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Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

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The Fix - NV-Sen: Harry Reid's Dilemma

Interestingly, according to this article the last time a Senate majority leader got voted out of office was... 1952. By the looks of it though, Reid would need a miracle to stop it from happening again next year.
 
Harry Reid is really not very smart but has no doubt socked away a lot of his ill gotten gains as a corrupt politician to retire on back in that little wide spot on Highway 95 on the way to Sin City which has a population of less than 800. Where the Town leader is chosen because they are the one who has more than one tooth in front.

Okay that's not fair I have actually seen plenty of people there with 4 even 5 teeth in front.

Seriously Reid has trailed in the polls for a very long time and has pissed off the Las Vegas Review Journal and is called out by them on a regular basis. There may be a few Dims (no spell error) who can convince people back home their anti American activities were something they were not but I don't think so. People are slowly coming out of the brain fog condition Obama has had them in and the polls show it. The Liberal tactic of cover the last lie with and even bigger one has just about petered out finally.
 
No they're not worried... Mine, David Scott, will not be making any personal appearances, and his little peeon Hellen Griffin is making sure that no private meetings are scheduled either!



Note to David Scott:

Get your resume in order you scumsucking Lapdog! ;)
 
I have no idea what will happen, or that this issue will be what makes the difference, but let me ask, if no one or very few lose their jobs, what would be the reason for that?
 
The weak-spined Democrats need to worry if they don't stop acting like Republicans and if they don't start doing the things that they were elected to do.
The American people are not happy with the healthcare bill NOT because they don't want Healthcare reform as the party of NO would like to spin this.
They aren't happy with it because of the watering down that people like Lieberman and the other weak Democrats foisted upon them.

One thing is for certain though...the American people understand that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats who act like Republicans....so if the Democrats don't start acting like Democrats...there is no harm in bringing back Republicans that mismanaged this country so badly the last time they were in power.
 
disneydude said:
The weak-spined Democrats need to worry if they don't stop acting like Republicans and if they don't start doing the things that they were elected to do.
The American people are not happy with the healthcare bill NOT because they don't want Healthcare reform as the party of NO would like to spin this.
They aren't happy with it because of the watering down that people like Lieberman and the other weak Democrats foisted upon them.

One thing is for certain though...the American people understand that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats who act like Republicans....so if the Democrats don't start acting like Democrats...there is no harm in bringing back Republicans that mismanaged this country so badly the last time they were in power.
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Yes, that's right, push for a single payer UHC system. Go ahead. See how well the "people" love you then.
 
disneydude said:
there is no harm in bringing back Republicans that mismanaged this country so badly the last time they were in power.
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I disagree.. There WOULD be great harm in doing so...

We conservatives are fully involved and we are taking back the Republican party, so that we can rid our party of progressives and castrate the socialist agenda.... sans anesthesia!

Socialism (progressivism) is STILL the enemy of freedom and liberty and WE are taking the fight to them in 2010!

Pick a side folks .. it's going to be an interesting year in the old US of A! :2wave:
 
MrVicchio said:
Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com

Yeah, the polls just show this to be true... :roll:

I wonder how Reid will feel about the "joy" when he and about a dozen other Senators are unemployed come Nov?
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Do you really think that 11 months from now, 12 senators who supported this will be out a job over this? The economy is going to be the big determinant to who people vote for in 2010. If the economy is improved significantly, dems will do well, it not, then dems won't do well. Health care is not going to be the big issue people vote on.
 
MrVicchio said:
Yes, that's right, push for a single payer UHC system. Go ahead. See how well the "people" love you then.
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Who is saying anything about "single payer"?

While personally I believe that this is the way we need to go, there never was anything about "single payer/UHC" in any of the bills...nor was it ever the subject of much more than a mere mention in any of the debate.
 
Councilman said:
Harry Reid is really not very smart but has no doubt socked away a lot of his ill gotten gains as a corrupt politician to retire on back in that little wide spot on Highway 95 on the way to Sin City which has a population of less than 800. Where the Town leader is chosen because they are the one who has more than one tooth in front.

Okay that's not fair I have actually seen plenty of people there with 4 even 5 teeth in front.

