations of just how flawed of a concept it is :) .

Hell, getting rid of him would be the worst thing for me to do...

The Venezuelan people got what they deserved :) .
 
They are actually quite rational in their state actions.
In terms of gaining and maintain a strangle-hold on power for, what seems to be, an indefinite time, yes. Otherwise, they're screwing their respective countries 5 times over.
 
I didn't realise investing resources in education, healthcare and representation of the poor was evil. Also last I remembered these people were elected and continue to be. Chavez in particular represents the interests of the majority of people in his country. Hes virtually eliminated illiteracy and given millions of people healthcare and raised their quality of live with the Bolivarian missions.

Other than that I regard him as I would most world leaders, mixed.
 
That makes sense.

Now ... they need to band together and remove his dumb ass from office.

Shame that Colombians have no business in Venezuelan affairs, and unlike Venezuelans, have no right to recall the Venezuelan head of state (which has been attempted in the past and failed). Unless you're suggesting that foreign nationals should forcibly remove a democratically elected president.
 
Shame that Colombians have no business in Venezuelan affairs, and unlike Venezuelans, have no right to recall the Venezuelan head of state (which has been attempted in the past and failed). Unless you're suggesting that foreign nationals should forcibly remove a democratically elected president.

He's a dictator my liberal friend.

He's also nuttier than squirell poop.
 
Hes a dictator that gets re-elected in fair and mediated election after election and has the support of the majority of his country. Thats what happens when you have a parasitic bourgeoise government that sucks up to the united states at the expense of the majority. It grows fat, and dies of a heart attack.

As long as the poor are not neglected by his government like they would be under any other he will stay president of venezuela.

also...
The Press Association: Chavez offers olive branch to US

he wants to be nice, see... :)
 
Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and
kingdom against kingdom.
Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in
various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
"great earthquakes" - no, I am not one of those who has the end of the worrld all figured out, together with a complex time frame, but do you remember they had just had an earthquake in Northern California? Worth some thought?
 
Honestly if human interference with tectonic plates doesn't stop, my models are forecasting a dramatic increase in global shaking over the next 100 years. To unprecedented levels of shakiness. The solution is obviously trillions of dollars in taxes, research grants, and new government bureaus. If you think anything else, you're a redneck who hates science.
Very conservative says it all.
And this trash belongs in the basement, better yet, in the sewer pipes.
 
I didn't realise investing resources in education, healthcare and representation of the poor was evil.
No no, nationalizing vast sectors of the economy is not evil, but as I've said, moronic :) .
Also last I remembered these people were elected and continue to be.
And I bet Venezuela is a progressive, modern, liberal and democratic society where opponents are not silenced when they don't toe the government line. Furthermore, there is absolutely no indoctrination of the youth in order to toe the government line:

Education in Venezuela - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chavez in particular represents the interests of the majority of people in his country.
He does? Even in his own questionable elections quite a bit of people were against him and even his own people (who see that they have a cluster**** on their hands) have avidly spoken out against him.
Hes virtually eliminated illiteracy
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ve.html

The factbook says it's 93%, it's far from gone :roll: .
and given millions of people healthcare and raised their quality of live with the Bolivarian missions.
All the while Venezuelan hospitals are underfunded and starved of resources...

Consequently, many of the Cubans assigned to work there have fled, as it doesn't make any sense to sit in a jungle with no infrastructure and try to take care of the sick without an actual hospital.
 
apparently Chavez does not understand the difference between an explosion of an underground weapon and an earthquake in regards to seismographic renderings.

This is the seismograph from IRIS for the Haiti earthquake:

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Now, let us see what it looks more like the 1994 Indian Nuclear weapons test, or an Earthquake?

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apparently Chavez does not understand the difference between an explosion of an underground weapon and an earthquake in regards to seismographic renderings.

This is the seismograph from IRIS for the Haiti earthquake:

httpwwwiris.png



Now, let us see what it looks more like the 1994 Indian Nuclear weapons test, or an Earthquake?

265119334_f19fdf79ed.jpg

No, we're all convinced that Hugo has a few nuts loose. No one is doubting that (well, some will stick to the belief that he's the best thing to happen since sliced bread.)

Apparently the man thinks that Halloween is some sort of an attempt to scare the Venezuelan children.
BBC NEWS | Americas | Chavez calls for ban on Halloween

Yeah... maybe not just loose screws... more like missing whole components :) .
 
He's a dictator my liberal friend.

Which head of state isn't, really?

He's also nuttier than squirell poop.

What the hell? We're not far off from a U.S. president who believed that the world would soon be destroyed in the Great Tribulation, per his evangelical Christianity.
 
Is this is not proof that Chavez is a babbling imbecile... I don't know what is.

It's time for Chavez to be committed to a lunatic asylum.

Nice story, but factually incorrect, I'm afraid. The accusation didn't come from Chavez but from Russia. Chavez may have repeated it, although I've just followed the trail from Spain's right-wing daily, ABC's website and the report they attribute to Chavez, on Venezuela's Vive channel just isn't there. I'm not saying it was never there, but certainly isn't now. ABC is Chavez' No.1 critic in Spain and not famous for it's even-handedness. It wouldn't be the first time they put an anti-Chavez spin on something he's not responaible for.

The original report came from the Russian Northern Fleet after a tour of duty in the Caribbean.

Rather than being smug and superior at the antics of a tin-pot dictator, there should be a bit of concern that the Russian's are beginning to rattle their Cold War swords again.

Unless, of course, the report is true.;)
 
Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and
kingdom against kingdom.
Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in
various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
"great earthquakes" - no, I am not one of those who has the end of the worrld all figured out, together with a complex time frame, but do you remember they had just had an earthquake in Northern California? Worth some thought?

Earthquakes happen all the time.
 
Chavez' ramblings could be explained by his self-admitted, daily use of coca leaves, the derivative of cocaine.

Venezuela's Chavez swaps coffee for coca in speech | World | Reuters

Venezuela's Chavez swaps coffee for coca in speech
Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:49pm GMT
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1 of 1Full SizeCARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez switched from coffee to another stimulant during a speech on Saturday -- he popped a coca leaf into his mouth and chewed it while defending the use of the plant.
Bolivian President Evo Morales, an advocate of the Andean nation's indigenous coca growers, brought Chavez coca leaves while in Caracas for a summit of Latin American leaders allied with Chavez.

"I knew you wouldn't let me down, my friend, I was running out," Chavez said as he received the leaves from Morales during the televised summit. He broke one in half and chewed it, drawing applause.

"Capitalism and international mafias have converted (it) into cocaine, but coca is not cocaine," he said.

Opposition leaders this week said the leftist Chavez, famous for speaking for hours on end, should take a drug test after he told legislators he chews coca to keep his energy level up.

The anti-U.S. leader said this month that every morning he chews "coca paste", a highly addictive substance made from coca leaves that serves as a base for cocaine and is sometimes smoked -- not chewed -- by drug users.

Chavez appeared to have misspoken, meaning instead to say he chews coca leaves.

Indigenous groups in the Andean highlands have for centuries chewed coca leaves to boost energy and ward off hunger.

Before winning the presidency in 2005, Morales helped organize Bolivia's coca farmers and openly opposed U.S.-backed coca eradication efforts. Continued...
 
The amount of actual cocaine in unprocessed coca leaves is marginal and certainly not sufficient to cause the psychoactive effects related to a standard dosage of cocaine. It's curious that caffeine, despite also being a powerful stimulant used by 90% of U.S. adults, is somehow "mainstream" and acceptable while those dirty injun crops that an Aymara like Morales and a mixed-breed like Chavez chew are evidence of their mental instability. :rofl
 
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