Seriously Reid has trailed in the polls for a very long time and has pissed off the Las Vegas Review Journal and is called out by them on a regular basis. There may be a few Dims (no spell error) who can convince people back home their anti American activities were something they were not but I don't think so. People are slowly coming out of the brain fog condition Obama has had them in and the polls show it. The Liberal tactic of cover the last lie with and even bigger one has just about petered out finally.
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Ah yes, leave it to someone from riverside county to start out by counting the number of teeth someone has in their head; wonder why that is? :rofl
 
Redress said:
Do you really think that 11 months from now, 12 senators who supported this will be out a job over this? The economy is going to be the big determinant to who people vote for in 2010. If the economy is improved significantly, dems will do well, it not, then dems won't do well. Health care is not going to be the big issue people vote on.
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Yes, I think it will be. It's inspired the conservative base, and the harder left your party pushes with such idiocy as Cap and Trade, higher taxes... and let's not forget that there are at least 13 states preparing to file lawsuits challenging this Health Care Bill should it pass.... it'll be in the news come Nov 2010.
 
the makeout hobo said:
Which has nothing to do whatsoever with the actions of any previous congresses or presidents.
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Sure it does, nothing works in a vacuum, you can trace many of the problems all the way back to the 1970's, and in the last 39 years little was done to correct it. As far as voters are concerned precedence means little compared to the present results, considering we as an electorate have very short attention spans. That being said, the majority party is looking to double down on the very things that failed in the 1970's and think either:
1) We will get a different result(the very definition of insanity)
or
2) They think enough of us do not know that their policies are similar and will have the disastrous effect on our current economy they want to hide.
 
Redress said:
Do you really think that 11 months from now, 12 senators who supported this will be out a job over this? The economy is going to be the big determinant to who people vote for in 2010. If the economy is improved significantly, dems will do well, it not, then dems won't do well. Health care is not going to be the big issue people vote on.
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People's memories aren't that short. The health care bill was a very big issue, and most polls which asked the question showed that it affected the way people were going to vote in 2010. The economy will be on people's minds too, but it won't be the sole determinant of the outcome.
 
disneydude said:
The weak-spined Democrats need to worry if they don't stop acting like Republicans and if they don't start doing the things that they were elected to do.
The American people are not happy with the healthcare bill NOT because they don't want Healthcare reform as the party of NO would like to spin this.
They aren't happy with it because of the watering down that people like Lieberman and the other weak Democrats foisted upon them.

One thing is for certain though...the American people understand that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats who act like Republicans....so if the Democrats don't start acting like Democrats...there is no harm in bringing back Republicans that mismanaged this country so badly the last time they were in power.
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No offense but you're showing a profound ignorance of local politics here. The fact is that most of those blue-dog Democrats who "act like Republicans" (which isn't true to begin with, but never mind that) are elected in Republican-leaning districts. If they weren't so moderate, they would fail to be elected and a Republican would win instead. The Democrats need those blue-dogs.

You might be interested in this; Nate Silver calculates the "most valuable" and "least valuable" Democrats to the Democratic Party as a whole:
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: 2009's Most Valuable Democrat Is...
 
MrVicchio said:
Yes, I think it will be. It's inspired the conservative base, and the harder left your party pushes with such idiocy as Cap and Trade, higher taxes... and let's not forget that there are at least 13 states preparing to file lawsuits challenging this Health Care Bill should it pass.... it'll be in the news come Nov 2010.
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But you also have to remember that it is energizing the liberal base as well, in the opposite direction. I really do think it will be a null factor for the most part come November.
 
health care is bigtime in the american gut

it will never go away and never be forgiven

the liberal base is de-energized by it

it has no PO

and they're getting the crap kicked out of em from all political sides over the tons of trouble it contains

like impossible mandates on bankrupt states

10 years of taxes, 6 of benefits

taxing everyone, lower and middle classes included

forcing folks to finagle for themselves that which they can't afford in the first place and fining them if they don't

the secret deal with phrma

the class act

the lack of transparency

the purely partisan personality of its passage

obama's image as open and reaching out ruined forever

the doc fix, the bribes, the cuts that will never come

the DEFICIT, thereby

the POLLS

etc, etc, etc

live it, love it

congrats
 
The Prof said:
health care is bigtime in the american gut

it will never go away and never be forgiven
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I think you're right, and I think in this way: It will be wildly popular, improved upon and expanded upon, and Republican uniform obstruction and opposition will be remembered.
 
Redress said:
But you also have to remember that it is energizing the liberal base as well, in the opposite direction. I really do think it will be a null factor for the most part come November.
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Not true, many liberals are very disappointed with how the bill turned out (including Howard Dean and Keith Olbermann). Plus, the conservative base is about twice as large as the liberal base.

The bill was big enough, important enough, and unpopular enough that it will almost certainly have a huge impact.
 
Dav said:
Not true, many liberals are very disappointed with how the bill turned out (including Howard Dean and Keith Olbermann). Plus, the conservative base is about twice as large as the liberal base.

The bill was big enough, important enough, and unpopular enough that it will almost certainly have a huge impact.
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Not thrilled with the way it turned out due to not being strong enough, and guess who they blame for that. Hint: it's not really the democrats.
 
Redress said:
Not thrilled with the way it turned out due to not being strong enough, and guess who they blame for that. Hint: it's not really the democrats.
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Doesn't change the fact that it in no way "energized" them. In fact, it pretty much did the opposite.

You are also forgetting about independents, who were overwhelmingly against the bill.
 
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